Mega Thread VICBias - Genuine Discussion Part 2

[LoungeLizard]

Most free kick count wins in 2025..

Hawthorn 14
Melbourne 13
Geelong 13
Bulldogs 13
Essendon 12

Brisbane 12
Carlton 11
Sydney 11
Adelaide 11
Collingwood 10
Fremantle 9
Richmond 7
St Kilda 7
Gold Coast 7
West Coast 7
GWS 6
North 4
Port 4

Every thread you enter all you talk about is umpiring decisions.
And you wonder why you get chased out of pubs, you aren't much fun to be around.

Maybe if you try and be funny, just try something different for a change and you might at least get 1 beer down before being chased out.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Every thread you enter all you talk about is umpiring decisions.
And you wonder why you get chased out of pubs, you aren't much fun to be around.

Maybe if you try and be funny, just try something different for a change and you might at least get 1 beer down before being chased out.

Deflection your honor!

 

[Carringbush2010]

Yes, the league manufactured mask of advantage conceals the soft underbelly of Vic clubs now.

 

[SC_Power]

Of course. If VicBias was such a big impact in the home and away, Victoria would have above average amount of teams.

The fact that there is only 3 shows that either a) it's not quite the big deal you've built it up to be in your head or b) the equalisation measures are working to even the comp up.

Do you also believe we were never in a drought because it rained last week?

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Fly post game?

 

[Underarm]

Do you also believe we were never in a drought because it rained last week?

Of course not.

Hence b) equalisation measures are working to even the comp up.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Fly post game?

Wrong thread

 

[Go the Guts]

We just played 3 games in 12 days.

Yes - you played all 3 games at the MCG.

How unsurprising!

And you now have a 4 day longer rest than us after we travel home from Perth on Sunday night/Monday morning.

 

[Chronz]

Yes - you have played all 3 games at the MCG.

How unsurprising!

And you now have a 4 day longer rest than us after we travel home from Perth on Sunday night/Monday morning.

You should finally have a win against us this time, surely. You sound anxious.

 

[demondavey]

Gary Lyon, AFL 360:
"Melbourne won a premiership in adverse condition's away from home"

Round of applause for those brave hero's, imagine winning a premiership away from home...

Gary Lyon is the biggest VFL flog getting about. Listening to him and some other goose just rubbing Carlton off right now.

 

[sr36]

Just a reminder of the clear VFL biased scheduling:


Crows V Collingwood - Next Saturday night.

This is 1 V 2 on the VFL ladder FFS.


Collingwood played last night.

Adelaide play in 2 days' time, at 4.40pm, IN PERTH. Game will finish around 7pm Perth time

So they will not even be back in Adelaide until very late Sunday night or possibly Monday morning.

This effectively gives Collingwood a 3 days extra break before they play us.

What an unbelievable leg up at this critical part of the season?!

#VICBIAS

Pies just went a 6 day break into Brissy followed by a 5 day break into Hawks - so yes having played on Thursday night we now get a longer break.. But hey let's pretend that it's only Non-Vic teams that have to deal with shorter breaks.

 

[sr36]

Deflection your honor!

Teams don't tackle the same amount, mark the same amount or kick and handball the same amount in games, yet you some to have the bizarre theory that every team infringes the same amount in games and if a team gets more frees on the day they've automatically been favoured by the umpires - even if it's just one more free kick. It's just utter nonsense. all anyone can do is deflect as your stats offer zero to engage with.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Pies just went a 6 day break into Brissy followed by a 5 day break into Hawks - so yes having played on Thursday night we now get a longer break.. But hey let's pretend that it's only Non-Vic teams that have to deal with shorter breaks.

Yeah now imagine having those short breaks on the back of 10hr round-trip flights every second week.

 

[sr36]

Yeah now imagine having those short breaks on the back of 10hr round-trip flights every second week.

That's one of the AFL tweaks that WA folk don't want to know about - WA teams have been cut from a max of 2 to a max 1 5 day breaks - none for WCE this year - 2 for Collingwood - one of them in WA. WA teams not leaving the state in preseason matches. Only once to QLD. An away game being sold to the state. There's been a range of tweaks and they'll continue to add them when they can.

But I understand the complaints - at least you actually have a travel disadvantage. SA teams are mid-table in terms of travel and get a bonus home game - yet somehow think the cards are massively stacked against them.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Teams don't tackle the same amount, mark the same amount or kick and handball the same amount in games, yet you some to have the bizarre theory that every team infringes the same amount in games and if a team gets more frees on the day they've automatically been favoured by the umpires - even if it's just one more free kick. It's just utter nonsense. all anyone can do is deflect as your stats offer zero to engage with.

Explain why Vic teams raced out to a +20 advantage in 9 rounds and why its equalised since.

Surely you dont suggest that by sheer coincidence, the stars lined up for the fixturing in the first 9 rounds to advantage, through differing teams ability to draw free kicks, a set of clubs that just happen to reside within borders drawn on a map that signify the state of Victoria?

 

[sr36]

Explain why Vic teams raced out to a +20 advantage in 9 rounds and why its equalised since.

Surely you dont suggest that by sheer coincidence, the stars lined up for the fixturing in the first 9 rounds to advantage, through differing teams ability to draw free kicks, a set of clubs that just happen to reside within borders drawn on a map that signify the state of Victoria?

You actually think your discovery of this and exposing it on bigfooty has resulted in the AFL getting umpires to level it up to hide what they were doing, don't you?

Have you got the umpiring stats for fauna mascots versus non-fauna mascots. 19 out of the last 20 Premierships have been won by #faunabias - with the 8 non-fauna teams only having a solitary flag - and that was in a covid year. Surely you don't think that the outrageous fauna bias is just a sheer coincidence.

 

[carlton_99]

Most free kick count wins in 2025..

Hawthorn 14
Melbourne 13
Geelong 13
Bulldogs 13
Essendon 12

Brisbane 12
Carlton 11
Sydney 11
Adelaide 11
Collingwood 10
Fremantle 9
Richmond 7
St Kilda 7
Gold Coast 7
West Coast 7
GWS 6
North 4
Port 4

Free kick counts are a meaningless statistic. You can win the free kick count and be more negatively impacted by umpiring than the opposition. They are not close to an accurate measure of umpiring quality and/or umpiring bias.

 

[Underarm]

Explain why Vic teams raced out to a +20 advantage in 9 rounds and why its equalised since.

This is why I suggested you go back and look at the Same statistics in previous years. 9 rounds is just not a big enough sample size for anything.

Surely you dont suggest that by sheer coincidence, the stars lined up for the fixturing in the first 9 rounds to advantage, through differing teams ability to draw free kicks, a set of clubs that just happen to reside within borders drawn on a map that signify the state of Victoria?

Far more likely than the afl umpires reading this thread and changing their behaviour.

 

[carlton_99]

Teams don't tackle the same amount, mark the same amount or kick and handball the same amount in games, yet you some to have the bizarre theory that every team infringes the same amount in games and if a team gets more frees on the day they've automatically been favoured by the umpires - even if it's just one more free kick. It's just utter nonsense. all anyone can do is deflect as your stats offer zero to engage with.

This.

 

[sr36]

I just checked the Stats - the Bombers - a non-fauna team - had one more free than the Cats. The Giants had one more than the Kangas. The Saints had two more than the Tigers. Have we had a pendulum swing against the faunas? - Has the bias ended? Is it time to load up on the Suns, Dockers or Giants for the flag?

 

[Go the Guts]

Pies just went a 6 day break into Brissy followed by a 5 day break into Hawks - so yes having played on Thursday night we now get a longer break.. But hey let's pretend that it's only Non-Vic teams that have to deal with shorter breaks.

You missed the main point. Yes, you’re entitled to a break. But not a 3 day extra day advantage. They deliberately scheduled us at 4.40pm Sunday IN PERTH after you played 3 days earlier. An extra day or 2 is added-table, 3 days just isn’t, and add to that an extra half day of travel.

 

[sr36]

You missed the main point. Yes, you’re entitled to a break. But not a 3 day extra day advantage. They deliberately scheduled us at 4.40pm Sunday IN PERTH after you played 3 days earlier. An extra day or 2 is added-table, 3 days just isn’t, and add to that an extra half day of travel.

You missed my point - disadvantages like this occur all season. It's part and parcel of games being spread across 4 days. All teams have their sob stories if they want to look for them and carry on as though it's a conspiracy.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

You actually think your discovery of this and exposing it on bigfooty has resulted in the AFL getting umpires to level it up to hide what they were doing, don't you?

Have you got the umpiring stats for fauna mascots versus non-fauna mascots. 19 out of the last 20 Premierships have been won by #faunabias - with the 8 non-fauna teams only having a solitary flag - and that was in a covid year. Surely you don't think that the outrageous fauna bias is just a sheer coincidence.

No, I dont.

Those fauna masots are spread across the entire length and breadth of the country, the free kick advantage teams reside in Victoria, why?

 

[sr36]

No, I dont.

Those fauna masots are spread across the entire length and breadth of the country, the free kick advantage teams reside in Victoria, why?

But you've just said the free kick advantages thing only lasted 9 rounds before levelling up extremely suspiciosly?

 

[Go the Guts]

You missed my point - disadvantages like this occur all season. It's part and parcel of games being spread across 4 days. All teams have their sob stories if they want to look for them and carry on as though it's a conspiracy.

Unable to actually acknowledge my point that a 3 day extra break isn’t just a regular scheduling disadvantage but actually a massive one? Given that this round was only scheduled very recently, when the ladder was already taking shape? OK.