Training 2017/2018 Pre-season Thread

[Thetrader15]

Milera?

We tend to take our time with rookies, but those we rate really highly get extended runs early under Pyke.

I reckon Mikera is in for one and out for one, not a 'here's a 6 game block' like we do with others

 

[marty36]

No just likes a long argument, as will change sides depending on the opposition...

Come on Kane you know why I’m talking about graham

His old man played SANFL footy he is a lark medalist and an SA lad he slid because of the over hype on TAC players actually very similar to burton, his Dad played SANFL absolute ripper of a player

Reminds me a bit of the bitcoin hype

We have this enormous issue with retaining Vic players and we know full well 90% of the time SA players remain with us

It took a while for the penny to drop with Hamish but maybe the success of burton and graham has made him realise not to follow the Vic teams they have the same problem in retaining SA talent as we have in retaining Vic talent so they will choose Vic talent first as it’s logical

Unfortunately there isn’t as much talent out of SA because our population is a third of Victoria we just have to have our finger on the pulse of what is coming out of here and be smart about it


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[marty36]

Seems pretty obvious Seedsman for Smith like for like. He has always looked to be a quality player with an obvious weapon. Just needs to get through pre season.

Seedsman deserves a crack like Hampton or Gibson there audition will come pre season whoever shines might get the gig

Or they could go proven player like Gibbs or sloane if those three fail to impress

The position is up for grabs and it’s up to the player to earn it

As the same for Levers spot

Looking forward to a competitive pre season amongst a few players this year


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[Mego Red]

Graham played in a AFL GF kicked three goals and held Sloane to 4 possessions for a half of footy

Graham might let Doedee carry his boots


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So, Graham has played one good game?

Fantastic to hear. Meaningless.

Unlike your ludicrous bias against Doedee, I hope Graham does well and can hold his spot when six to eight other Richmond players start trying to take it. Meanwhile, Doedee has Cheney.

 

[marty36]

I reckon Mikera is in for one and out for one, not a 'here's a 6 game block' like we do with others

You would hope in his third year he will find some consistency


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[Doedee Bros]

Come on Kane you know why I’m talking about graham

His old man played SANFL footy he is a lark medalist and an SA lad he slid because of the over hype on TAC players actually very similar to burton, his Dad played SANFL absolute ripper of a player

Reminds me a bit of the bitcoin hype

We have this enormous issue with retaining Vic players and we know full well 90% of the time SA players remain with us

It took a while for the penny to drop with Hamish but maybe the success of burton and graham has made him realise not to follow the Vic teams they have the same problem in retaining SA talent as we have in retaining Vic talent so they will choose Vic talent first as it’s logical

Unfortunately there isn’t as much talent out of SA because our population is a third of Victoria we just have to have our finger on the pulse of what is coming out of here and be smart about it


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what makes you say Graham is a success? he could disappear just as fast

 

[Mego Red]

Cheney - yep
Kelly - already in the 22
Gibson - hard runner, his gut running won't be wasted in a purely back half role. He's putting pressure on players who work further forward.
Keath - maybe, but I doubt we'll go that tall, even though he's quick, my money is on Lever being replaced by a more nimble player. Like Cheney or Doedee.

Keath and Doedee have played plenty of games together in the SANFL, and Doedee has always played the Lever role then, not Keath.

 

[Mego Red]

No just likes a long argument, as will change sides depending on the opposition...

Marty doesn't change sides. He is consistently simple with his opinions.

 

[marty36]

So, Graham has played one good game?

Fantastic to hear. Meaningless.

Unlike your ludicrous bias against Doedee, I hope Graham does well and can hold his spot when six to eight other Richmond players start trying to take it. Meanwhile, Doedee has Cheney.

Go away that was Graham’s first year and he put it on the park when it counted, who’s now showing bias

Doedee has been on our list two years and failed to fire a shot

Talk about bias how many of the 70 players drafted in 2015 haven’t played a game yet forget the fact he was a first rounder


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[Mego Red]

what makes you say Graham is a success? he could disappear just as fast

Graham has only played one good game.

Even Burton could start going backwards, as his injury wasn't one you just "get better" from. It will cut his career short, but the question is when and how.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Marty doesn't change sides. He is consistently simple with his opinions.

Not for the same discussion, but has for similar ones...

 

[marty36]

Graham has only played one good game.

Even Burton could start going backwards, as his injury wasn't one you just "get better" from. It will cut his career short, but the question is when and how.

Hahahaha not showing bias

We are comparing

Burton and Graham

To

Doedee and pohlkoke

Maybe elite will run a poll on polls board asking who has greater success like he did Dixon v JJ

This is hilarious to even compare the players



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[Mego Red]

Go away that was Graham’s first year and he put it on the park when it counted, who’s now showing bias

Doedee has been on our list two years and failed to fire a shot

Talk about bias how many of the 70 players drafted in 2015 haven’t played a game yet forget the fact he was a first rounder


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Graham has played one good game.

Doedee is a teenager who led the SANFL in his position and came runner-up in our B&F.

He's been given 30 games in the SANFL to learn his role perfectly so he can step into a winning side. We don't throw kids to the wolves. The club has timed his development perfectly.

 

[marty36]

Graham has played one good game.

Doedee is a teenager who led the SANFL in his position and came runner-up in our B&F.

He's been given 30 games in the SANFL to learn his role perfectly so he can step into a winning side. We don't throw kids to the wolves. The club has timed his development perfectly.

So

Burton v Doedee
Graham v pohlkoke

What’s your football knowledge like who is miles ahead?


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[Scorpus]

Boy, we've never had this discussion before

 

[marty36]

Boy, we've never had this discussion before

Not since pav v McGregor

Let’s hope this isn’t another one of those mistakes did that cost us a premiership


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[Mego Red]

So

Burton v Doedee
Graham v pohlkoke

What’s your football knowledge like who is miles ahead?


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Burton is ahead of Doedee, and Hawthorn are behind the Crows.

Graham and Poholke are reasonably close to one another. One has debuted and played a good game and the other has yet to debut.

 

[marty36]

what makes you say Graham is a success? he could disappear just as fast

If Milera had come into the GF last year and did what Graham did to Sloane let’s say Milera did it to dusty

It would have been fantastic and we would have probably won the GF

This board would have an orgasm

Come on stop showing bias against brilliant efforts


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[Mego Red]

Boy, we've never had this discussion before

I'd be curious about how much electricity the internet had burned on posts where Marty mentions Doedee or drafting SA players.

 

[Mego Red]

If Milera had come into the GF last year and did what Graham did to Sloane let’s say Milera did it to dusty

It would have been fantastic and we would have probably won the GF

This board would have an orgasm

Come on stop showing bias against brilliant efforts


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Milera had already played some good games.

Graham has played one good game on the most tagged player in the AFL.

Let's see if Graham had a second good game in him before we wet ourselves.

 

[marty36]

Milera had already played some good games.

Graham has played one good game on the most tagged player in the AFL.

Let's see if Graham had a second good game in him before we wet ourselves.

Keep showing your bias

It’s ridiculous he smashed one of the best players in the comp and was a fair reason why his team took out the GF


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[Redleg Crow]

Are there any stats on who kicks out after a behind for each team?

Was ours Smith?

 

[marty36]

I'd be curious about how much electricity the internet had burned on posts where Marty mentions Doedee or drafting SA players.

Not as much as the years of Mackay and JJ whipping


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[marty36]

Are there any stats on who kicks out after a behind for each team?

Was our's Smith?

If he is our go to man then it looks like Gibbs will get the Gig we need an elite leg in that backline


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[Redleg Crow]

If he is our go to man then it looks like Gibbs will get the Gig we need an elite leg in that backline


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It's also one of the weird stats anomalies. It doesn't count as a possession (rightly) and yet accurate kicking is absolutely vital. So it would be great to know the turnover etc stats of the kick ins, but since they don't count as a kick they're not really included. Surely though Champion data have them