List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Thread - Picks 31, 32, 42, 60 and 71

[Ticky009]

 

[Ticky009]

When? What if he stays?

Nothing is certain.

 

[Neverwas]

That’s why we got Serong and Carmichael should play very early by the way. Kyle could too. Not as convinced on King as most

None of them ( the Academy kids) are likely to have an impact until at least their second year.

 

[ErrolisGoldun]

What am I missing? Most people seemed comfortable with Pick 11, 2026 1st, and Hayward for Curnow and pick 42.

In addition to this we do a slide of our 2027 1st to Carlton's 2027 2nd and get pick 31 this year too. It guarantees we can get our academy kids. Now everyone is throwing the toys out of the cot?

Not everyone I would say 2/3 are happy and the 1/3 who are not are very vocal.

It’s actually not as bad a deal as some are making out.

It’s like Geelongs offer of 3 x 1st rounders, most likely be in the 20’s, should be similar with us. Sounds like more than what it is.

Also covers academy players this draft

 

[LukeParkerno1]

None of them are likely to have an impact until at least their second year.

No reason Carmichael can’t have a Mills year in year 1. Kyle could too. King can easily replace Hayward at least positionally

 

[Jeffers]

The other possible thing that happened with 2 well liked clubmen in Ollie and Wilbur going is that might be the fire starter the team needed to get going after having their hangover season.
Expect Career best seasons from a lot of them next year. Or they'll be dealt the same treatment.
Time to get serious now.

 

[Donza]

Not sure any of them have factored in a possible claw back when Warner leaves.

Why would he leave?

If no one else has noticed. Players aren't going to clubs at the bottom of the league. Players want success
Regardless of where they are located.

Overwhelmingly the move was out of Melbourne to GWS, Sydney, GC etc.

I'd have a punt and say this was the biggest trade period for established players, relative to their value. Leaving Melbourne for interstate.

 

[RilesMacca]

Excited to watch Charlie in action. We've been crying out for a capable marking outlet down the line and in the forward half, big need ticked. His field kicking is a thing of beauty as well.

Chips in move so overall I have mixed emotions. Can't help but think do we have it in us to dial in a flag. Question marks on a handful of unproven players. Doubts on our small forward group, relative to the past premiers it's a big weakness. Mentally we really dropped away this year as well as our biggest strength of elite ball movement, which became way too inconsistent even when we had our best available.

I like to think were in this holding pattern of just needing to wait for things to galvanise. Perhaps players like Rosas or Serong become revelations like Jordon did last season and become key contributors towards another tilt. Maybe we start to turn the screws of stronger cohesion and better contest, pressure and defence work from what Cox has instilled into the group with now his second year at the helm.

Feel like the 24 GF really sucked the gumption out of everyone associated with the club hence the season we had. Landing a big fish like Curnow might play a part to get this group up and about for 2026 but more has got to give with this list if were any chance for a flag IMO.

 

[SSwans2011]

I hope so.

But same token could completely implode and be pick 2, 4, 6 or 8.

Our rocketing up the ladder or being finalists is not the fait accompli that everyone on the board seems to think (although I am also of the opinion we should be top 8 minimum with the list)

Big risk/big reward

Could have a form slump
Curnow could redo his knee
Heeney could have another foot injury
Mills and Gulden could have a wrestle
Cox's plan may not translate

All can do is watch and see how it goes

Agreed, it's not a fait accompli that we return to finals. But we're one year removed from a GF appearance and we still have most of the key players that got us there to begin with. We already add a fit Mills to that (looked much better this year than last, can't wait to see how he goes next year if he survives pre-season). We should still be thinking big in the near future.

Fair chance with their injury history both Heeney and Mills will retire in the next 5 years. Grundy, Papley, Cunningham and Melican too. That's the window that we should be aiming to win a flag within. Towards the end of it it would be logical to start being more concerned about where future picks may end up.

 

[Neverwas]

No reason Carmichael can’t have a Mills year in year 1. Kyle could too. King can easily replace Hayward at least positionally

Carmichael has all of the tools except for exceptional running ability. He may find that a great challenge in the big league.

 

[mpalzzcc]

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Wow! That was quick!

 

[dosser]

I'm prepared to say that even if we crash and burn next season i will still support the club for trying to improve by taking outrageous chances. I'm not a gambler by nature, but we had to do something.

 

[Jeffers]

 

[Bonz]

They already have him in a Swans Guersey lol.

They would have gotten him doing shoots yesterday when on site

 

[ashep]

Respectfully we've gone from a tall setup in the back half of the year of Buller, McLean and Ladhams to Curnow, McDonald and Amartey.

If (yes, a big if) we have 2024 health, that's transformational.

 

[dosser]

He needs to learn their names.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Essendon wasn’t asking for much. Yikes

 

[MrSwans]

All this concern for the team giving too much for Curnow.

I'd say consider a power forward like Curnow plus the likelihood of these guys getting on the park more often than they did this year:

Logan McDonald
Harry Cunningham
Callum Mills

14

Callum Mills

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.8

4star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

287.0

4star

D

18.4

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.4

4star

MG

293.4

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.6

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

284.4

5star

Tom Papley

11

Tom Papley

Age

29

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.3

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

3.4

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.4

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.6

5star

Errol Gulden
Joel Amartey

If our luck with injuries turns then watch us come again!

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

A few reflections:

1. I reckon this is the first draft where teams stopped overvaluing draft picks (enabling trading of future future picks didn’t hurt) and clubs and players let each other know that they are willing to enforce their contracts.

2. I’m happy with our drafting overall. I think most on here earlier this year would have said that we should target a KPF, defender and a small forward - while thinning our outside stock. The only thing missing was the dynamic midfielder. The price from Carlton was high but fair for Curnow. I wish Hayward and Florent all the best - both great fellas who gave their all.

3. I’m also delighted that Geelong missed their targets and that Essendon and Hawthorn had a Barney over Merrett.

 

[ashep]

The streets won't forget when Caro was making the whole thing up.

 

[Donza]

Respectfully we've gone from a tall setup in the back half of the year of Buller, McLean and Ladhams to Curnow, McDonald and Amartey.

If (yes, a big if) we have 2024 health, that's transformational.

I'm not against playing Logan in the backline. Sam Reid style.

 

[Dan87]

he seems genuinely pumped to be the next big blockbuster forward at Sydney

 

[Donza]

The streets won't forget when Caro was making the whole thing up.

Mike Skinner?

 

[catchem02]

Can’t believe we threw away the future of the club to one player absolutely rubbish and I just hope all those who are responsible for this disaster are held accountable when in 28/29 we have not had any elite talent come through the doors and we sit on the bottom asking for hand outs . Individually haywood was worth atop 15 pick and I know Florent was a salary dump but was a 30 ish pick so essentially without all the sliding picks 9/ 14/14/haywood 15 / Florent 33 and this all could go either way for the good or bad and to top it off we never fixed the main problem the midfield and some bigger bodies in there . Total bullshit and why the f… is pav still reading the news should have left all commitments after grand final day ?

 

[caesar88]

he seems genuinely pumped to be the next big blockbuster forward at Sydney

For some reason the media kept emphasising that Geelong was his preferred destination, like that made it any less enticing for us. What a humiliation to be a star player's second choice out of literally seventeen other clubs, behind only his home town club.

 

[ashep]

he seems genuinely pumped to be the next big blockbuster forward at Sydney

"But we're his second choice"