Game Day 2017 National Draft

[Hardas]

Fogarty or Bust

I'm keen too, Matt.
Reckon he can play several different roles really well.

 

[jackcass]

I'm keen too, Matt.
Reckon he can play several different roles really well.

I'd be happy to see us take any 1 of Stephenson, Fogarty, Bonar or Coffield at 6. Could even accept Balta.

 

[sr36]

Nah, it was reported over the course of a couple of months leading up to the trade period that several clubs were interested, but once he nominated GC as his destination that all became irrelevant.

Hines poor negotiating cost us, not lack of interest from other clubs.

I've been told the opposite. Heard his preference was to stay in Melbourne, but no one was interested.

 

[DaVe86]

I’ve kind of narrowed my focus exclusively to Fogarty and Coffield now*

You could make an argument that both would be best available at that pick and both (kind of) fill an immediate list need. Not as much as a KPF sure, but the key talls around the top 10 this year don’t inspire me and I’d be grabbing a project KPF instead at pick 38.

*Nb; If someone remarkable from the top 4 somehow slips to 6 you’d be crazy not to nab them

I'm with you. I'm definitely down to those 2. I lean to Fogarty just because I reckon he could be a bull. But Coffield would be a very nice list fit.

The tough decision is going to be if Cerra or Stephenson slip. It would be hard to ignore, but I don't think either are a need.

I'd also totally understand if the club went for Brander or Naughton. I think both are the best key position players around our mark. I'd be comfortable with those selections, but not inspired.

I'd steer clear of Bonar. It's probably overly conservative, but I just think we need something a little more certain. I wouldn't be reaching for Balta either. I like the look of him, but probably not for pick 6.

 

[Hardas]

I'd be happy to see us take any 1 of Stephenson, Fogarty, Bonar or Coffield at 6. Could even accept Balta.

Fogarty, then Coffield, for me.
Not convinced on Balta as I'm not sure what he will do really well at AFL-level.
Also, is Stephenson gonna kick it well enough, often enough?
Haven't seen anything of Bonar yet.

 

[DraftBalta]

Every club's best draft fit (SEN)


ADELAIDE - Jaidyn Stephenson – Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 12)

Highly unlikely to pass through to pick 12 but has the outside speed and playmaking ability to cover for loss to Charlie Cameron. Stephenson is rated as ready to go by Ranges’ coach Darren Bewick and would give the Crows another outside playmaking dimension.

A host of mock drafts have the possession winner going top five but given the divided opinions among recruiters on a host of players, anything is possible.

BRISBANE - Luke Davies-Uniacke – Dandenong Stingrays, Victoria (Pick 1)

Pressure galore on club, and subsequently player, taken with the first pick.

If it's possible for an 18-year-old to have every box ticked, then the Stingrays’ star has done it. In a draft that could offer more excuses than players, Davies-Uniacke looks the safe bet, and importantly is the type of player the Lions need to add class to their midfield.

CARLTON - Cameron Rayner – Western Jets, Victoria (Pick 3)

Already been compared to Dustin Martin – good luck living up to that – but has unbridled playmaking ability and in the wake of Bryce Gibbs' departure, and the age demographic of Marc Murpy and Ed Curnow, the Jets star fits the Blues.

Paired with Patrick Cripps, the duo could form a lethal partnership, but fans will need to be patient given the knock on the kid is endurance. How hard he works to overcome that will determine how quickly his star rises.

COLLINGWOOD - Aaron Naughton – Peel Thunder, Western Australia (Pick 6)

The Magpies need key defenders, especially ones capable of intercept marking.

Naughton grew up a one-eyed Collingwood supporter - he moved to Western Australia from Melbourne when he was nine – and is clearly the best key defender in this draft.

While moving away is now an issue in AFL football, going to the club he supported might help ease the burden.

ESSENDON - James Worpel – Geelong Falcons, Victoria (Pick 48)

Pickings getting slim by end of third round but Worpel shapes as Essendon’s best bet if available. Given the Dons lack midfield defensive pressure and contested ball bulls, the Geelong teenaged offers exactly that.

Tackles to hurt opponents, will lay eight a game and has leadership qualities. Said to win contested ball better than any player the Falcons coach Dan O’Keefe has managed.

FREMANTLE - Paddy Dow – Bendigo Pioneers, Victoria (Pick 2)

Loss of Lachie Weller heightens the need for the Dockers to bolster their midfield and Dow offers an inside ball winner who can kick goals.

The knock is on his kicking, but in terms of contested ball, he had no peer in the TAC Cup despite playing most of the year for Geelong Grammar.

GEELONG - Sam Taylor – Swan Districts, Western Australia (Pick 22)

The Cats lost Tom Lonergan to retirement and likely the same fate awaits Harry Taylor at the end of next year when his five-year deal expires. Lachie Henderson turns 28 in December. The only young prospect they have is 20-year-old Tasmanian Ryan Gardner, who is yet to see senior action.

Getting Sam Taylor to rub shoulders and learn from his namesake for at least one season has the potential to shape the Western Australian’s career long into the future. Given Cats midfield and forward line is set the club can afford to take a project defender.

GOLD COAST - Charlie Constable – Sandringham Dragons, Victoria (Pick 19)

The Suns need impact players and Constable is rated as one of the TAC Cup’s best big game performers. Key for the Gold Coast is adding versatility, and the Dragons teenager can play midfield and forward, as well down back if required.

He is a traditional sort of player who can work on the athletic elements but has footy smarts in spades.

GWS - Jarrod Brander – Bendigo Pioneers, Victoria (Pick 11)

GWS is in a premiership window, so they can look to secure a project key position player. Still some confusion about which end of the ground Jarrod Brander will settle, but defense has its nose in front.

He will have plenty of talent around from which to learn from, and importantly, that gives him time to develop mentally and physically in the NEAFL.

HAWTHORN - Oscar Clavarino – Dandenong Stingrays, Victoria (Pick 43)

In wake of Josh Gibson’s retirement, and the age of James Frawley (29), replenishing the key defensive stocks is a priority for the Hawks. Clavarino is a key defender with exceptional leadership qualities.

His knock is his short kicking, but he can work on it when he gets to the next level. He is still working out balance between attack and defence, but could be a nice project player for the brown and gold.

MELBOURNE - Matthew Ling – Geelong Falcons, Victoria (Pick 31)

Skilled and speedy half-back breaks the lines and hurts rivals with a deadly left foot. Ling is also a great character kid who fits the mould of a modern-day player. Outside chance to last until pick 31, but the Dees will be hoping so.

He would form a dynamic duo with Jayden Hunt from half-back.

NORTH MELBOURNE - Adam Cerra - Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 4)

The Roos are in desperate need of midfield class and Cerra provides just that. Rated by Eastern Ranges coach Darren Bewick as equal in talent to Christian Petracca, and he believes only injury prevented the star playmaker from going pick 1. Got all the tools to be a 200-plus gamer for the rebuilding Roos.

PORT ADELAIDE - Harrison Petty – Norwood, South Australia (Pick 46)

Moved to key defensive post (previously played forward) and progressed at a rate of knots this year. The Power need key defenders and could do worse than take a local product who reads the game well and is a developing intercept marker.

RICHMOND - Sam Hayes – Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 17)

A premiership offers the club latitude not afforded to some rivals. Hayes has polarised the recruiting community with some believing he’ll be a star ruck/forward while others rate him doomed to fail.

At 203cm and 93kg, he is a strong body with enormous upside. It will be recalled the Dogs took skinny ruckman Tim English last year with the 19th pick and the Tigers might just follow suit given others are unlikely to take a ruck option early in the draft.

ST KILDA - Andrew Brayshaw – Sandringham Dragons, Victoria (Pick 7)

The Saints are desperate for class and Brayshaw is just that. Footy IQ is said to be through the roof, he can play inside and outside, and is touted as a big-game player.

Pressure is on St Kilda to deliver with this pick and Brayshaw is one player that has fewer question marks than many.

SYDNEY - Jack Higgins – Oakleigh Chargers, Victoria (Pick 14)

The only glaring deficiency on the Swans list is a small forward with ultra competitiveness. Higgins is a super professional player and leader who prepares like an AFL player.

He has worked hard to be a more complete player with tackling pressure.

WEST COAST - Darcy Fogarty – Glenelg, South Australia (Pick 13)

An injury interrupted year might see the South Australian slip down the order and into the lap of West Coast. Lack of genuine pace might be a flag for the Eagles, but the club might not be willing pass up on a player who is a modern-day hulking midfielder who can kick goals, take a mark and can be a match-winner.

WESTERN BULLDOGS - Nicholas Coffield – Northern Knights, Victoria (Pick 9)

The Dogs have pure ball winning covered, but need speed on the outside, and Coffield is their man.

At 191cm he runs 2.89 seconds for 20 metres, is a precise kick and kicks goals. The loss of Jake Stringer gives rise to the Dogs looking for a playmaker forward of centre.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/10/31/every-clubs-best-draft-fit/

 

[Apex36]

Check out that shoulder though Apex
Damaged goods and damaged it again during year
Didn't dominate vfl
Hines fault hardly things after all are only worth what can be get
Define value it's an opinion
He had Low currency therefore because of the shoulder (hence his poor marking) and is soft due to that Injury and his general approach well known I might add
We did well to get what we did
Never ever worth a top 20
On the bright side Great we got Kirby and cox is much better
Lets move on

He absolutely dominated the VFL, and I never said he was worth a top 20 pick, I said a pick in the 20’s.

 

[DWil6]

We don’t need intercept marking players that bad...

 

[Maxwell#27]

I'd love claverino to be available at 38 if that sen article is anything to go by

 

[unplugged]

Every club's best draft fit (SEN)


ADELAIDE - Jaidyn Stephenson – Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 12)

Highly unlikely to pass through to pick 12 but has the outside speed and playmaking ability to cover for loss to Charlie Cameron. Stephenson is rated as ready to go by Ranges’ coach Darren Bewick and would give the Crows another outside playmaking dimension.

A host of mock drafts have the possession winner going top five but given the divided opinions among recruiters on a host of players, anything is possible.

BRISBANE - Luke Davies-Uniacke – Dandenong Stingrays, Victoria (Pick 1)

Pressure galore on club, and subsequently player, taken with the first pick.

If it's possible for an 18-year-old to have every box ticked, then the Stingrays’ star has done it. In a draft that could offer more excuses than players, Davies-Uniacke looks the safe bet, and importantly is the type of player the Lions need to add class to their midfield.

CARLTON - Cameron Rayner – Western Jets, Victoria (Pick 3)

Already been compared to Dustin Martin – good luck living up to that – but has unbridled playmaking ability and in the wake of Bryce Gibbs' departure, and the age demographic of Marc Murpy and Ed Curnow, the Jets star fits the Blues.

Paired with Patrick Cripps, the duo could form a lethal partnership, but fans will need to be patient given the knock on the kid is endurance. How hard he works to overcome that will determine how quickly his star rises.

COLLINGWOOD - Aaron Naughton – Peel Thunder, Western Australia (Pick 6)

The Magpies need key defenders, especially ones capable of intercept marking.

Naughton grew up a one-eyed Collingwood supporter - he moved to Western Australia from Melbourne when he was nine – and is clearly the best key defender in this draft.

While moving away is now an issue in AFL football, going to the club he supported might help ease the burden.

ESSENDON - James Worpel – Geelong Falcons, Victoria (Pick 48)

Pickings getting slim by end of third round but Worpel shapes as Essendon’s best bet if available. Given the Dons lack midfield defensive pressure and contested ball bulls, the Geelong teenaged offers exactly that.

Tackles to hurt opponents, will lay eight a game and has leadership qualities. Said to win contested ball better than any player the Falcons coach Dan O’Keefe has managed.

FREMANTLE - Paddy Dow – Bendigo Pioneers, Victoria (Pick 2)

Loss of Lachie Weller heightens the need for the Dockers to bolster their midfield and Dow offers an inside ball winner who can kick goals.

The knock is on his kicking, but in terms of contested ball, he had no peer in the TAC Cup despite playing most of the year for Geelong Grammar.

GEELONG - Sam Taylor – Swan Districts, Western Australia (Pick 22)

The Cats lost Tom Lonergan to retirement and likely the same fate awaits Harry Taylor at the end of next year when his five-year deal expires. Lachie Henderson turns 28 in December. The only young prospect they have is 20-year-old Tasmanian Ryan Gardner, who is yet to see senior action.

Getting Sam Taylor to rub shoulders and learn from his namesake for at least one season has the potential to shape the Western Australian’s career long into the future. Given Cats midfield and forward line is set the club can afford to take a project defender.

GOLD COAST - Charlie Constable – Sandringham Dragons, Victoria (Pick 19)

The Suns need impact players and Constable is rated as one of the TAC Cup’s best big game performers. Key for the Gold Coast is adding versatility, and the Dragons teenager can play midfield and forward, as well down back if required.

He is a traditional sort of player who can work on the athletic elements but has footy smarts in spades.

GWS - Jarrod Brander – Bendigo Pioneers, Victoria (Pick 11)

GWS is in a premiership window, so they can look to secure a project key position player. Still some confusion about which end of the ground Jarrod Brander will settle, but defense has its nose in front.

He will have plenty of talent around from which to learn from, and importantly, that gives him time to develop mentally and physically in the NEAFL.

HAWTHORN - Oscar Clavarino – Dandenong Stingrays, Victoria (Pick 43)

In wake of Josh Gibson’s retirement, and the age of James Frawley (29), replenishing the key defensive stocks is a priority for the Hawks. Clavarino is a key defender with exceptional leadership qualities.

His knock is his short kicking, but he can work on it when he gets to the next level. He is still working out balance between attack and defence, but could be a nice project player for the brown and gold.

MELBOURNE - Matthew Ling – Geelong Falcons, Victoria (Pick 31)

Skilled and speedy half-back breaks the lines and hurts rivals with a deadly left foot. Ling is also a great character kid who fits the mould of a modern-day player. Outside chance to last until pick 31, but the Dees will be hoping so.

He would form a dynamic duo with Jayden Hunt from half-back.

NORTH MELBOURNE - Adam Cerra - Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 4)

The Roos are in desperate need of midfield class and Cerra provides just that. Rated by Eastern Ranges coach Darren Bewick as equal in talent to Christian Petracca, and he believes only injury prevented the star playmaker from going pick 1. Got all the tools to be a 200-plus gamer for the rebuilding Roos.

PORT ADELAIDE - Harrison Petty – Norwood, South Australia (Pick 46)

Moved to key defensive post (previously played forward) and progressed at a rate of knots this year. The Power need key defenders and could do worse than take a local product who reads the game well and is a developing intercept marker.

RICHMOND - Sam Hayes – Eastern Ranges, Victoria (Pick 17)

A premiership offers the club latitude not afforded to some rivals. Hayes has polarised the recruiting community with some believing he’ll be a star ruck/forward while others rate him doomed to fail.

At 203cm and 93kg, he is a strong body with enormous upside. It will be recalled the Dogs took skinny ruckman Tim English last year with the 19th pick and the Tigers might just follow suit given others are unlikely to take a ruck option early in the draft.

ST KILDA - Andrew Brayshaw – Sandringham Dragons, Victoria (Pick 7)

The Saints are desperate for class and Brayshaw is just that. Footy IQ is said to be through the roof, he can play inside and outside, and is touted as a big-game player.

Pressure is on St Kilda to deliver with this pick and Brayshaw is one player that has fewer question marks than many.

SYDNEY - Jack Higgins – Oakleigh Chargers, Victoria (Pick 14)

The only glaring deficiency on the Swans list is a small forward with ultra competitiveness. Higgins is a super professional player and leader who prepares like an AFL player.

He has worked hard to be a more complete player with tackling pressure.

WEST COAST - Darcy Fogarty – Glenelg, South Australia (Pick 13)

An injury interrupted year might see the South Australian slip down the order and into the lap of West Coast. Lack of genuine pace might be a flag for the Eagles, but the club might not be willing pass up on a player who is a modern-day hulking midfielder who can kick goals, take a mark and can be a match-winner.

WESTERN BULLDOGS - Nicholas Coffield – Northern Knights, Victoria (Pick 9)

The Dogs have pure ball winning covered, but need speed on the outside, and Coffield is their man.

At 191cm he runs 2.89 seconds for 20 metres, is a precise kick and kicks goals. The loss of Jake Stringer gives rise to the Dogs looking for a playmaker forward of centre.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/10/31/every-clubs-best-draft-fit/

Surely Fogarty doesn't get to pick 13

 

[DraftBalta]

Surely Fogarty doesn't get to pick 13

Nah but I don't think you can read it like a mock draft, it's just best fit in an ideal world

 

[Hardas]

We don’t need intercept marking players that bad...

Yeah, surely Reid, Howe, Scharra and Langdon cover that for the foreseeable future.
Would've been great to wangle a 2nd round pick, but anyway, best available at 6, then best tall available later..

 

[Kilmo]

Feels like a weird draft. No one seems genuinely excited about many of the players. Are they all journeymen role-players or is it just a really even top 15?

If so I wonder why the club didn't trade down the draft order for two later picks. Based on Twomey's latest offering (with a grain of salt) we could have traded down to get say Bonar and Richards which sounds like it would have been a great haul.

Maybe we are targeting someone (as per the rumour) who will go top ten for sure. Though I am fully expecting hine to pick a hine special instead.

Maybe we tried to trade down but couldn't.

 

[DraftBalta]

Feels like a weird draft. No one seems genuinely excited about many of the players. Are they all journeymen role-players or is it just a really even top 15?

If so I wonder why the club didn't trade down the draft order for two later picks. Based on Twomey's latest offering (with a grain of salt) we could have traded down to get say Bonar and Richards which sounds like it would have been a great haul.

Maybe we are targeting someone (as per the rumour) who will go top ten for sure. Though I am fully expecting hine to pick a hine special instead.

Maybe we tried to trade down but couldn't.

That would have been sweet, but I think only Richmond and Brisbane had the appropriate picks and Tigers always going to use one on Naish and Lions would be holding one back for Balldenden

 

[loki04]

Feels like a weird draft. No one seems genuinely excited about many of the players. Are they all journeymen role-players or is it just a really even top 15?

If so I wonder why the club didn't trade down the draft order for two later picks. Based on Twomey's latest offering (with a grain of salt) we could have traded down to get say Bonar and Richards which sounds like it would have been a great haul.

Maybe we are targeting someone (as per the rumour) who will go top ten for sure. Though I am fully expecting hine to pick a hine special instead.

Maybe we tried to trade down but couldn't.

Every single player in this drafts top 10 has a ? on at least 1 aspect of their game...Even the top 3.

This is why the calls to trade out of next years draft which has players who already display genuine xfactor type talent and "star" potential are crazy calls.

Ian Hill for example at this stage in projection mocks have him at around pick 10, yet he made this draft class look silly as a skinny underager. Has a bag of tricks, very good pace with brilliant foot skills. Would be a perfect fit for Wells replacement very similar in ilk. Fwiw I find it hard to believe there are 10 better then him imo will go top 5 with Rankine, Lukosiuos and the Kings so long as none stall.

 

[sr36]

The tough decision is going to be if Cerra or Stephenson slip. It would be hard to ignore, but I don't think either are a need.

.

I'd take Cerra. I'd always go best available when it comes to early picks. We often think too short term when we think about drafting for needs. It's gotta be remembered that if Cerra does make it, his best years and probably the majority of his career will be played out after most of our other one-paced mids are retired.

 

[No SPIN]

Nah, it was reported over the course of a couple of months leading up to the trade period that several clubs were interested, but once he nominated GC as his destination that all became irrelevant.

Hines poor negotiating cost us, not lack of interest from other clubs.

Agree - that's why I'm happy Ned Guy has been appointed. You would expect a bloke that made a living by his ability to get deals done in the industry, is very well qualified to ensure we avoid getting unders for players in the future.

 

[loki04]

I'd take Cerra. I'd always go best available when it comes to early picks. We often think too short term when we think about drafting for needs. It's gotta be remembered that if Cerra does make it, his best years and probably the majority of his career will be played out after most of our other one-paced mids are retired.

There are going to be a few holes over the next 3 seasons. Reid, Pendles, Wells and Varcoe all will be either retired or looking at it being 32, 33, 35 and 33 respectively by then. Dunn being the other but McClarty should step in.

 

[jackcass]

Fogarty, then Coffield, for me.
Not convinced on Balta as I'm not sure what he will do really well at AFL-level.
Also, is Stephenson gonna kick it well enough, often enough?
Haven't seen anything of Bonar yet.

I've only seen the highlights reals available.

Agree, Balta the more speculative but I do like the way he goes about his footy and takes the game on, has a bit of x-factor about him.

Ditto Bonar and Stephenson. Think they could well end up being the pick of the litter.

 

[DraftBalta]

If anyone really knew anything a Dangerfield couldn't go at pick 10... there's always an element of lotto

 

[Dynamics]

If anyone really knew anything a Dangerfield couldn't go at pick 10... there's always an element of lotto

Very much so. In 5 years from now there will probably be one, maybe two players from this top 20 that we will all look back on and say damn, could have got that guy with our pick.

Bonar for example. He could be a superstar. Or his knee could blow out. It's still an educated guess.

 

[DopeMaster]

We could get crafty and pass on our number 6 selection. It would really throw a cat amongst the pigeons, and potentially bring about a state of confusion on which we could capitalise. Come pick 38 - BOOM! 'Welcome to Collingwood Tyler Brown.' Thoughts?

 

[Hong Kong Pie]

We could get crafty and pass on our number 6 selection. It would really throw a cat amongst the pigeons, and potentially bring about a state of confusion on which we could capitalise. Come pick 38 - BOOM! 'Welcome to Collingwood Tyler Brown.' Thoughts?

Astonishing.

 

[ottoman]

To all the people posting possible draft selections on this thread.
Has history not taught you anything?
Come draft day Hine will read out a name that no one has heard of and we will all be scratching our heads asking "who"?

 

[DraftBalta]

To all the people posting possible draft selections on this thread.
Has history not taught you anything?
Come draft day Hine will read out a name that no one has heard of and we will all be scratching our heads asking "who"?