2012 Draft Discussion

[jackess]

It's an interesting one. He looks like he'd be a great pickup at 24 if he lasts that long. Similar to Redden he comes from country SA so he doesn't have the same go-home risk as guys like Brad Ebert.

He looked very, very athletic.

 

[Grimreepah]

O'Brien 193cm = good key position height
Plowman 192cm = undersized key position player

 

[Quigley]

Tim O'Brien

Key forward = tick
Hair colour = tick
Non-victorian = tick
Athleticism = tick
Over head marking = tick

Can he add bulk to his 80kg frame?

Tasmanian = cross

Sorry Tim

Yes he should be fine on the bulk front although probably not a monster. I would compare him to Sam Reid in likely body shape.

 

[JasRulz63]

Same as Clurey, he's 193cm and I haven't read anywhere that height is a problem with him.

 

[Quigley]

O'Brien 193cm = good key position height
Plowman 192cm = undersized key position player

A bit undersized and in the bottom 10% over 20m. Not my preferred combination in a KPD. As a third tall that is fine.

 

[Sanchez365]

Same as Clurey, he's 193cm and I haven't read anywhere that height is a problem with him.

Maybe Plowman just has a small wingspan for his height, or vice-versa for other guys.

 

[Quigley]

Same as Clurey, he's 193cm and I haven't read anywhere that height is a problem with him.

For the record both actually measured in at exactly the same height.

 

[whatboutbob]

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Adelaide is understood to be very keen on using its first selection at the draft (No.20 overall) on O'Brien.

The ironing would be delicious if the Crows are stripped of pick 20 and the Lions took O'Brien @ 24.

 

[Quigley]

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The ironing would be delicious if the Crows are stripped of pick 20 and the Lions took O'Brien @ 24.

Should I be pedantic? Hmmm

PS - Not about the ironing I get that.

 

[whatboutbob]

Should I be pedantic? Hmmm

PS - Not about the ironing I get that.

Hehe...23 then.

 

[jackess]

A quick google search comes up with this.

 

[Skoob]

Hehe...23 then.

Knowing the AFL, they would probably just gift 20 to The Suns because they were next likely to get Tippett

 

[POBT]

A bit undersized and in the bottom 10% over 20m.

I'm alright with the former. I haven't agreed with your (and plenty of others) views on the impact of his height. Still reckon someone has to play on Hurley, Darling etc who are playing as key forwards just as much as the likes of Hawkins.

The latter is news to me and has me re-thinking my view on Plowman. You don't expect a KPP prospect to be a gun runner but you expect an elite one to be average at worst particularly if you have them pegged to play on gun running forwards like the two I mentioned.

 

[Grimreepah]

The latter is news to me and has me re-thinking my view on Plowman.

News to me too. Haven't seen any of the draft profiles mention lack of pace as a worry, so not sure how much weight to give it.

 

[jackess]

Maguire would have to be one of the slowest key backs and a similar height but he goes alright. I wouldn't use pick 8 on Matt Maguire though.

 

[jjami15]

If we were to go with Plowman i wouldn't be too upset. If he is the best player in the draft that plays back then i can understand. As crazy as it sounds i also wouldn't mind if they grabbed another but someone who can play KPD like a Tanner Smith. If they were to go this way you would assume that our bakline would be looked after for the next 10 years especially with Tickner next year and J.Clarke on the rookie list. Giving us three future players 195cm. Plowman, Docherty, Harwood and Golby to add to this. Defence wins premierships and this would go along way to rectifying our need for the future. Merret, Adcock, Patfull, Maguire have 3-4-5 years at best.

 

[chopperduck]

Times over 20m can depend on how well, especially a defender, reads the game i think. I mean, 20m times you are talking about 2-4 seconds. If a defender reads the play half a second quicker than his opponent, and 3.5 turns into a 3. I know it doesn't work exactly like that, but i guess that is how slower players often don't seem to look slow on the field.

Although i still agree, it wouldn't be such a big deal if he was just 'average' at that test, but to be something like the bottom 10% should make you stop and think.

 

[Imformant]

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/VZFqrTxYh8M" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> take a look a this link guys small forward/ midfielder anthony bonaddio 175cm 78kgs small l know but aggressive n talented , nice for a later pick or if still there rookie , thoughts ?

 

[Hollow Knight]

My thoughts are... "Hi Anthony!".

 

[Imformant]

Lol lm his Cous thats why l ask for some other opinions cause l could be a little bias lol

 

[Bert Man]

Lol lm his Cous thats why l ask for some other opinions cause l could be a little bias lol

Do you know if he has talked to Brisbane?

 

[Imformant]

No face to face but interest has been show with agent l believe , fare to say interstate clubs would have to have a one on one with draftees who live in different states , but knowing him and us being old fitzroy/ lions supporters he would live to be there

 

[whatboutbob]

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MELBOURNE has escaped penalty at next Thursday's national draft.
The Demons still face unprecedented penalties but investigations into its alleged tanking strategy in 2009 are continuing.
Given clubs need a week to respond to any potential charges, there is not enough time for the Demons to reply to any charges.

 

[JasRulz63]

Knightmare thinking GWS will pass on Grundy...interesting...

 

[jackess]

You'd think one of Melbourne, Bulldogs or Port would take Grundy if that was the case.