List Mgmt. 2017 Trade/Draft/FA SuperMegaUltra Thread - Post Trade-Period Edition

[flamingEMBERS]

Look i don't mind dabbling in the occasional joke at Marsdens expense..

But even in 2018 i'd say he's still ranked higher than Karpany, Cole and Nelson as far as being a midfielder goes.

Yeaaaaaah-nah
**** that turd right off

 

[amazingjoshy]

Got a feeling that freo might jump at Ryan with pick 60

If he's available they be mad not to. More talent in his left pinky toe than anyone else available at that stage

 

[Chris_6678]

Clarke is coming in as ruck coach. He will show Nic nat how to ruck properly.

 

[GoldenEagle]

From Zookata's phantom draft he has WCE picking:

13. Constable
21. Oscar Allen
26. Brayden Ainsworth
32. Dylan Moore
37. Andrew Mcpherson

No real surprise with the first 2 picks- fair-good chance of that being correct.

The last 3 are interesting though as they are all names I don't recall seeing mentioned yet on this thread (3000+ posts).

Those in the know- what do you make of these 3 kids and would WCE be looking at them?

Yuck... Don't mind Allen @ 21 but Ainsworth at 26 is reaching would be more like pick 37 as an over ager. Moore would be more like a 3rd or 4th round prospect as he is a long way off being afl ready he would get hammered. Can't say i've ever noticed Mcpherson or seen watched him play so i wont comment on that selection.

 

[Obeanie1]

Where did you get those rankings from???

They are my rankings.

 

[Bacchus]

I don't get the take Kelly at 26 because Carlton might take him at 30 argument.

Do we take worpel at 21 also if there are rumors that Geelong might take him at 22.

Who cares what other clubs are doing, at 26 we take the player we rate the most, not the player we fear might be taken by another club . If kelly is deemed avilable at 26 then so be it, but if there is a better option (i.e. Zac Bailey) then I sure do hope we take him.

If teams want a certain player then they have to take into account what other teams are doing. If we want Kelly then we have to take him before pick 30 or face the likelihood of missing out on him. This will be the case even if Kelly is generally rated lower in the thirties or even lower. If teams are not fussed about particular players then they don't worry about what others are doing, but choose from those still left. But I think this would rarely be the case in the early rounds. If we want Ryan then I think we will need to take him before pick 69.

 

[eagle eyed]

Freo mates rekons Zac Clarke toured west coast lol.

Matthew Lloyd likes this

 

[amazingjoshy]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/th...s/news-story/cee26703cdbf8a2c49974da375f15477

14 of Kelly's 26 possessions per game average were contested for anyone questioning his inside ball winning ability.

Jon Marsh mentioned at the bottom of the article also.

 

[smilingassassin]

Christian is quicker than Starcevich, doesn’t play quite as tall (185cm) but plays gets more of the ball. He plays inside and out and attacks the goal face. If he’s not rookies this year I’d be aggressive in picking up if he translates that Colts form into Ressies/ League.

Starcevich is very much in the same pool. Late/ rookie.

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If Starcevich doesnt go by pick 37 he will not be there at 69 and that will be a bad error of judgement by our recruiters.

The under 18 All-Australian has been seriously underated. He has an excellent football brain, kicking is excellent, already has core body strength and is an aggressive tackler and comepitor. I rate him higher than Hunter Clarke who I have serious misgivings about.

 

[smilingassassin]

With the way Richmond played this year with smaller very speedy players that provide great pressure.
That is something Starcevich can do and does at colts level, his pressure is first class has super speed,
loves to tackle can take a mark and is so very hard at it.
The question on him has been his production as a mid.
But he has other strings to his bow so i think he can have a good afl career.
I would use pick 32 on him and would be happy.
I also believe wce are very interested in him due to his speed.

At last some common sense. Starcevich is a poential gun in our own backyard and if we miss out on him I will be seriously pissed off.

 

[Suma Magic]

In listening to the latest Twomey podcast.

Asked how likely that the following three last to pick 15:
- Constable: more likely than not
- Higgins: maybe 50/50 or better than 50/50 (he didn't give those odds just my assessment from his comments), cited GWS or Eagles as potentially being interested
- Clark: not likely, saw him in the 8-14 range

 

[Suma Magic]

Twomey on bonar:

Don't rate him top, and see him maybe going just outside the top 10.

 

[Suma Magic]

On Brayshaw:

Could go top 4.

 

[lewigie]

If Starcevich doesnt go by pick 37 he will not be there at 69 and that will be a bad error of judgement by our recruiters.

The under 18 All-Australian has been seriously underated. He has an excellent football brain, kicking is excellent, already has core body strength and is an aggressive tackler and comepitor. I rate him higher than Hunter Clarke who I have serious misgivings about.

Higher than Clark?? Interesting. What makes you say that?

Clark is a bolter, really might push into the top 8

 

[Chris_6678]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/th...s/news-story/cee26703cdbf8a2c49974da375f15477

14 of Kelly's 26 possessions per game average were contested for anyone questioning his inside ball winning ability.

Jon Marsh mentioned at the bottom of the article also.

I like the sound of Baker over Ryan... Baker sounds like he puts on pressure as forward with possible stints as a mid but i also worry he is just another version of Cripps.

 

[Suma Magic]

Twomey on...

Potential players in the mix at 13: Clark Higgins Richards coffield Naughton brander allen

Kelly's range: 22 onwards. Cats and west coast linked.

Starcavich: 20 onwards. Really mixed views from recruiters.

Ryan: west coast could be in the mix in the 30s or others in the 40s

Allen sliding to 21: unlikely but some possibility

Picks 7/8: coffield. Probably too early for Higgins. Clark in the mix. Brayshaw and Stephenson if they got through.

 

[Suma Magic]

Really hope we get Higgins at 13.

 

[Chris_6678]

Really hope we get Higgins at 13.

Same. There has been some reservations if he is a mid or a forward because of his height but i think under Mitchell i can see him becoming a really good mid.

 

[Suma Magic]

Same. There has been some reservations if he is a mid or a forward because of his height but i think under Mitchell i can see him becoming a really good mid.

Yeah 178cm is fine. Easily tall enough if he is good enough.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Really hope we get Higgins at 13.

Agree. Given Higgins at 13, I would then go the following:

21 - L Fogarty (fallback Bailey)
26 - Bailey (fallback Kelly)
32 - Coleman-Jones (fallback Worpel or Moore if CC-J not there)
37 - Worpel/Moore/Houlahan (assuming Coleman-Jones taken at 32, if another mid then go Taylor/Miller/Kreuger)

Then really open and too hard to What If but something like
69 - Schloithe or Hayden would be good picks giving some of the mature ready to battle
89 - Scott Jones as ruck support
Rookies - Banfield, England or a riskier option

 

[Dark Sharks]

Other boards don't rate Higgins as highly as we do i've noticed.

Knocks on his pace/height combination and exactly where he fits at AFL level. No questions from me, he's a Toby Green esque forward/mid and i'd jump at the opportunity to grab him.

 

[Tom_Thumb]

Ok genius, redo that draft keeping in mind that it was an open secret that Rioli didn't want to leave Melbourne and Adelaide were considered to have reached for Dangerfield especially since they overlooked Ebert who most people thought they'd take

Three of the four players drafted in 2007 have played 150+ games and one was a club B&F in 2012. The fourth was a talented but skinny project KPF who had an undisclosed medical condition that made it difficult to build the aerobic capacity for AFL

I know you hate Masten and he hasn't become the player we hoped but he's still had a better career than Morton, Myers and Palmer who were the others considered possibilities with our first pick

Plenty of ammunition to have a crack at our drafting in recent years but I don't think 2007 is part of it

Harry Taylor ( WA boy ), Alex Rance ( WA Boy ), Callan Ward, Easton Wood and Cale Hooker say hi Mr know it all.

 

[dajesmac]

I've had a sneaking suspicion Higgins will slide to our pick - and I'd love to take him: he'd be my first preference assuming Clark is gone.

GWS is our biggest threat there but if they take Richards we could get Higgins.

 

[Suma Magic]

"In the 33 games Champion Data has covered Higgins throughout his junior career, he has averaged 145 ranking points — the best average figure ever recorded by the AFL’s official number crunchers, beating Tom Rockliff’s record of 144."
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...r/news-story/9e9fbfa2ee6fe21c445a0ce3ba69fc55

 

[squashface]

**** me dead if Higgins slides to 13 that would be jizz worthy