Bigman’s Training Reports (Update: 25th Feb)

[Daniel6]

If that’s a genuine question then he performed a perfectly legitimate hip and shoulder to the side of a Carlton (I think) player. Didn’t hit him high or late.

Player developed delayed concussion and Wines got a 3 match ban

It was a genuine question. I couldn’t remember. Some days I cannot remember what I had for breakfast.

But thank you.

 

[FR0GGY]

Seriously who?

someone was, can’t remember who, would probably have to be a Murphy lover.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Has Sholl had a line put through his name?

The only experienced player not to be listed in the 29 man squad for tomorrow

 

[FR0GGY]

Has Sholl had a line put through his name?

The only experienced player not to be listed in the 29 man squad for tomorrow

Felt that line went through a year or so ago, not sure what he’s still doing on the list?
Maybe his name only shows up under blue light?

 

[cmndstab]

Some were comparing ANBs output to that of Lachlan Murphy last season. So I suppose he's next in line by that metric!

All three of ANB, Cummings and Peatling got rubbished at times last year by some posters here, presumably for the crime of not being another Dawson or Rankine.

People will always find a whipping boy.

 

[Daniel6]

Felt that line went through a year or so ago, not sure what he’s still doing on the list?
Maybe his name only shows up under blue light?

I agree, a line has gone through his name but I think he has been kept around due to his contract and no other club wants him.

If they are going to pay him, he may as well help the reserves. Don’t give him money for free.

 

[spenze]

someone was, can’t remember who, would probably have to be a Murphy lover.

Cromulant then, think he said he was related

 

[NSolis]

Personally? I’m not, issue is you think it applies to anyone

You really think nobody makes excessively negative predictions as a way of protecting their feelings, or catering to negativity bias?

How many times in a given year do you think people post on here that a given season is over after a random loss?

Fair enough if you don't think you or any other specific poster does it but it's amazing to me that anyone could read this board and not think 'season's over' posts are a form of coping with disappointment.

 

[George CantStandYa]

You really think nobody makes excessively negative predictions as a way of protecting their feelings, or catering to negativity bias?

How many times in a given year do you think people post on here that a given season is over after a random loss?

Fair enough if you don't think you or any other specific poster does it but it's amazing to me that anyone could read this board and not think 'season's over' posts are a form of coping with disappointment.

Yes, I believe negative predictions have nothing to do with protecting their feelings, it’s one of the biggest load of wanks I’ve read on here and not surprised by who is sprouting it or agreeing with it.

First off, what many of the “positive” posters on here classify as “negative” is just their sensitivities not coping with any criticism of their beloved club and its employees. The “negative” posters are the posters closer to reality than those living in Mary Poppins land where all will be good with positive thinking.

Take last year for example. I was shouted down, sent abusive PMs by a “respected” positive poster who has since fled. Why? Because I identified concerns with some of our wins, that they were papering over cracks and we have a coach who is prone to idiotic decisions. The result? The worst finals performances practically ever. Now was I negative? Nah, just realistic.

This is a football club and it’s a results industry and our club over a number of years has been a shit show and without success for nearly 30 years. It’s reasonable for posters to be sceptical and call out shit when they see it, that’s not being negative.

As for being concerned about where our season might end up after a run of injuries, that’s a reasonable position given only 2 years ago the club and the positive posters on here, used injuries as an excuse.

Given we’ve made one finals under Nicks, those calling season after a loss, have been more right than not, do you disagree? So how is accurately calling an outcome a bad thing?

So no, I don’t buy into the bullshit any “negative” posters are “negative” so they don’t get their feelings hurt.

 

[skam85]

Something something ate all the pies something something

I thought he had a fling with Ken

 

[Peter Doherty]

First off, what many of the “positive” posters on here classify as “negative” is just their sensitivities not coping with any criticism of their beloved club and its employees. The “negative” posters are the posters closer to reality than those living in Mary Poppins land where all will be good with positive thinking.

I suspected you thought something like this. It's why my view riles you up so much.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Yes, I believe negative predictions have nothing to do with protecting their feelings, it’s one of the biggest load of wanks I’ve read on here and not surprised by who is sprouting it or agreeing with it.

First off, what many of the “positive” posters on here classify as “negative” is just their sensitivities not coping with any criticism of their beloved club and its employees. The “negative” posters are the posters closer to reality than those living in Mary Poppins land where all will be good with positive thinking.

Take last year for example. I was shouted down, sent abusive PMs by a “respected” positive poster who has since fled. Why? Because I identified concerns with some of our wins, that they were papering over cracks and we have a coach who is prone to idiotic decisions. The result? The worst finals performances practically ever. Now was I negative? Nah, just realistic.

This is a football club and it’s a results industry and our club over a number of years has been a shit show and without success for nearly 30 years. It’s reasonable for posters to be sceptical and call out shit when they see it, that’s not being negative.

As for being concerned about where our season might end up after a run of injuries, that’s a reasonable position given only 2 years ago the club and the positive posters on here, used injuries as an excuse.

Given we’ve made one finals under Nicks, those calling season after a loss, have been more right than not, do you disagree? So how is accurately calling an outcome a bad thing?

So no, I don’t buy into the bullshit any “negative” posters are “negative” so they don’t get their feelings hurt.

I don't really think it's worth engaging at this length with patronising tripe is it?

If only you were emotionally intelligent enough to uncritically back in a long term failed club who delivered the worst finals performance of all time then militantly rejected improvement over the off season.

 

[George CantStandYa]

I suspected you thought something like this. It's why my view riles you up so much.

If you hadn’t noticed, I call out bullshit opinions all the time, so nice try

 

[Peter Doherty]

If you hadn’t noticed, I call out bullshit opinions all the time, so nice try

This one seems to have hit a nerve.

 

[George CantStandYa]

This one seems to have hit a nerve.

Yep, the whole negative v positive posters isn’t something that I’ve called out before.

Sucks on here shit me big time, that’s no secret.

Why don’t you actually address some of the points in my post and what was inaccurate based on facts.

 

[Huntercrow]

We need more bigman.

This thread gets nasty when you’re not here. I know you said 2 weeks but……..

Are we there yet!
Are we there yet!
Are we there yet!…………etc.

 

[LongPause]

Yes, I believe negative predictions have nothing to do with protecting their feelings, it’s one of the biggest load of wanks I’ve read on here and not surprised by who is sprouting it or agreeing with it.

First off, what many of the “positive” posters on here classify as “negative” is just their sensitivities not coping with any criticism of their beloved club and its employees. The “negative” posters are the posters closer to reality than those living in Mary Poppins land where all will be good with positive thinking.

Take last year for example. I was shouted down, sent abusive PMs by a “respected” positive poster who has since fled. Why? Because I identified concerns with some of our wins, that they were papering over cracks and we have a coach who is prone to idiotic decisions. The result? The worst finals performances practically ever. Now was I negative? Nah, just realistic.

Well said.
I think theres a specific term for what you are describing here, it being a form of tone trolling. They rarely provide a rebuttal to criticisms but are very eager to police the tone of the message by calling out "negativity" as some kind of stock standard retort. Add that to the lexicon

 

[Peter Doherty]

Yep, the whole negative v positive posters isn’t something that I’ve argued against before.

Sucks on here shit me big time, that’s no secret.

For what it's worth, I don't even really think of you as doing what I described. The idea of being associated / aligned with that sort of behaviour, this is what got to you.

 

[NSolis]

Yes, I believe negative predictions have nothing to do with protecting their feelings, it’s one of the biggest load of wanks I’ve read on here and not surprised by who is sprouting it or agreeing with it.

First off, what many of the “positive” posters on here classify as “negative” is just their sensitivities not coping with any criticism of their beloved club and its employees. The “negative” posters are the posters closer to reality than those living in Mary Poppins land where all will be good with positive thinking.

Take last year for example. I was shouted down, sent abusive PMs by a “respected” positive poster who has since fled. Why? Because I identified concerns with some of our wins, that they were papering over cracks and we have a coach who is prone to idiotic decisions. The result? The worst finals performances practically ever. Now was I negative? Nah, just realistic.

This is a football club and it’s a results industry and our club over a number of years has been a shit show and without success for nearly 30 years. It’s reasonable for posters to be sceptical and call out shit when they see it, that’s not being negative.

As for being concerned about where our season might end up after a run of injuries, that’s a reasonable position given only 2 years ago the club and the positive posters on here, used injuries as an excuse.

Given we’ve made one finals under Nicks, those calling season after a loss, have been more right than not, do you disagree? So how is accurately calling an outcome a bad thing?

So no, I don’t buy into the bullshit any “negative” posters are “negative” so they don’t get their feelings hurt.

I'm not really talking about 'negative' vs 'positive' posters. It's more that defensive pessimism is a pretty common human coping mechanism, even in environments where the common consensus position doesn't trend towards negativity. I've seen people on here directly state that they assume the worst to protect themselves from disappointment, and that's excluding people who also engage in that behaviour but don't explicitly acknowledge it or aren't aware. You've never seen someone say something like that they don't want to get their hopes up because they've been burned before? Or make a sweeping declaration that the season is over at 0-2 and it's time to focus on next year?

Anyway if you really don't think it happens more power to you I guess. One of the more astonishing claims I've read.

edit: just to be clear I'm not accusing you of this, I just think it's a pretty normal way to manage disappointment and is common among sports fans in general.

 

[1970crow]

I suspected you thought something like this. It's why my view riles you up so much.

Are you saying that West Coast supporters who predict their team will have a crap year are doing so as a form of pre-coping?

 

[Peter Doherty]

Are you saying that West Coast supporters who predict their team will have a crap year are doing so as a form of pre-coping?

The 'pre-coping' would be more common where the supporter feels an emotional risk, where a certain level of expectation exists. With already low expectations for WC, the need to emotionally 'hedge' would be lower. It's not to say they wouldn't have their own things going on.

 

[ftmch]

If you hadn’t noticed, I call out opinions all the time, so nice try

Fixed that for you

 

[AFC979810]

If you hadn’t noticed, I call out bullshit opinions all the time, so nice try

How come Kane doesn't tell you to calm down? You must be lucky I guess.

 

[George CantStandYa]

For what it's worth, I don't even really think of you as doing what I described. The idea of being associated / aligned with that sort of behaviour, this is what got to you.

You know your attempts to psycho analyse is cringe don’t you?

 

[George CantStandYa]

I'm not really talking about 'negative' vs 'positive' posters. It's more that defensive pessimism is a pretty common human coping mechanism, even in environments where the common consensus position doesn't trend towards negativity. I've seen people on here directly state that they assume the worst to protect themselves from disappointment, and that's excluding people who also engage in that behaviour but don't explicitly acknowledge it or aren't aware. You've never seen someone say something like that they don't want to get their hopes up because they've been burned before? Or make a sweeping declaration that the season is over at 0-2 and it's time to focus on next year?

Anyway if you really don't think it happens more power to you I guess. One of the more astonishing claims I've read.

edit: just to be clear I'm not accusing you of this, I just think it's a pretty normal way to manage disappointment and is common among sports fans in general.

You see when you make comments like this you should back it up. Who has said they assume the worst to protect themselves and spare their feelings?