List Mgmt. 2016 Potential Draft Picks

[Macca19]

Stuff the phantom draft...

Macca19 whats your thoughts on Whimpress and Noonan? They both tested elite. Their highlights packages from their one state game both look impressive. Whimpress trained with his local club for the year because it was too far to get to training. He had to stay with relatives when playing away matches. Barracks for Port. Hope Port are looking very closely at them. Screams upside.

The thing I dont like about Whimpress is he often looks quite lazy out on the field. I want to see his repeat running and team work improve, for someone with his physical traits he needs to improve that side of his game quite a lot. Has the raw tools to play AFL, good size, super quick, good kick. Its just whether he can improve that side of his game or not.

I've loved what i've seen of Noonan. I want to see more...MOOAAARR. He reminds me a lot of a young Wanganeen in how he moves and plays. I can tell already the Crows will pick him up and i'll be pissed off on draft night.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Hot form sees SA forward firm for draft top 15:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-...hayward-rocket-into-top-15-draft-calculations

 

[*PAF]

Still was an elite in modern day football as is Sam mitchell.

Michael Barlow
Luke shuey
Dan hannabery
Matt Priddis
Rory Sloane
Jack Steven
Tom libratore

I would say footy nous plays more part than athletic ability in these situations.

As PAF stated its yes and no. You have to have some standard in athletic ability. But footy nous can overcome limitations.

Edit lol Sleezy beat me to it.

I think we can also add athletically gifted players with nous to that list.

There was a stage when people looked for the athlete through the draft thinking you could train footy smarts, but that thinking has pretty much disappeared nowadays.

Disappeared is not totally correct but not as many top players slip through the cracks nowadays and get picked up in the first 3 or so rounds.

I am not sure how far they went back for the points system but it may be skewed because of that if they went back too many years.

 

[Macca19]

He has spreadsheets. Its quite intimidating

Its more of a spreadshit than a spreadsheet

 

[Macca19]

I like how thanks to the podcast posters just address their random questions specifically to Macca. Nobody cares about anybody else's opinion anymore

You can still answer the same questions. Im not meaning to hog anything.

 

[Chachi]

Hot form sees SA forward firm for draft top 15:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-...hayward-rocket-into-top-15-draft-calculations

It's interesting how Hayward's position has changed to see him flying up the phantom draft boards given he hasn't played anymore footy.

Besides GC I can't see any other club grabbing Hayward him before us.

Given what KT said on the podcast, we won't take English with our first pick.

Seems like Brodie will slide given Carlton are into SPS.

 

[Macca19]

Still was an elite in modern day football as is Sam mitchell.

Michael Barlow
Luke shuey
Dan hannabery
Matt Priddis
Rory Sloane
Jack Steven
Tom libratore

I would say footy nous plays more part than athletic ability in these situations.

As PAF stated its yes and no. You have to have some standard in athletic ability. But footy nous can overcome limitations.

Edit lol Sleezy beat me to it.

I don't think Shuey, Hannebury, Sloane or Steven apply. Three of those were high draft picks and all four have great athletic traits.

Barlow & Priddis are prime examples. Jarryd Blair probably another. Sam Gibson.

 

[NEGAN]

I think we can also add athletically gifted players with nous to that list.

There was a stage when people looked for the athlete through the draft thinking you could train footy smarts, but that thinking has pretty much disappeared nowadays.

Disappeared is not totally correct but not as many top players slip through the cracks nowadays and get picked up in the first 3 or so rounds.

I am not sure how far they went back for the points system but it may be skewed because of that if they went back too many years.

Nic nat comes to mind

 

[missionpossible]

Barlow was sub 3.00 and 14 plus beep iirc.

Zeibell is your example of being a poor athlete.

 

[*PAF]

I don't think Shuey, Hannebury, Sloane or Steven apply. Three of those were high draft picks and all four have great athletic traits.

Barlow & Priddis are prime examples. Jarryd Blair probably another. Sam Gibson.

Yeah but the debate shouldn't be one or the other as nowadays kids have specialised training from a young age.

Probably the better debate would be how many late picks with not much footy nous end up with a long career in the AFL.

 

[Papa G]

The 6 that I like that would be in the realms of possibility are:
Marshall
Logue
Berry
Battle
Graham
Cox

Lots of talls
Graham is ready made (although could suffer from man child syndrome).

 

[x_les_x]

Brett anderson in his latest inside football has us taking simpkin hayward or logue with our first and probably second pick. If english slips we will also take him

Good read has individual strengths and weaknesses for each player

 

[port09]

Want a midfielder with the first pick,Sam Powell-Pepper please...

 

[x_les_x]

Id be content with

14-marshall/hayward
17-witherden/simpkin
30-graham/scharenberg/pohlkoe/clarke/atley/drew/parfitt/any of the 30 inside mids who cant kick
31-undecided; b cox ?

Rookie sweet or ladhams

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I'm surprised that Hayward has gone through the roof. He's not fyfe. He doesn't get the ball much. Doesn't do midfield? Not a kpf. Does some nice things but surely we have bigger needs for an early pick.

 

[x_les_x]

I'm surprised that Hayward has gone through the roof. He's not fyfe. He doesn't get the ball much. Doesn't do midfield? Not a kpf. Does some nice things but surely we have bigger needs for an early pick.

Accumulation plays a role when youre pigeonholed as a forward pocketer because your team has no third fwd and your that good inside 50; even though you have better than average endurance and are gifted athletically. He has midfield scope and footy smarts based on what recruiters have said, more runs on the board than any other forward in this draft. From the day one of pre season literally kens last match day interview hes said were not going for needs with our top pick were going for the best avaliable whether that be a back mid or fwd which generally has an impact in their first year ala wingard and wines. Hayward can play first year and if he is the best avaliable at 14 id have no problem picking him up even if the majority of this board want to waste 14 on a player such as spp

 

[Hellgood]

I'm surprised that Hayward has gone through the roof. He's not fyfe. He doesn't get the ball much. Doesn't do midfield? Not a kpf. Does some nice things but surely we have bigger needs for an early pick.

Not that I'm advocating picking him (and agree we've got more pressing needs) Fyfe didn't play midfield, didn't get the ball much and wasn't a KPF!

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I'm not opposed to Hayward. He's got some gifts. I actually have no idea who i want at 14. I might need to stalk venables and see how he his been hidden for the last couple of months.

 

[Hellgood]

Dane swan?

Whilst he looked like a barrel and suspect his skinfolds would have been amongst the worst in the AFL, the power through his body and burst of speed he possessed was pretty staggering. One of the most impressive athletes I've seen playing footy.

 

[Hellgood]

I'm not opposed to Hayward. He's got some gifts. I actually have no idea who i want at 14. I might need to stalk venables and see how he his been hidden for the last couple of months.

Oh I agree. Based on what I've seen I would be pretty surprised if he went that early. Just that Fyfe was hardly a real standout prior to being drafted.

 

[Jonts]

Marshall and Hayward 14/17 with the best inside 50 entry midfielder in the draft at 30 and an inside mid at 31

 

[SureBuddy]

I think we need to take one forward at 14/17 and one quality mid at the other pick. By the time 30 comes around, there is still good picks, but we won't be getting the same quality of midfielder as the first round pick. We need to include a very talented mid and there is more chance at 14/17 than 30/31.

I would be very happy with Berry/SPP at 14 and Marshall/Hayward at 17, (don't think Berry will be there for 17 and maybe not even for 14).

 

[Macca19]

I'm surprised that Hayward has gone through the roof. He's not fyfe. He doesn't get the ball much. Doesn't do midfield? Not a kpf. Does some nice things but surely we have bigger needs for an early pick.

His 2 best under 18s games this year were:

25 disposals, 7 marks, 7 goals
22 disposals, 10 marks, 9 goals

Averaged 17 touches a game at under 18 level. I'd say thats a decent possession rate for a guy that played mostly inside 50 this year.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

I'm not writing off Hayward at all. But...he didn't get double digit disposals in any of the four championship games.

 

[Chachi]

The way this draft is our picks at 30/31 could be better than an earlier pick.