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Autopsy Roast & Toast - Round 2 v Collingwood & changes for GWS Rd 3

Best Players v Collingwood

  • Toby Nankervis

    Votes: 46 20.6%
  • Dion Prestia

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Kane Lambert

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Nathan Broad

    Votes: 51 22.9%
  • David Astbury

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 120 53.8%
  • Nick Vlastuin

    Votes: 66 29.6%
  • Oleg Markov

    Votes: 13 5.8%
  • Jayden Short

    Votes: 31 13.9%
  • Shane Edwards

    Votes: 86 38.6%
  • Trent Cotchin

    Votes: 87 39.0%
  • Kamdyn McIntosh

    Votes: 83 37.2%
  • Daniel Rioli

    Votes: 6 2.7%
  • Dan Butler

    Votes: 3 1.3%
  • Jack Graham

    Votes: 18 8.1%
  • Jack Riewoldt

    Votes: 11 4.9%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 11 4.9%
  • Tom Lynch

    Votes: 93 41.7%
  • Jason Castagna

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Maverick Weller

    Votes: 17 7.6%
  • Jack Higgins

    Votes: 21 9.4%
  • Brandon Ellis

    Votes: 26 11.7%

  • Total voters
    223
  • Poll closed .

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My line up for next week

Short Garthwaite Vlastuin
Astbury Balta Houli
Rioli Townsend McIntosh
Higgins Lynch Prestia
Edwards Moore Baker
Soldo Cotchin Lambert
Nankervis Ross Graham Martin

Ellis and Weller not really good enough. Butler not working hard enough, Costagna a panic merchant, Broad solid but need better. Reiwoldt injured, Grimes suspended. I’d like to persist with Markov more but Houli comes in if ready. In comes 2 key backs for the future, some size and grunt in the middle, someone who gets tap outs, class and speed up forward. Players who will man up. Everything we lacked last night
 
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My line up for next week

Short Garthwaite Vlastuin
Astbury Balta Houli
Rioli Townsend McIntosh
Higgins Lynch Prestia
Edwards Moore Baker
Soldo Cotchin Lambert
Nankervis Ross Graham Martin

Ellis and Weller not really good enough. Butler not working hard enough, Costagna a panic merchant, Broad solid but need better. Reiwoldt injured, Grimes suspended. I’d like to persist with Markov more but Houli comes in if ready
Broad dropped no way were you watching the same game I was watching last night? He was one of few that actually tried.
Agree with everyone else.
 
We now need Balta in Defense, Ruck and up Forward? Caddy and Houli are 2 weeks away, Markov can go straight back to the VFL. Anyone know if Moore or Towner are ready as replacements for Jack? Garths now got to cover for both Rance and Grimes and the 2nd Ruck situation is still a disaster.... But I'm not panicking :eek::eek::eek:
 

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Ultimately we are paying for years of poor recruiting and list mgmt by fj and bh , fortunately we seem to have improved that area the last 2-3 years. Problem being most of those players are still young and inexperienced and not ready to make a major impact yet.
Wasting first round picks on Lennon and cellis and of course the Yarran debacle has ****** us right up.

Having said that I find it hard to believe their aren’t some young players advanced enough to be getting games ahead of guys like Weller and an underdone George..
Poor recruiting, our seniors and reserves have barely lost a game in last 2y what rot are u talkin , we haven’t had many injuries to now so haven’t needed replacements in a top of table side until now
We have got emerging talent that we should see get a Chance now that ops have opened up . Wait and see
 
George must not be dropped

Did West coke melt this bad after losing to Brisbane last week?
Lol why not George?
I don’t get too fussed about who should come in and go out but I wouldn’t lose any sleep if he got the arse.
 
F Butler Martin Higgins
Rioli Lynch Balta
Edwards Lambert Prestia
Ellis* Vlaustin KMc
Broad Astbury Short
Foll Nankervis Cotchin Graham
I Castagna RCD Ross Weller
Houli* replaces if fit
out Grimes Markov Riewoldt
 
Lol why not George?
I don’t get too fussed about who should come in and go out but I wouldn’t lose any sleep if he got the arse.

the other 4 or 5 similar players were trash last night compared to George and he wasn't that great so that's saying a lot. He's the only one trying to play like we did in 2017 the rest are just being lazy campaigners now, and he only just came back in so deserves a chance
 

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Dimma just playing the long game tactically .... like we did versus Adelaide 2017. Let’s not show our hand this early in the season. We have injuries and we should try mix things up to understand what we need to be firing when it counts.
You give him too much credit
 
Looking ahead... even though we have road trips ourselves, both of our next two opponents will be coming off longer travel than us.

GWS play West Coast in Perth tomorrow and Port play Brisbane at the Gabba next week.

Obviously if we dish that up again it won't make any difference
 
the other 4 or 5 similar players were trash last night compared to George and he wasn't that great so that's saying a lot. He's the only one trying to play like we did in 2017 the rest are just being lazy campaigners now, and he only just came back in so deserves a chance

And therein lies the problem. As I said last week, it's not 2017 and it was a damn long time ag. The game has evolved again.
If we play like 2017 we lose - the rest of the league is onto that.
It's part of the problem, blokes like Butler, Castagna, Graham, Broad, Nankervis were unknowns in '17. They don't fly under the radar anymore and teams pay them attention. They need to evovle.
It was a great time but forget 2017 - the rest of the league has and is prepared for us. We're an open book.
 
There’s a couple of ways dimma can play this, he can be all sentimental and allow a handful of players that show all the signs having peaked have a mortgage on their spots or he can turn them over and freshen the team up using the talent from a very good vfl team. This weeks a dead set danger game , we got the game to win it
 
There’s a couple of ways dimma can play this, he can be all sentimental and allow a handful of players that show all the signs having peaked have a mortgage on their spots or he can turn them over and freshen the team up using the talent from a very good vfl team. This weeks a dead set danger game , we got the game to win it

he should do what he’s best at and copy clarko. little al would turn the list over on the run with little sentimentality.

but dimma is a conservative old woman
 
Looking ahead... even though we have road trips ourselves, both of our next two opponents will be coming off longer travel than us.

GWS play West Coast in Perth tomorrow and Port play Brisbane at the Gabba next week.

Obviously if we dish that up again it won't make any difference
haha giants off the rebound

we're gonna get flogged
 

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Funny how the wheel turns.
Reckon Towner might get another go and perhaps in a different role who knows due entirely once again a pressing need for something he does better than others.
Our lack of tackling and physicality has been alarming.
 
And therein lies the problem. As I said last week, it's not 2017 and it was a damn long time ag. The game has evolved again.
If we play like 2017 we lose - the rest of the league is onto that.
It's part of the problem, blokes like Butler, Castagna, Graham, Broad, Nankervis were unknowns in '17. They don't fly under the radar anymore and teams pay them attention. They need to evovle.
It was a great time but forget 2017 - the rest of the league has and is prepared for us. We're an open book.

The 2017 game plan could certainly still hold up and get us easy wins, but we haven't even tried to play that way for about 10 or 11 games now
 
Funny how the wheel turns.
Reckon Towner might get another go and perhaps in a different role who knows due entirely once again a pressing need for something he does better than others.
Our lack of tackling and physicality has been alarming.

Could play Caddy’s role. Jack replaced by lynch. Three smalls. Dusty rotating through... nostalgia ;)
 

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