List Mgmt. 2016 general list discussion and speculation (cont in Pt.2)

[Teriyakicat]

I really rated some of his efforts in the preseason game against Gold Coast, his repeat efforts were great. And same in the final game against the crows, think he caught a couple holding the ball with his explosive speed and great tackling technique. I definitely think he has more potential in this area than Motlop and Murdoch.

Murdoch has been used as a pressure player but then people here complain that he's not getting enough of the ball. Likewise Varcoe last season.
They only get positive reports here when they are being attacking and creative which coincides with a drop-off in their pressure act numbers.

Some players can do both- ie be attacking AND keep the pressure on- Selwood is one of these. Motlop improved in this area in the second half of this season. We seem to lack this type of player but I hope it's just inexperience from the young guys and that they will improve.

 

[Mahlepi]

Mongrel on the GFC list
1. selwood
2. no-one else


5. hawkins

 

[goodoldcats]

Mongrel on the GFC list
1. selwood
2. no-one else


5. hawkins

Cockatoo has a very hard edge, may not harass the way a rioli does but he does try and hurt people with a bump or a slam tackle into the ground. Can see him frustrating the coaching staff and getting suspended throughout his career

 

[BigCat1]

The irony of it Gold coast getting a better pick for Zac Smith than Harley Bennell. To Freo for a second pick!!!

The world has gone mad.

 

[GFrost]

AFL.com's summary:

First draft selection: No.9
Unsigned free agents: Dawson Simpson
Delistings/retirements: Sam Blease, Brad Hartman, Steve Johnson, James Kelly, Hamish McIntosh, Jared Rivers, Mathew Stokes, James Toohey

Who else is going?
Ruckman Dawson Simpson is likely on the way out after playing just 28 games in eight injury-plagued seasons, with several rival clubs showing interest in the 26-year-old. Forward Josh Walker could leave as part of a trade for Carlton swingman Lachie Henderson. South Australian speedster Jordan Murdoch has been raised as a possible target of Adelaide in any Patrick Dangerfield trade, but he is contracted to the end 2018 and, at this stage, unlikely to agree to a move.

Who's coming?
Restricted free agent Patrick Dangerfield has nominated Geelong as his preferred new home, but the Cats will almost certainly have to trade for him given the Crows' apparent preparedness to match any free agency offer. They will likely have to part with (1) their 2015 first-round pick and (2) a 2016 pick (probably first-round) and/or a player. Carlton key-position player Lachie Henderson has requested a trade to Geelong, but the Dangerfield negotiations will complicate the Cats' efforts to satisfy the Blues' trade demands. The Cats are also pursuing out-of-contract Gold Coast ruckman Zac Smith and are set to acquire West Coast vice-captain Scott Selwood as a restricted free agent.

 

[Mahlepi]

AFL.com's summary:

First draft selection: No.9
Unsigned free agents: Dawson Simpson
Delistings/retirements: Sam Blease, Brad Hartman, Steve Johnson, James Kelly, Hamish McIntosh, Jared Rivers, Mathew Stokes, James Toohey

Who else is going?
Ruckman Dawson Simpson is likely on the way out after playing just 28 games in eight injury-plagued seasons, with several rival clubs showing interest in the 26-year-old. Forward Josh Walker could leave as part of a trade for Carlton swingman Lachie Henderson. South Australian speedster Jordan Murdoch has been raised as a possible target of Adelaide in any Patrick Dangerfield trade, but he is contracted to the end 2018 and, at this stage, unlikely to agree to a move.

Who's coming?
Restricted free agent Patrick Dangerfield has nominated Geelong as his preferred new home, but the Cats will almost certainly have to trade for him given the Crows' apparent preparedness to match any free agency offer. They will likely have to part with (1) their 2015 first-round pick and (2) a 2016 pick (probably first-round) and/or a player. Carlton key-position player Lachie Henderson has requested a trade to Geelong, but the Dangerfield negotiations will complicate the Cats' efforts to satisfy the Blues' trade demands. The Cats are also pursuing out-of-contract Gold Coast ruckman Zac Smith and are set to acquire West Coast vice-captain Scott Selwood as a restricted free agent.

Jj gone
Walker gone
Kersten possibly gone
Dawson gone

That's a minimum of 12 new players
Serious madness

 

[strauchnyy]

Jj gone
Walker gone
Kersten possibly gone
Dawson gone

That's a minimum of 12 new players
Serious madness

I still cannot believe we got rid of SJ.

With there likely being 10 spots to fill with 6 or more selections after 45, not keeping a gun forward pocket for another year is madness

 

[Cool Cat]

The irony of it Gold coast getting a better pick for Zac Smith than Harley Bennell. To Freo for a second pick!!!

The world has gone mad.

What what? Not serious, surely?!!

 

[Cool Cat]

I still cannot believe we got rid of SJ.

With there likely being 10 spots to fill with 6 or more selections after 45, not keeping a gun forward pocket for another year is madness

Obviously we have to wait and see what happens, but if they f@ck this up they deserve to be held to account.

Getting Henderson, danger and Selwood is great, but won't cover 10+ list vacancies. Why on earth did they cut SJ?

 

[Mahlepi]

Obviously we have to wait and see what happens, but if they f@ck this up they deserve to be held to account.

Getting Henderson, danger and Selwood is great, but won't cover 10+ list vacancies. Why on earth did they cut SJ?

Jj walks when it's his time to step up
It's the risk in developing players

 

[Cool Cat]

Jj walks when it's his time to step up
It's the risk in developing players

Yes. Our first 18 for next year looks terrific, but if we get hit by injuries we will be completely stuffed.

 

[Mahlepi]

Yes. Our first 18 for next year looks terrific, but if we get hit by injuries we will be completely stuffed.

That's why recruiting 2-3 25 year olds is a must, can't recruit 7 18 year olds from 50 onwards
Trading for danger is seriously naive

 

[Cool Cat]

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That's why recruiting 2-3 25 year olds is a must, can't recruit 7 18 year olds from 50 onwards
Trading for danger is seriously naive

Either they have something up their sleeves, or this is a really poor list management strategy. We need to use our picks AND pick up free agents (for free).

 

[Mahlepi]

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Either they have something up their sleeves, or this is a really poor list management strategy. We need to use our picks AND pick up free agents (for free).

Or else we have some boys who went awol this year in sa to recruit

 

[Cool Cat]

Swollen?

 

[Cool Cat]

It seems like it has been a poor strategy to announce so many departures at the same time as we are going after danger. It has left us exposed should we have to trade for him.

 

[Daniel McL]

Jj gone
Walker gone
Kersten possibly gone
Dawson gone

That's a minimum of 12 new players
Serious madness

Still believe we will get Danger without Crows matching?...

 

[Jon Douglas]

Obviously we have to wait and see what happens, but if they f@ck this up they deserve to be held to account.

Getting Henderson, danger and Selwood is great, but won't cover 10+ list vacancies. Why on earth did they cut SJ?

This is exactly what I have been thinking. We have a lot of players going and very few picks and not many good ones at that. Unless SJ needed to be moved on re salary cap pressure because we know we are getting Danger, Scooter and Henderson. Otherwise it makes little sense to me.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

If Bennell is available for a second round pick surely we can get in there. I know we can't have everyone but that would be an absolute steal.

 

[manboob]

If Bennell is available for a second round pick surely we can get in there. I know we can't have everyone but that would be an absolute steal.

I just hope for his own sake he doesn't end up back in WA.

 

[Eudes]

Does anyone have a list of all the FA this year? Just curious to see if there's any worth going after (a part from the obvious 2 that we're already linked too)

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Does anyone have a list of all the FA this year? Just curious to see if there's any worth going after (a part from the obvious 2 that we're already linked too)

http://www.afl.com.au/trade/free-agency

 

[Eudes]

http://www.afl.com.au/trade/free-agency

Cheers

Just having a skim through and there isn't many solid ones left.

The only ones I'd may have a look at are Matt Suckling, Colin Garland and possible Tayte Pears (don't know what's happened to this bloke, looked solid a couple years back. Fallen off the face of the earth)

 

[Claude Balls]

I hope they get there mitts on Kolo's brother at some point. I'm all for developing a back-line with great footskills. J. Kolo has 'em, Thurlow has 'em. K. Kolo most definitely has 'em.

That and a bit of speed off the half-back flank. No, not Murda. Someone with speed AND footy smarts.

 

[Cataholic]

I hope they get there mitts on Kolo's brother at some point. I'm all for developing a back-line with great footskills. J. Kolo has 'em, Thurlow has 'em. K. Kolo most definitely has 'em.

That and a bit of speed off the half-back flank. No, not Murda. Someone with speed AND footy smarts.

Murda has to play up front. His kicking into the forward line is what we need