List Mgmt. NGA, Father son watch

[Mutineer]

Dudley has been disappointing. Promised so much 2-3 years ago.

I think that's mostly down to Isaiah himself if reports are to believed that his "preparation" hadn't improved despite efforts and plenty of advice from his mentors....recruiters would be aware of that without doubt.

 

[Mego Red]

I think that's mostly down to Isaiah himself if reports are to believed that his "preparation" hadn't improved despite efforts and plenty of advice from his mentors....recruiters would be aware of that without doubt.

Yeah, it was openly said by the SA coach on the Herald Sun podcast.

 

[Caputo]

Mutineer asks Why?

I believe the Crows have been half-hearted IRT to Father/Son and NGA players. Let us use our SANFL Team for trying to increase our draft eligible players. Imagine if Dudley finds maturity in the ashes of not being drafted and has a great preseason. Having them in the SANFL program may give Crows coaches and recruiters a greater understanding of the players. Training at AFC may give a greater insight into what is required to succeed than at CDFC and NAFC. I feel our commitment to the NGA should last into the next year post Draft. Dogs have done that with Raak. It is still a free hit for us. This may even help with this years NGA players coming through. For minimal investment it may payoff.

 

[BRL121]

I think that's mostly down to Isaiah himself if reports are to believed that his "preparation" hadn't improved despite efforts and plenty of advice from his mentors....recruiters would be aware of that without doubt.

Yes. He has an amazing paunch for someone so young.

 

[Mutineer]

Mutineer asks Why?

I believe the Crows have been half-hearted IRT to Father/Son and NGA players. Let us use our SANFL Team for trying to increase our draft eligible players. Imagine if Dudley finds maturity in the ashes of not being drafted and has a great preseason. Having them in the SANFL program may give Crows coaches and recruiters a greater understanding of the players. Training at AFC may give a greater insight into what is required to succeed than at CDFC and NAFC. I feel our commitment to the NGA should last into the next year post Draft. Dogs have done that with Raak. It is still a free hit for us. This may even help with this years NGA players coming through. For minimal investment it may payoff.

I disagree, the reality is very few have been good enough to even consider as rookies and it's telling the interest from other AFL clubs even after we've passed on them has been virtually non existent in their draft year. Both Dudley and O'Loughlin have not only been members of our NGA Academy they've both been in the SANFL's elite program from as far back as U16's or earlier. They've had as much or even more opportunity than other SA lads coming through the SANFL system.

If they're good enough they now have the opportunity to go back to their SANFL clubs, work hard and they'll get noticed by AFL clubs the same as any other lads passed over in their draft year and get a shot at a later date much the same as Leek Aleer this season.

 

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

SANFL site claiming Max Michalanney is aligned to Crows for his old man playing 200 games for Norwood up untill 1986 is this correct? Also is he any good Mutineer ?

 

[radiojake]

SANFL site claiming Max Michalanney is aligned to Crows for his old man playing 200 games for Norwood up untill 1986 is this correct? Also is he any good Mutineer ?

I thought the 200 SANFL games for F/S ended ?

 

[Dirty Bird]

I thought the 200 SANFL games for F/S ended ?

Under the original rule this was the case,
West Coast's would've expired in 2006, Adelaide 2010, Fremantle 2014, Port Adelaide 2016.
However, this was changed to allow any child of the aligned clubs to be a f/s player on the condition the 200 games (150 for the Perth clubs) were played before the team joined the AFL.

This is why Borlase could come to us as NGA. Darryl didn't play his 200 games before 1997. (I think he got to 199 - ouch)

 

[1990crow]

Under the original rule this was the case,
West Coast's would've expired in 2006, Adelaide 2010, Fremantle 2014, Port Adelaide 2016.
However, this was changed to allow any child of the aligned clubs to be a f/s player on the condition the 200 games (150 for the Perth clubs) were played before the team joined the AFL.

This is why Borlase could come to us as NGA. Darryl didn't play his 200 games before 1997. (I think he got to 199 - ouch)

Interesting. One Phantom draft for next year has him as a first round prospect.

 

[Mego Red]

SANFL site claiming Max Michalanney is aligned to Crows for his old man playing 200 games for Norwood up untill 1986 is this correct? Also is he any good Mutineer ?

There's been some discussion about Max for a while, but the worry was we'd ultimately miss out like we did with Bryce Gibbs.

 

[Big Dub]

On topic over at the SANFL website:

2022 SANFL U18 Talent Hub - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

a pair of Crows Next Generation prospects in Isaac Keeler and Max Michalanney are expected to feature next season.

Tall Roosters’ forward Keeler is tied to Adelaide through its indigenous NGA while Michalanney qualifies as a father-son after his dad Jim, a premiership player with Norwood, played 211 games for the Redlegs from 1974 to 1986.

(not sure if they have done the escort cup analysis)

 

[Josh Jenkins #1Fan]

On topic over at the SANFL website:

2022 SANFL U18 Talent Hub - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

a pair of Crows Next Generation prospects in Isaac Keeler and Max Michalanney are expected to feature next season.

Tall Roosters’ forward Keeler is tied to Adelaide through its indigenous NGA while Michalanney qualifies as a father-son after his dad Jim, a premiership player with Norwood, played 211 games for the Redlegs from 1974 to 1986.

(not sure if they have done the escort cup analysis)

We are taking him haha

 

[1990crow]

We are taking him haha

Listed as 192. Would likely want to grow an extra 2-3cm to be a KPD at AFL level.

 

[GrommoT]

Under the original rule this was the case,
West Coast's would've expired in 2006, Adelaide 2010, Fremantle 2014, Port Adelaide 2016.
However, this was changed to allow any child of the aligned clubs to be a f/s player on the condition the 200 games (150 for the Perth clubs) were played before the team joined the AFL.

This is why Borlase could come to us as NGA. Darryl didn't play his 200 games before 1997. (I think he got to 199 - ouch)

The Crows also have father-son rights over players with 200 or more games at SANFL clubs Norwood, Glenelg, Sturt and South Adelaide, provided those games were in a 20-year period between 1970 and 1990, before the Crows entered the AFL in 1991. [www.afl.com.au - May 9, 2018]

[australianfootball.com]

 

[BigSchlong9]

Max Michalanney recently won the U-17 MVP for SANFL talent program.

 

[1990crow]

Could be a big win for us. Plenty of options to get later picks for points, and get another top draftee or trade for a star on top of Max.

 

[Cap]

I thought the rules made FS pointless for good players?

 

[Mutineer]

Wouldn't get to excited about Max M, I recall someone inquiring into his eligibility last year and they were pretty certain he wasn't eligible.

 

[Mutineer]

I thought the rules made FS pointless for good players?

???

NGA rules don't carry over to F/S.

 

[1990crow]

Wouldn't get to excited about Max M, I recall someone inquiring into his eligibility last year and they were pretty certain he wasn't eligible.

Rules state he should be though

 

[Scorpus]

Between 1980 and 1986, Jim Michalanney could only have played a maximum of 7 games for Norwood in the night series, because that's the total number of games Norwood played

So unless there were other games included in his total career tally that would bring him under the 200 mark, he should be eligible (or his eligibility wouldn't be ruled out by Escort Cup/night series alone)

 

[GrommoT]

Wouldn't get to excited about Max M, I recall someone inquiring into his eligibility last year and they were pretty certain he wasn't eligible.

RATS!!!

Has been discussed in another thread. Looks like another Bryce Gibbs scenario, where his old man got to 200+, but the total includes Escort Cup games. Without the night games included, his total appears to fall short of the magic 200 mark, making him ineligible.

 

[Scorpus]

However the other element to consider were the NFL Night Series between 1976 and 1979 which Norwood played 13 games

So he could have played in a total of 20 non-SANFL games for Norwood, and he missed the entire 1980 season with injury, so 19 games total

 

[Cap]

???

NGA rules don't carry over to F/S.

Ahh sorry I thought the changes applied to both.

Carry on!

 

[Mutineer]

Rules state he should be though

BronCrow