MRP / Trib. 2013 MRP thread

[Phone]

well time to start this up again...


Tribunal History:

Some very nice guy, not me because I'm lazy, has included our MRP history on our 2012 and 2011 season pages on Wiki. That makes it easy to see who has carry over points. (Paddy Ryder has 66...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Essendon_Football_Club_season#Tribunal_cases
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Essendon_Football_Club_season#Tribunal_cases

Shame we don't have 2010.

Tribunal booklet:

I haven't been able to find the 2013 version of the guide book, so here have 2012 again:
http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/2012/AFL-Tribunal-Booklet-2012.pdf

And two key screengrabs from that 2012 booklet:

2013 incidents honour roll:

Ryder on McPharlin (Round 3, Freo)



Kommer on the great man, Kep (Round 3, Freo)



Kommer's trip (Round 3, Freo)

 

[Phone]

and 2012 thread:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threa...offered-reprimand-jetta-cleared.948276/page-6

I assume I dropped off and missed some late season stuff. No posts since June. But maybe I didn't. I'll look into it

 

[daz17]

I reckon they are both gone.
Ryder at least 3-4 and not sure how many for Kommer.
Medical reports won't do them any favours.

Knew it was a concussion when I saw McPharlin fall back over when getting up. Terrible stuff.

 

[Phone]

Kommer is interesting. I don't know how it'll go. I mean, he'll probably get banned. But I think both the conduct and impact are up in the air. I'll go with a week. Ryder to me is a level 4 charge (reckless/high/high), so he'll end up on 491 points and 25% early plea discount (uh...help pls?). Could be negligent and be 325 points. I very much doubt it'll be intentional (550). high impact and high contact seem obvious enough

 

[Phone]

oh yeah and Kommer will probably get a small amount of points for the trip

 

[yaco55]

Assuming that Ryder is out, I would replace him with Gumby - who could also play as a relief ruck. Now if Hurley is out that will create a selection dilemma - Would probably still go with Gumby and bring in Winderlich.

 

[Phone]

I'd go with Gumby and Joey. Gumby to ruck. Winderlich for Kommer.

But that's for another thread

 

[gO_bOmBeRz]

Surely Ryder couldn't get 4-5 weeks for that, I mean it was bad, but not that bad.

My guess is 2-3.

 

[Slattery_20]

Ryder *should* get 2-ish, maybe 3. He chose to bump, some high contact and fairly high impact.

But, judging by Thomas bumping a bloke, getting him accidentally high, and getting off..... he probably gets a medal.
Who knows?

 

[gO_bOmBeRz]

How many carry over points will Ryder get ?

 

[Knight Ryders]

I gave Ryder 4 votes. This is the same guy we used to complain about not having any intent. That was beautiful and EFC will wear anything that comes.

Really a short mans rule though, Ryder didn't do a lot wrong.

 

[Slattery_20]

I gave Ryder 4 votes. This is the same guy we used to complain about not having any intent. That was beautiful and EFC will wear anything that comes.

Really a short mans rule though, Ryder didn't do a lot wrong.

He could've got his shoulder right down out of the way. Not easy to do, but that's what the game calls for now (and has for ~5 years). And a hip right through McPharlin's ribs would have much the same effect.

 

[gO_bOmBeRz]

McPharlin was subbed off but he looked fine down in the rooms. Should play next week, not sure how much that would help though.

The first thing that came to my mind was ANZAC day. Would've been extremely handy with Jolly missing.

 

[yaco55]

We will miss Ryder's tapwork - It's been a work of art this season.

 

[yaco55]

As Slatts said you can bump to the head - Karmichael Hunt is an excellent exponent of the bump to the body - And they hurt !

 

[daz17]

McPharlin was subbed off but he looked fine down in the rooms. Should play next week, not sure how much that would help though.

The first thing that came to my mind was ANZAC day. Would've been extremely handy with Jolly missing.

Concussion is concussion. They won't care about how he was in the rooms it's all in the medical report.

 

[sacka]

Ryder *should* get 2-ish, maybe 3. He chose to bump, some high contact and fairly high impact.

But, judging by Thomas bumping a bloke, getting him accidentally high, and getting off..... he probably gets a medal.
Who knows?

2 different bumps.
Head clash with Thomas but it was Paddy's shoulder that makes contact with the chin.

 

[Nasty Penguin]

Flip a coin TBH.
Not much difference between the Thomas hit and Ryder's except that Paddy is taller.
Kommer would be stiff i reckon. Tried to get out of the way and clipped him on the way through.
NFI

 

[Phone]

Not much difference between the Thomas hit and Ryder's except that Paddy is taller.

Which leads to a major difference, because in the end Thomas committed no punishable act. Ryder meanwhile has made initial contact with the head.

 

[sacka]

Flip a coin TBH.
Not much difference between the Thomas hit and Ryder's except that Paddy is taller.
Kommer would be stiff i reckon. Tried to get out of the way and clipped him on the way through.
NFI

There is fair difference, one was head on head the other was shoulder to chin.
Agree with Kommer, looked like he was trying to avoid contact in the end but was too late.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Ryders: Reckless, Medium, High level 4, 400 points. 66 points carry over, early plea 25%, 3 weeks with left overs for mine.

Hate this stupid numbers system, its a 1-2 week bump, treat it as such.

Kommers: no idea probably the same.

 

[quotemokc]

If Ryder just hadn't jumped 2 weeks minimum imo but at least we can reasonably cover him.

Kommer was hard done by but his squeaky clean record should help but in the end him being suspended is not that big a loss.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Kommer looked like he was going to shepherd for Kav(?) but Bradley fell over and the bump collected him in the head before Kommer could adjust. The alternative was to do a backflip of Bradley as he fell.

 

[grugsticles]

The worst thing about Ryder is that he will miss out on ANZAC Day , but I guess he will be back in time for Dreamtime.
Kommer im not as concerned about, we can slot someone in to replace him with out too much hassle (Merrit, Winderlich, Jetta, etc.)

 

[Darealrath]

I think Kommer is a chance to be ok given that the force was so low. It just looked worse because it hit Bradley on an awkward spot that cut him open. He didn't look dazed at all (well, more than usual anyway...).

Ryder will go but should be negligent not reckless IMO.