Werewolf Nothing is all you get - vamps overpower all

[dank420_]

Maj for now Nothing

 

[Proper Gander]

What are your reads on both those seered as villagers?

Why oh why do I keep reading?

Both look sus.

Legs asked you to look at Kurve, so presumably thought they were sus.

Dank has done diddly squat all game only to emerge once this Agro possible character came into play - and liked my post about it being a tip-hat ballsy move (if he was responsible or aware of the set-up, this seemed to me a totally Dank thing to do)

 

[dank420_]

Dank has done diddly squat all game only to emerge once this Agro possible character came into play

Well of course. I’ve played too much of this game and something that’s never happened before has occurred.

 

[cats_09]

• Agoraphobe – Chooses a player each Night Phase to hide behind. They will be protected from any kill actions targeting themselves, but if the person they're hiding behind is killed, they will be killed themselves.

If JHF is night immune, he wasn’t going to die, but if targeted by flogs would have some explaining to do (what with other flogs knowing who the target was).

If he was targeted by flogs, and is really the Agoraphobe, he would have been safe behind BEaston, because BE is still alive.

If coached it was a ballsy attempt. Not sure it was Dank anymore though. I need to think about that.

If say Dank was head vampire, and JHF was a recruit (so retained his agoraphobia) that would work out okay. JHF would hide behind Dank, neither would die.

My theories are getting wilder and wilder. I’m a bit hampered because I love the second idea (JHF lying but cooked it up himself) or the third idea (coaching by someone) because it’s so ballsy. Good times!

I need a break and a beer.

If that’s the case, the only way to get to him would be to lynch he or his night immune shield (in this hypothesis, Dank). To me that’s almost a better deal than being night immune himself.

I actually think we’re underestimating how dangerous this role is. Great if still with good, horrible if with evil. And I also don’t think I can effectively check him.

JHF thanks Nothing

PS - where the **** is Pie?

Do we think this is the way to go today - it's definitely a role for which we're all seemingly scratching our heads, so could switching lynch targets help maybe provide some clarity?

 

[por_please_ya]

Isn't JHF a villager though? It's a bit like the Bodyguard and Bus Driver roles. Risky to the village as well as evil.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Isn't JHF a villager though? It's a bit like the Bodyguard and Bus Driver roles. Risky to the village as well as evil.

It’s a village aligned role, but definitely not a villager. Great to have around where there’s no recruitment mechanism…

 

[Proper Gander]

Do we think this is the way to go today - it's definitely a role for which we're all seemingly scratching our heads, so could switching lynch targets help maybe provide some clarity?

I think there is a very narrow pathway to a village win.

There are basically three priorities, arsonist, NI, Agro.

Figuring out arsonist can surely wait until tomorrow if they can’t kill tonight.

Agro is super dangerous if bad, but JHF could actually be for real, and good, but like Tarks points out even if he is good he’s a gorgeous recruit target.

N1 would be a very good lynch, thanks to this arse-o shit we’re lacking certainty on who that is.

I think we have to pick a plan, back ourselves in and if it’s wrong, that’s the way it goes.

And I have a big case of WW fatigue from dreaming up worst case scenarios so I’m hoping someone can wrestle with this a bit and make a suggestion

 

[dank420_]

If JHF is bad, evil need to kill him. If he’s not, they don’t.

 

[DemurePrincess]

Maj has the clear lead on 11 I think? He hasn’t put much resistance up so I’m guessing we have a lynch for tonight sorted.

What’s the plans for over night actions… who are the main targets? Dank? JHF?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I think there is a very narrow pathway to a village win.

There are basically three priorities, arsonist, NI, Agro.

Figuring out arsonist can surely wait until tomorrow if they can’t kill tonight.

Agro is super dangerous if bad, but JHF could actually be for real, and good, but like Tarks points out even if he is good he’s a gorgeous recruit target.

N1 would be a very good lynch, thanks to this arse-o shit we’re lacking certainty on who that is.

I think we have to pick a plan, back ourselves in and if it’s wrong, that’s the way it goes.

And I have a big case of WW fatigue from dreaming up worst case scenarios so I’m hoping someone can wrestle with this a bit and make a suggestion

How about we just get aligned and see what eventuates? I don’t see a bad option between any we’re considering.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Maj has the clear lead on 11 I think? He hasn’t put much resistance up so I’m guessing we have a lynch for tonight sorted.

What’s the plans for over night actions… who are the main targets? Dank? JHF?

Assuming the status quo with the Maj lynch, the vig can confirm one of the two villager results should they think there’s a better than even money chance they they’re evil. Otherwise, they probably should thin the crowd and take a shot on someone that might die overnight.

Actually, writing that, they should probably just take whoever they have the highest conviction of being evil. They should somehow find a way to make it clear what they’ve decided though.

 

[Proper Gander]

Isn't JHF a villager though? It's a bit like the Bodyguard and Bus Driver roles. Risky to the village as well as evil.

Tarks might be right. Even though he may be good or recruited.

If JHF is good he’s a really hard overnight kill target. And if we have Vampires they probably have a recruit up their sleeve. He would be a good choice.

But there is a lynch tomorrow as well as today and all of NI (or hiding) can die today or tomorrow.

Our only chance is to get two blindingly good lynches and cross fingers. We’ve lost our advantage in the unlikely event it gets to final four.

I just don’t know how to move

 

[Proper Gander]

How about we just get aligned and see what eventuates? I don’t see a bad option between any we’re considering.

I see no other option. I would be really really grateful for a suggestion though because I have genuinely hit that WW brain wall.

 

[Proper Gander]

Basically if others agree that we leave the arsonist alone today, we only have one person who is definitely not arsonist.

I’m hoping for feedback on that take

 

[Proper Gander]

Also if there is someone who knows that we have Vamps and not Zombies, and is pretty sure who the head is, and has a block available it might be worth knowing about.

 

[cats_09]

Basically if others agree that we leave the arsonist alone today, we only have one person who is definitely not arsonist.

I’m hoping for feedback on that take

I'm happy to chance that we're right on our reading that Maj is the arsonist who doesn't look likely to be able to kill overnight and then come back to him tomorrow

Do we have consensus on another target for today's lynch?

 

[DemurePrincess]

Can we look at those that haven’t claimed/fake claimed roles??

Kurve seered and claimed villager so could be NI
Eth-dog claimed villager
JHF ****ed up role thing
Headless also claimed villager
Porps claimed villager
Did Dank also claim villager?


BEaston, Gralin, Pie Cats haven’t claimed anything right? So I’m sus on them. I’ve at the point where I totally over thinking and after a days work, I’ve gone down like a sack of shit so may have missed a lot of clues

There has to be a bunch of mafia and recruits hiding amongst that lot

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I see no other option. I would be really really grateful for a suggestion though because I have genuinely hit that WW brain wall.

JHF is the biggest loss to the village, but also presents the biggest opportunity to a recruiting faction.

The other two are more moderate risk. At worst we lynch a villager.

Then we have Maj, who feels very much like the lead arsonist candidate but is otherwise a complete unknown. Probably the lowest risk/reward.

I’m probably inclined to go big but it’s a massive **** up if we botch it.

 

[JHF1870]

There's a double kill on offer tonight if you can read me.

 

[Kurve]

This game.

 

[cats_09]

There's a double kill on offer tonight if you can read me.

 

[Proper Gander]

There's a double kill on offer tonight if you can read me.

There might not be if there is a manipulator in the mix

 

[Proper Gander]

JHF is the biggest loss to the village, but also presents the biggest opportunity to a recruiting faction.

The other two are more moderate risk. At worst we lynch a villager.

Then we have Maj, who feels very much like the lead arsonist candidate but is otherwise a complete unknown. Probably the lowest risk/reward.

I’m probably inclined to go big but it’s a massive **** up if we botch it.

Regardless of whether you are good or bad, I think this might be the only way.

Full Paul Keating - crash through or crash out!

Even if it is the best course for village, village are super doubtful of a win anyway. May as well go for broke.

Just checking… your massive big target is?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

There's a double kill on offer tonight if you can read me.

I think I’m completely misunderstanding what you’re trying to say here. Because if you’re still good I don’t see what benefit that is to us?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Regardless of whether you are good or bad, I think this might be the only way.

Full Paul Keating - crash through or crash out!

Even if it is the best course for village, village are super doubtful of a win anyway. May as well go for broke.

Just checking… your massive big target is?

i think JHF is the go. That last post just doesn’t make sense to me if he’s still good. I just don’t see how the double kill can possibly be perceived as a good outcome for the village, unless he’s talking from the perspective of having already been recruited.