News 2017 St Kilda in the media

[kosifantutti]

St Kilda Saints launch Next Generation Academy in Keysborough to boost multicultural and female player numbers

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...s/news-story/b42896cf44cb2efd4a7720ac506132f9

I hate it when they refer to us as "St Kilda Saints" It's just not right and it's happening more often in the press especially in headlines. I'm guessing it makes it easier to search but it just rubs me up the wrong way.

 

[kosifantutti]

Also good to see us pushing towards Hawthorn's traditional stronghold in Dingley.

 

[RWBlyf]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02...d-depth-puts-saints-behind-dees-in-top-eight/

 

[sauce_head]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02...d-depth-puts-saints-behind-dees-in-top-eight/

"Sam McClure agreed, and considers the Demons’ season will be a disappointment if they fail to secure a home elimination final, let alone make the top eight"

Well that would be unusual!

 

[Falchoon]

Also good to see us pushing towards Hawthorn's traditional stronghold in Dingley.

well they currently train out at noble park north, so we're cutting their lunch either way.

 

[Significant]

"Sam McClure agreed, and considers the Demons’ season will be a disappointment if they fail to secure a home elimination final, let alone make the top eight"

Well that would be unusual!

He does love them doesn't he? But I thought he was a Blues man...

 

[Sir Skid]

AFL website has a "Who"s goingbto have a breakout season" article.

Not one Saint on the list.

I'm thinking 4 or 5

 

[RoundCubic]

AFL website has a "Who"s goingbto have a breakout season" article.

Not one Saint on the list.

I'm thinking 4 or 5

Jack Steele is a Saint

 

[Sir Skid]

Jack Steele is a Saint

Lol. How did i miss that

 

[karaoke]

AFL website has a "Who"s goingbto have a breakout season" article.

Not one Saint on the list.

I'm thinking 4 or 5

There was one from early in the new year about who was going to breakout according to Champion Data.

Gresham made that list of 5 players.

 

[Stewart66]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02...d-depth-puts-saints-behind-dees-in-top-eight/

Very happy to be underrated .

Really the media just follow like sheep.

Injuries to key players will determine how you go.

Eg Mumford goes down GWS will be stuffed.
Dangerfield goes down Cats are stuffed
Franklin goes down Swans struggle
Josh Kennedy goes down Eagles are stuffed.

The thing I like approaching this year Stkilda has really good depth all over the ground not reliant on one player.

Listening to the players they are all in great shape at the saints this year.

Just saying , what happens if Acres , Gresham , Steele , Billings & Freeman really come on this year .

Game Over.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Very happy to be underrated .

Really the media just follow like sheep.

Injuries to key players will determine how you go.

Eg Mumford goes down GWS will be stuffed.
Dangerfield goes down Cats are stuffed
Franklin goes down Swans struggle
Josh Kennedy goes down Eagles are stuffed.

The thing I like approaching this year Stkilda has really good depth all over the ground not reliant on one player.

Listening to the players they are all in great shape at the saints this year.

Just saying , what happens if Acres , Gresham , Steele , Billings & Freeman really come on this year .

Game Over.

This.
Does anyone care if Leigh Montagna doesn't get up for round 1?
Its Leigh Montagna , and we don't give a rat's tossbag, because the player that comes in won't be that far behind.

 

[sammm]

https://audioboom.com/posts/5633927-dav ... e-run-home

Armitage on SEN

 

[gringo2011]

This.
Does anyone care if Leigh Montagna doesn't get up for round 1?
Its Leigh Montagna , and we don't give a rat's tossbag, because the player that comes in won't be that far behind.

Leigh usually gets himself suspended for round 1 anyway so just business as usual.

 

[maanco]

There was one from early in the new year about who was going to breakout according to Champion Data.

Gresham made that list of 5 players.

Link me please

 

[karaoke]

Link me please

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...b/news-story/a50210de1ea75e8ec7b0847c5be0685b

 

[sammm]

https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=94357

Episode Notes
Episode 4 of The Outer Sanctum is here. This week we catch up with Adelaide coach Bec Goddard, who reveals a surprising reason why her playing group are so cohesive. We also chat to St Kilda CEO Matt Finnis about his club's commitment to equality, diversity and inclusion.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

There was one from early in the new year about who was going to breakout according to Champion Data.

Gresham made that list of 5 players.

Most players start to breakout in their 4th year therefore I think it is too early for Gresh - a year or two. Billings is the one this year. I'm hoping Acres and Steele but I think maybe one more year for Acres....

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02/23/why-dees-saints-face-uphill-battle-to-make-finals/

interesting article - we have the worst % of winning interstate in the AFL - a measly 10%

Winning away from home is the sizeable hurdle standing between improvers Melbourne and St Kilda and September action.

Despite many pundits predicting that the Saints and Demons' continued improvement will result in finals appearances, each club’s woeful interstate records are a sobering reminder how difficult the task might be.

Melbourne has not played finals in more than a decade, while the Saints last made a finals appearance in 2011.

From a combined total of 38 interstate games over the past three seasons, the Saints and Demons have won six between them.

St Kilda’s 2-18 record represents a 10% winning road percentage – the worst in the AFL behind Carlton (2-15, 11%) and Essendon (3-13, 18.75%).

In 2016 the Saints suffered a 103-point humiliation at the hand of West Coast in Perth, then four weeks later were belted by the Crows to the tune of 88 points.

Alan Richardson's team had an average losing margin outside Victoria last season of 53 points.

As for Melbourne, the Demons road form improvement in 2016, winning three of its seven interstate fixtures last season, having won only one of its previous 11.

At the other end of the scale are league heavyweights Sydney who have won 24 their 30 (80%) interstate matches since 2014, while powerhouse Hawthorn is 20-7 (74%).

While there is no such thing as an eight-point game, there is no doubt road wins are worth their weight in gold in modern footy.

How your team fares on their travels this year will likely decide the final resting place come the completion of the home and away season.

Each club's home and away interstate record 2014-2016
Club P W L %
Adelaide Crows 30 16 14 53.33%
Brisbane Lions 30 6 24 20.00%
Carlton 17 2 15 11.76%
Collingwood 15 6 9 40.00%
Essendon 16 3 13 18.75%
Fremantle 30 13 17 43.33%
Geelong Cats 15 8 7 53.33%
Gold Coast Suns 27 4 23 14.81%
GWS Giants 39 18 21 46.15%
Hawthorn 27 20 7 74.07%
Melbourne 18 4 14 22.22%
North Melbourne 24 15 9 62.50%
Port Adelaide 30 16 14 53.33%
Richmond 18 10 8 55.56%
St Kilda 20 2 18 10.00%
Sydney Swans 30 24 6 80.00%
West Coast Eagles 29 16 13 55.17%
Western Bulldogs 17 7 10 41.18%

 

[Periphery]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02/23/why-dees-saints-face-uphill-battle-to-make-finals/

interesting article - we have the worst % of winning interstate in the AFL - a measly 10%

Winning away from home is the sizeable hurdle standing between improvers Melbourne and St Kilda and September action.

Despite many pundits predicting that the Saints and Demons' continued improvement will result in finals appearances, each club’s woeful interstate records are a sobering reminder how difficult the task might be.

Melbourne has not played finals in more than a decade, while the Saints last made a finals appearance in 2011.

From a combined total of 38 interstate games over the past three seasons, the Saints and Demons have won six between them.

St Kilda’s 2-18 record represents a 10% winning road percentage – the worst in the AFL behind Carlton (2-15, 11%) and Essendon (3-13, 18.75%).

In 2016 the Saints suffered a 103-point humiliation at the hand of West Coast in Perth, then four weeks later were belted by the Crows to the tune of 88 points.

Alan Richardson's team had an average losing margin outside Victoria last season of 53 points.

As for Melbourne, the Demons road form improvement in 2016, winning three of its seven interstate fixtures last season, having won only one of its previous 11.

At the other end of the scale are league heavyweights Sydney who have won 24 their 30 (80%) interstate matches since 2014, while powerhouse Hawthorn is 20-7 (74%).

While there is no such thing as an eight-point game, there is no doubt road wins are worth their weight in gold in modern footy.

How your team fares on their travels this year will likely decide the final resting place come the completion of the home and away season.

Each club's home and away interstate record 2014-2016
Club P W L %
Adelaide Crows 30 16 14 53.33%
Brisbane Lions 30 6 24 20.00%
Carlton 17 2 15 11.76%
Collingwood 15 6 9 40.00%
Essendon 16 3 13 18.75%
Fremantle 30 13 17 43.33%
Geelong Cats 15 8 7 53.33%
Gold Coast Suns 27 4 23 14.81%
GWS Giants 39 18 21 46.15%
Hawthorn 27 20 7 74.07%
Melbourne 18 4 14 22.22%
North Melbourne 24 15 9 62.50%
Port Adelaide 30 16 14 53.33%
Richmond 18 10 8 55.56%
St Kilda 20 2 18 10.00%
Sydney Swans 30 24 6 80.00%
West Coast Eagles 29 16 13 55.17%
Western Bulldogs 17 7 10 41.18%

Looking at a simple win:loss ratio doesn't really tell the whole story. It doesn't elaborate on the quality of the opposition faced interstate in comparison to how the team was performing at the time. IMO it's probably more a reflection of where each team has been in overall performance over that time.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Looking at a simple win:loss ratio doesn't really tell the whole story. It doesn't elaborate on the quality of the opposition faced interstate in comparison to how the team was performing at the time. IMO it's probably more a reflection of where each team has been in overall performance over that time.

This

We were spanked by WestCoast and Adelaide. Not sure it would have made a difference where we played them.
We lost to GC, this is the one where i'd have liked to see us do better.
We lost to Port and Hawks because the umpires are cheats.
We didn't play Freo or Brisbane interstate, where we probably would have beaten them anyway.

 

[Smoke_Me_AKipper]

Looking at a simple win:loss ratio doesn't really tell the whole story. It doesn't elaborate on the quality of the opposition faced interstate in comparison to how the team was performing at the time. IMO it's probably more a reflection of where each team has been in overall performance over that time.

Very true but we did beat Geelong and Bulldogs last year and have done over similar ranked teams in previous years. Just haven't done it on the road although we went close a couple of times in Adelaide from memory

 

[sammm]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...b/news-story/6ac38c602c9bff015ae805832e1fdc61

 

[freebloke]

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2017/02/23/why-dees-saints-face-uphill-battle-to-make-finals/

interesting article - we have the worst % of winning interstate in the AFL - a measly 10%

Winning away from home is the sizeable hurdle standing between improvers Melbourne and St Kilda and September action.

Despite many pundits predicting that the Saints and Demons' continued improvement will result in finals appearances, each club’s woeful interstate records are a sobering reminder how difficult the task might be.

Melbourne has not played finals in more than a decade, while the Saints last made a finals appearance in 2011.

From a combined total of 38 interstate games over the past three seasons, the Saints and Demons have won six between them.

St Kilda’s 2-18 record represents a 10% winning road percentage – the worst in the AFL behind Carlton (2-15, 11%) and Essendon (3-13, 18.75%).

In 2016 the Saints suffered a 103-point humiliation at the hand of West Coast in Perth, then four weeks later were belted by the Crows to the tune of 88 points.

Alan Richardson's team had an average losing margin outside Victoria last season of 53 points.

As for Melbourne, the Demons road form improvement in 2016, winning three of its seven interstate fixtures last season, having won only one of its previous 11.

At the other end of the scale are league heavyweights Sydney who have won 24 their 30 (80%) interstate matches since 2014, while powerhouse Hawthorn is 20-7 (74%).

While there is no such thing as an eight-point game, there is no doubt road wins are worth their weight in gold in modern footy.

How your team fares on their travels this year will likely decide the final resting place come the completion of the home and away season.

Each club's home and away interstate record 2014-2016
Club P W L %
Adelaide Crows 30 16 14 53.33%
Brisbane Lions 30 6 24 20.00%
Carlton 17 2 15 11.76%
Collingwood 15 6 9 40.00%
Essendon 16 3 13 18.75%
Fremantle 30 13 17 43.33%
Geelong Cats 15 8 7 53.33%
Gold Coast Suns 27 4 23 14.81%
GWS Giants 39 18 21 46.15%
Hawthorn 27 20 7 74.07%
Melbourne 18 4 14 22.22%
North Melbourne 24 15 9 62.50%
Port Adelaide 30 16 14 53.33%
Richmond 18 10 8 55.56%
St Kilda 20 2 18 10.00%
Sydney Swans 30 24 6 80.00%
West Coast Eagles 29 16 13 55.17%
Western Bulldogs 17 7 10 41.18%

Basically, saints play a Docklands/mcg type style.

Not suitable for long grounds such as Kardinia Park, Subiaco and Adelaide Oval.

For these types of grounds, saints need to play a more direct long kicking game and tonnes of skill improvements.

The Bulldogs against West Coast were peerless in their kicking in the finals.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Basically, saints play a Docklands/mcg type style.

Not suitable for long grounds such as Kardinia Park, Subiaco and Adelaide Oval.

For these types of grounds, saints need to play a more direct long kicking game and tonnes of skill improvements.

The Bulldogs against West Coast were peerless in their kicking in the finals.

Docklands is 159.5 long.
Adelaide is 167.
Kardinia is 170.
MCG is 171.
Subiaco 175.

If the game style is suitable fo MCG and Docklands , not sure why not suitable for the others.