Review R10: The Good, Bad and the Ugly vs. Collingwood

[WeeBlake]

Soligo was quiet early and then prob about best after quarter time.

Dunno about that. It’s been over a month since he had a genuinely good game. Big part of our problems atm.

 

[CrowToon]

Players keep failing in big moments because of the culture and philosophies Nicks has instilled.

It's a systemic cultural issues that stems from the identity and personality of the coach, which is why it affects the vast majority of the playing group

This is just absurd. On par with Port fans telling us Carr manufactures the wins and Hinkley the losses.

By all reports Nicks is a popular coach. We can see the gameday deficiencies but lets not pretend he is making Izak, Josh and Dan miss straightforward shots.

Being a big moment player is something internal and uncoachable.

 

[ABAB]

Bullshit Laird was clearly our best defender 9 intercepts, 4 score involvements 29 disposals at 85.2%, 419 metres gained.

With his bomb kicks???? Hinge won the hard ground balls and launch our attack from defence multiple times.

 

[twiggy4PM]

Good: Convert one of the easy misses in the third and deduct one of the gift Collingwood goals and we win.
Fog and Dawson
Sog after 1/4 time
Hinge

Bad: Our tackling
The way we string three or four good possessions together then butcher the ball
Missing easy goals from set shots
Worrals panic kicking

Ugly:
Umpiring
Gary Lyon
Missing easy goals from set shots
Milera repeatedly hitting Collingwood players lace out on the chest
A lack of mongrel and physicallity.

 

[CrowBloke]

Don’t want to hear any bullshit about sacking Nicks!!!

Bullshit.
SACK NICKS.
The Crows play, decide, and finish like they've been Coached --- BADLY.

 

[Geoffa32]

Players keep failing in big moments because of the culture and philosophies Nicks has instilled.

It's a systemic cultural issues that stems from the identity and personality of the coach, which is why it affects the vast majority of the playing group

Yep mentally weak.

 

[ABAB]

Not enough impact in marking contests, useless around the ground, competes well in the ruck but couldn't tap to a teammate to save his life. On top of all that he's recently developed a habit of trying to take on tacklers and getting involved in handball chains. Just an awful footballer.

The commentators even had a giggle with his fresh air kick.

 

[Redleg Crow]

Christ, the commentary today was a punish.

 

[Scorpus]

This is just absurd. On par with Port fans telling us Carr manufactures the wins and Hinkley the losses.

By all reports Nicks is a popular coach. We can see the gameday deficiencies but lets not pretend he is making Izak, Josh and Dan miss straightforward shots.

Being a big moment player is something internal and uncoachable.

He is not physically making them miss.

He is setting them up to fail so they are more likely to miss

And of course you can coach hardness and resolve in big moments. Absolute nonsense that's an inherent trait

 

[pjcrows]

This is just absurd. On par with Port fans telling us Carr manufactures the wins and Hinkley the losses.

By all reports Nicks is a popular coach. We can see the gameday deficiencies but lets not pretend he is making Izak, Josh and Dan miss straightforward shots.

Being a big moment player is something internal and uncoachable.

You need more than a couple of gettable shots on goal to beat Collingwood at the G. They missed some sitters too.

McRae took our weapons away, used his own weapons, and our coach did nothing. Like always.

And "big moments" can absolutely be taught/cultivated.

 

[feenix67]

Settle down, ROB destroyed Darcy Cameron in the ruck and Laird was clearly our best defender today......Milera however ugh.

Agree on ROB but Hinge was far more impactful than Laird

 

[1990crow]

Loser culture.

 

[Mutineer]

With his bomb kicks???? Hinge won the hard ground balls and launch our attack from defence multiple times.

You're talking out of your ass as usual.

 

[MRB37]

Good: Convert one of the easy misses in the third and deduct one of the gift Collingwood goals and we win.
Fog and Dawson
Sog after 1/4 time
Hinge

Bad: Our tackling
The way we string three or four good possessions together then butcher the ball
Missing easy goals from set shots
Worrals panic kicking

Ugly:
Umpiring
Gary Lyon
Missing easy goals from set shots
Milera repeatedly hitting Collingwood players lace out on the chest
A lack of mongrel and physicallity.

That was what was the most frustrating about the last 10 minutes. Suddenly we were fighting and scrapping like hell when the ball was on the deck in the middle. Wasn't there all game.

 

[Vader]

I thought this game was lost as a result of 5 massive blunders in the 3rd Q, none of which had anything to do with coaching. Four of those blunders were by Adelaide players, the 5th by yet another incompetent umpire. Those blunders were:

• Curtin misses a set shot from 15m out, directly in front - turning a certain goal into a behind.
• Rankine misses a set shot from 25m out, on a 45 degree angle - fails to score completely, kicking the ball OOTF.
• Rankine repeats his previous blunder, from the same spot, with the same result.
• Fogarty gives away a stupid 50m penalty for knocking the ball out of Darcy Cameron
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  Darcy Cameron

  Age

  30

  Ht

  204cm

  Wt

  103kg

  Pos.

  Ruck

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  6.0

  1star

  K

  3.3

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  CL

  0.3

  2star

  HO

  5.3

  5star

  D

  7.5

  2star

  K

  4.5

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  CL

  0.5

  3star

  HO

  3.5

  5star

  D

  6.0

  2star

  K

  3.3

  2star

  HB

  2.7

  3star

  CL

  0.3

  2star

  HO

  5.3

  5star

  's hands, after Cameron marked 60m out on the wing. Instead of kicking to a congested forward line, Cameron had a set shot from the top of the goal square, and kicked the goal.
• Milera executes a perfectly legal handball, which goes directly to a teammate. The umpire (who was caught out of position) guesses incorrectly that it was a throw. McCreery's subsequent free kick lands on the chest of Hoskin-Elliott, who goals after the siren.

Fogarty had a great game up forward, kicking 4 goals, and was easily the game's dominant forward. That doesn't excuse his brain fart, which directly led to Cameron's goal. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug - and he had moments as both in this game.

As for the ugly - the ugliest thing I saw out there today was Adelaide's jumper. It was an incoherent mess, which looked like someone vomited all over the place, and then decided to print said vomit on our away jumper. In contrast, Collingwood's indigenous jumper was understated and clean.

 

[Samcro24]

At least rankines set shots will shoot down the “we’d be top 4 if he got the free vs gc” narrative.

 

[CrowBloke]

Repeatedly losing close ones in the same exact way isn't a good thing, it isn't a sign of being a good side.

It's also a sign that our Coach just does not have what is required to create success.

 

[CrowToon]

He is not physically making them miss.

He is setting them up to fail so they are more likely to miss

And of course you can coach hardness and resolve in big moments. Absolute nonsense that's an inherent trai

I would love you to support your position on those last two points by elaborating.

Because if players are taking set shots I'm not sure what effect he is having. They are getting the shots.

And what is your training regime for big moments? Would love to see the program.

 

[feenix67]

Players keep failing in big moments because of the culture and philosophies Nicks has instilled.

It's a systemic cultural issues that stems from the identity and personality of the coach, which is why it affects the vast majority of the playing group

It's probably deeper than that. We keep picking coaches who assimilate. The last coach we hired that shook the place up was Walsh. The one before that was Malcolm. We are just a conservative organisation.

 

[CrowToon]

You need more than a couple of gettable shots on goal to beat Collingwood at the G. They missed some sitters too.

McRae took our weapons away, used his own weapons, and our coach did nothing. Like always.

And "big moments" can absolutely be taught/cultivated.

I'm happy to debate the tactics on gameday but I'm not prepared to accept Nicks is causing them internal grief to miss.

And on the last point - show me the program.

 

[spenze]

A LOT of our players shat the bed today.

This is the bit that gets me, In high pressure games the same people do this but we don’t move them on.

There is a stench from 2017 that needs to go because it still hangs around the neck of the club that our best is almost good enough.

 

[feenix67]

This is just absurd. On par with Port fans telling us Carr manufactures the wins and Hinkley the losses.

By all reports Nicks is a popular coach. We can see the gameday deficiencies but lets not pretend he is making Izak, Josh and Dan miss straightforward shots.

Being a big moment player is something internal and uncoachable.

Have you ever worked in a workplace where the boss has influenced the mindset of the staff?

 

[Jcpdragonx]

Its all selection. Milera and Berry have not been AFL standard for a long time.

 

[CrowBloke]

I'm at peace with it.

I am not.
I hate it.

 

[Bovo]

If we fail to make finals Nicks is sacked and we take a serious look at our coaching staff and admin. We scrape into finals in the form we’re in now (unconvincingly) then the season is considered a success and we back the same coaching staff.

Wow! You want us to fail just so you can say the coaching staff failed us so we can get rid of them? I’m old school. I want us to win at every game and if that gets us into finals, I’ll take it! I’ve never bought into the sack Nicks hype. It doesn’t interest me one iota