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What driver at their new team will have the biggest impact in 2025?

  • Lewis Hamilton at Ferrari

    Votes: 7 41.2%
  • Liam Lawson at Red Bull

    Votes: 3 17.6%
  • Kimi Antonelli at Mercedes

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Carlos Sainz Jr. at Williams

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • Someone else...

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .

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There's a genuine argument for it but George has only been good when there's no real Championship pressure. He'd definitely be up there but until he's proven when fighting for a title P2 can go to someone else.

I personally still think it's Alonso but Piastri is probably 2nd to Max right now.
 
There's a genuine argument for it but George has only been good when there's no real Championship pressure. He'd definitely be up there but until he's proven when fighting for a title P2 can go to someone else.

I personally still think it's Alonso but Piastri is probably 2nd to Max right now.
Alonso at 2 still ??

Not sure id have him that high, his best is well behind him.
 

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There's a genuine argument for it but George has only been good when there's no real Championship pressure. He'd definitely be up there but until he's proven when fighting for a title P2 can go to someone else.
Yep, fair enough.
I personally still think it's Alonso
It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case.
but Piastri is probably 2nd to Max right now.
What about the other way around?
 
It’s race week again and it’s the first “wake up real early” race for a while after plenty of “stay up real late” races.

There’s something great about COTA but a year without Ricciardo doing something incredibly American to get some headlines will feel somewhat empty.🤷‍♂️
 
It’s race week again and it’s the first “wake up real early” race for a while after plenty of “stay up real late” races.

There’s something great about COTA but a year without Ricciardo doing something incredibly American to get some headlines will feel somewhat empty.🤷‍♂️
Race is at 8pm (Irish time). **** yes.
 
Not sure if I want to watch F1 for the rest of the season as Oscar is seriously going to get stitched up by his own team.

No doubt they are going to mess around with his cars setup so he is always going to be 3-5, 10 tenths off Lando's pace. Not sure if he has his own engineer in the team that could dictate the cars setup to suit Oscar's preferences.
 
Not sure if I want to watch F1 for the rest of the season as Oscar is seriously going to get stitched up by his own team.

No doubt they are going to mess around with his cars setup so he is always going to be 3-5, 10 tenths off Lando's pace. Not sure if he has his own engineer in the team that could dictate the cars setup to suit Oscar's preferences.
3-5 tenths is a massive discrepancy in current F1 and would have him toward the Q1 exit range so despite there being some definite pro-Lando mentality, that is a very very big stretch to imagine.
 

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3-5 tenths is a massive discrepancy in current F1 and would have him toward the Q1 exit range so despite there being some definite pro-Lando mentality, that is a very very big stretch to imagine.

Its pretty much where Red Bull's number 2 driver has had to face when racing against Verstappen.
 
George looks to have signed something for next year but beyond that remains a mystery.


Damn, would have liked Oscar going to Mercedes next year. This will leave Red Bull (only if Verstappen leaves), Ferrari and my dark horse, Aston Martin (only because of Adrian Newey) as the main championship contenders.
 
I still reckon on balance Max is still the best on the grid. It's hard to argue otherwise
It's hard to argue cos there's a world full of idiots out there. But is Verstappen the best?

A few months back, when there was some waffle about Piastri being like Alain Prost, I thought, "Well, that means they're saying Piastri is the best driver... because Alain Prost is the best racing driver so far. Imagine how the Verstappen fangirls would react if someone said that???"

Anyway, if they were running in the same team, same car that's not suited to either driver and no favouritism from the team, where is Verstappen getting the edge?
 
Anyway, if they were running in the same team, same car that's not suited to either driver and no favouritism from the team, where is Verstappen getting the edge?

I've thought for a long while that Max is the possibly the best driver the sport has ever seen. But there's no metrics for it that we have and after all, how do you compare him to guys like Prost and Senna and Schumacher? Teammates have been able to see where he's faster than them but unable to see how he does it.

I suspect you put him in any car and he's going to make it look better than it is. I suspect that current RBR car is a donkey and he's getting amazing results out of it.

Yes, he's a bit of campaigner on-track, but so were Senna and Schumacher. And he's not exactly the most charismatic off-track and rubs people the wrong way occasionally and his father is a bit of a tool, so people tend to hold those against him when weighing him up against other champions.
 

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Seems Oscar says Lando has said he took responsibility for the Singapore contact and there will be on track repercussions coming forth… he didn’t go any further..

Or it could be an AI Deepfake.
 
I've thought for a long while that Max is the possibly the best driver the sport has ever seen. But there's no metrics for it that we have and after all, how do you compare him to guys like Prost and Senna and Schumacher? Teammates have been able to see where he's faster than them but unable to see how he does it.

I suspect you put him in any car and he's going to make it look better than it is. I suspect that current RBR car is a donkey and he's getting amazing results out of it.

Yes, he's a bit of campaigner on-track, but so were Senna and Schumacher. And he's not exactly the most charismatic off-track and rubs people the wrong way occasionally and his father is a bit of a tool, so people tend to hold those against him when weighing him up against other champions.
Theres a decent list of guys in that list.

Max, the 3 blokes you mentioned, going back youve got Fangio, Stewart and Jim Clark and you've got to include Hamilton in that list just on pure numbers alone.

Personally a guy like Mario Andretti would have to be in the conversation, perhaps not as the F1 GOAT, but that bloke won in everything he sat his backside in, similar to Clark.
 
This is probably the key in all that, how they adapt.

Max is just a freak though, look at what he did in the tin tops a couple of weeks back.
Was it really a big deal for an F1 champ in his pomp? He's drving a car slower than when he's under the safety car.
The other question is, if Max isn't the best on the grid, who is?
Maybe a few weeks away from saying it's OSCAR!

Skullface was right all along!
 
I've thought for a long while that Max is the possibly the best driver the sport has ever seen.
Based on what?
But there's no metrics for it that we have and after all, how do you compare him to guys like Prost and Senna and Schumacher? Teammates have been able to see where he's faster than them but unable to see how he does it.
Boring, boring, dull, monotonous, boring efficiency is king. The flashy stuff may be fun, but making driving a racing car look uninteresting is what the great ones actually do.
 

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