2017 UK General Election - The Verdict: It's MAYDUP

[HairyO]

Do you understand the difference between minority goverment and coalition government?

Do you understand that its a few hours in and there is plenty of time to form a Coalition?

BTW is the Coalition legally binding or are both parties, and members as well, free to vote how they wish?

So what is the difference between a Coalition and a minority government which makes deals to get Legislation passed?

 

[Demons09]

Hopefully word gets out and people with this deadshit mentality stay away.

I reckon he's on the money where you live is only going to get worse before it gets better, btw you crossing the London Bridge these days.

 

[SBYM]

I reckon he's on the money where you live is only going to get worse before it gets better, btw you crossing the London Bridge these days.

Nah.

I'm hiding under the bed.

 

[Sainteric]

In the end the Tories will probably get back in, but Labour's manifesto showed that a modern socialist agenda

No i think they voted agains the tories, against scottish independence and alot dont like brexit. I dont think you make a case they voted for a modern socialist agenda (whatever that is? most of its at least 60 uears old)

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Lol

The actual magnitude of that decline is quite insignificant.


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[tandino]

With the abstaining MPs, will there be enough votes in the Commons to force them out?

It's hard for me to get the mathematics sorted in my head.

 

[Demons09]

Nah.

I'm hiding under the bed.

Good lad why take the risk eh.

 

[JackOutback]

The actual magnitude of that decline is quite insignificant.


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I know; the difference to my Book Depository order wasn't that great.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

I know; the difference to my Book Depository order wasn't that great.

Here I was thinking I could make a huge arbitrage profit.


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[Happy Mastenator]

2010 went the full distance. Why wouldnt this one?

There are deep divisions in the Conservative party on brexit alone, that is going to call all sorts of issues. They are completely hamstrung.

Would be surprised if they go 5 years. Very very surprised

 

[Sainteric]

With the abstaining MPs, will there be enough votes in the Commons to force them out?

It's hard for me to get the mathematics sorted in my head.

At the moment lab green and snp = 297 so you would think not even with the dems he doesnt get there

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Socialism is back on the march

 

[tandino]

At the moment lab green and snp = 297 so you would think not even with the dems he doesnt get there

So the Conservatives won, in the sense that they can't lose. Sort of.

 

[Pessimistic]

May will visit the queen

Suppose Madge turns her down?

 

[Forward Press]

Socialism is back on the march

It was always 'on the march' - for an Australian example, the Greens have been polling relatively strongly for quite some time now and is the undisputed biggest 'third party' here.

The public have flirted with drifting right but with Abbott getting knifed, Trump besieged (after only beating one of the worst Dem candidates in history) and 'unelectable' Jeremy Corbyn this close to being PM - the public are maybe thinking it's not that good after all despite all the bleating about terrorism and security. People just want jobs and a fair go.

It's a reversion to the mean.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

It was always 'on the march' - for an Australian example, the Greens have been polling relatively strongly for quite some time now and is the undisputed biggest 'third party' here.

The public have flirted with drifting right but with Abbott getting knifed, Trump besieged (after only beating one of the worst Dem candidates in history) and 'unelectable' Jeremy Corbyn this close to being PM - the public are maybe thinking it's not that good after all despite all the bleating about terrorism and security. People just want jobs and a fair go.

It's a reversion to the mean.

It's a bit of a misnomer to equate the Greens with socialism. Economically, they're far from socialists.

If I believed they were in any way close to socialist, I would vote them over Labor.

 

[Nankervis brothers]

Socialism is back on the march

It is back on the march, but don't expect either the conservative or liberal media to discuss this obvious fact.

Corbyn had the majority of his party (the 'Blairites') and the entire media (News Corp, and for many years liberal papers like the Guardian) campaign against him. The fourth estate told anyone who would listen that his Dem. Socialist platform was a noose around Labour's neck, and an open door to a massive election loss. Yet here we are, looking at a hung parliament. The UK has unambiguously voted against the Tories austerity, and a huge section of the population has voted for a Dem. Socialist led Labour Party. That's a fact. And that's a massive story, but no one will read much about it. What you will read about instead is who will replace May, various fluff pieces about Boris Johnson, and the seperate issue of Brexit. This is because our global media has two gears: right-wing conservative and liberal left. The recent return to Dem. Socialism, as embodied in Sanders and Corbyn, is such a challenge and threat to both arms of the media that it's left undiscussed.

Congratulations to Corbyn! It was clear years ago that his politics were what Labour members wanted, as opposed to Blair's New Labour. Now it's clear that his politics also have serious currency in the wider British community. He has completely stuck it up the fourth estate. And for that alone, I couldn't be happier (regardless of which way the hung parliament falls).

 

[Bomberboyokay]

May will visit the queen

Suppose Madge turns her down?

Why would she do that?

 

[FredLeDeux]

Why would she do that?

She wouldn't.
She would give May, as the incumbent and leader of the largest party, the first chance to form a coalition govt.
Or if, as the Telegraph is now reporting, May has "done a deal" with the DUP (presumably for parliamentary support without a formal coalition) she would probably consent to a minority govt unless and until it loses a motion of no confidence.
But it's largely uncharted waters; perhaps ERII will just throw up her hands and retire like her old man.

 

[Pessimistic]

It is back on the march, but don't expect either the conservative or liberal media to discuss this obvious fact.

Corbyn had the majority of his party (the 'Blairites') and the entire media (News Corp, and for many years liberal papers like the Guardian) campaign against him. The fourth estate told anyone who would listen that his Dem. Socialist platform was a noose around Labour's neck, and an open door to a massive election loss. Yet here we are, looking at a hung parliament. The UK has unambiguously voted against the Tories austerity, and a huge section of the population has voted for a Dem. Socialist led Labour Party. That's a fact. And that's a massive story, but no one will read much about it. What you will read about instead is who will replace May, various fluff pieces about Boris Johnson, and the seperate issue of Brexit. This is because our global media has two gears: right-wing conservative and liberal left. The recent return to Dem. Socialism, as embodied in Sanders and Corbyn, is such a challenge and threat to both arms of the media that it's left undiscussed.

Congratulations to Corbyn! It was clear years ago that his politics were what Labour members wanted, as opposed to Blair's New Labour. Now it's clear that his politics also have serious currency in the wider British community. He has completely stuck it up the fourth estate. And for that alone, I couldn't be happier (regardless of which way the hung parliament falls).

ALP here might be tempted to go for one nation vote

My pitch would be the govt has innocents locked up on Manaus while terrorists and would be terrorists roam free on the mainland

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I havent seen a power vacuum like this since after Russia was liberated from the Tsar in 1917.

And we all know how that finished up.

 

[darth_timon]

It is back on the march, but don't expect either the conservative or liberal media to discuss this obvious fact.

Corbyn had the majority of his party (the 'Blairites') and the entire media (News Corp, and for many years liberal papers like the Guardian) campaign against him. The fourth estate told anyone who would listen that his Dem. Socialist platform was a noose around Labour's neck, and an open door to a massive election loss. Yet here we are, looking at a hung parliament. The UK has unambiguously voted against the Tories austerity, and a huge section of the population has voted for a Dem. Socialist led Labour Party. That's a fact. And that's a massive story, but no one will read much about it. What you will read about instead is who will replace May, various fluff pieces about Boris Johnson, and the seperate issue of Brexit. This is because our global media has two gears: right-wing conservative and liberal left. The recent return to Dem. Socialism, as embodied in Sanders and Corbyn, is such a challenge and threat to both arms of the media that it's left undiscussed.

Congratulations to Corbyn! It was clear years ago that his politics were what Labour members wanted, as opposed to Blair's New Labour. Now it's clear that his politics also have serious currency in the wider British community. He has completely stuck it up the fourth estate. And for that alone, I couldn't be happier (regardless of which way the hung parliament falls).

Great post and on point too. That Corbyn has managed such a big result, despite the media and his own party working against him so hard, has provided him with a powerful platform going forward. The result is a blow to austerity.


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[FredLeDeux]

Great post and on point too. That Corbyn has managed such a big result, despite the media and his own party working against him so hard, has provided him with a powerful platform going forward. The result is a blow to austerity.


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In theory, yes.
In practice, no.
He still has no power, nada.
The left is still, and will remain, disfranchised, as it was by the Blair crooknocrats, and as it has been here in Australia for going on 50 years.

 

[Nankervis brothers]

ALP here might be tempted to go for one nation vote

My pitch would be the govt has innocents locked up on Manaus while terrorists and would be terrorists roam free on the mainland

Weird post. I don't see the connection you're making at all. Corbyn's Labour didn't go for the UKIP vote. Why would our ALP go for the One Nation vote? Strange comparison, and not related slightly to what my post was about.

 

[midorigreenwood]

Weird post. I don't see the connection you're making at all. Corbyn's Labour didn't go for the UKIP vote. Why would our ALP go for the One Nation vote? Strange comparison, and not related slightly to what may post was about.

The greens in the UK basically committed suicide so that Corbyn would have a chance.

A reflection of first past the post politics.