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Back on the draft/Henry discussion.
I can't see a possible scenario where we can get 3 picks in the top 12, there just doesn't seem any suitable swaps.
I think our best bet is to bank points and trade back in, after a Henry bid, if there's someone we rate.
Don't tell me I'm the only one that feels like Jackson will be one that we'll rue missing. Anyone got any thoughts on him?
Yeah the kid could be anything, every description I've read of him is absolutely glowing. Huge want for mine, if he's got the potential to play up forward there's no reason why he has to push out Darcy eithersuspect JLo is already keen on us selecting him by recent reporting...funny enough Justin was 196cm and Luke is 198cm..bit of similarity there I think. but Luke a bit more agile and athletic than Justin was.
As much as I’d like to have Jackson, I’m not sure he’s really what we need. The only way that would make sense would be if the club either doesn’t rate Darcy long term or thinks he’s going to go home at some point. Don’t thunk they could both fit in the same team (particularly with Lobb as well)
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Its definitely starting to look unlikely that we can get back into the top 12. To do it I think we need to swap a future 1st for a future 2nd and give up say pick 25 this year which is probs not worth it
I know Doggies will need points for next year but do Port or North? Can we do 9/10 and a future 2nd for 25 and a a future 1st?
There's not much incentive for the guys with a top 12 pick to trade into next year
Why does Tim Kelly have his own thread? He's not special, this could've all been discussed in the Trade/Draft thread.
If choices 4 to 20 are the same value, I'd still rather have pick 4 and 5 to have the options rather than picking 19 and 20 of whatever is left.
Yes because one of those will go on Henry...so choice (the two early picks 6 and 7) rather than extra picks ...say 10, 11, 19 and 20
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I am all for taking the most players we can in the top 30 but I don't see a great deal of value in the GWS pick swap. I hope we'll see the club trading back into the draft after a Henry bidI think a few are doing mental gymnastics trying to make sure we only gain picks before a Henry bid will come. An astute trader would still be looking at trades were we might get multiple picks (worth far more) than a single pick before the bid. To trade up the draft clubs pay a massive premium - it is never close to the points system value from what I have seen.
If we have #6, #7, #22, #26, #80 at draft time and a bid for Henry comes at 12 then we'll get two picks at 6 & 7 (eg Robertson, Stephens/Jackson), Henry and then both #22 and #26 will be consumed in matching the bid and we'd probably get back pick ~#34 (the points left over).
If we say trade #6 for say #12 and #18 (from GWS) and end up with #7, #12, #18, #22, #26, #80 at draft time and a bid for Henry comes after our 12 pick, we'll still end up with 2 picks before the bid at #7 and #12 (possible still Robertson or Stephens/Jackson available at #12). Then #18 would cover the Henry bid in full. So we'd have both picks available still at #22 & #26 (or whatever they'd be after bids shifts things). That's 5 players in the top 30 versus only 3 with our existing picks.
Not saying this will happen. But it's in the ball park of what could be possible.
Nick Dal Santo reckons we need a Zack Merrett type. Maybe he means this bloke
I reckon between 11-20What's the earliest people are expecting a Henry bid to come?
I'm assuming there is nothing stopping a club bidding on Henry just to make Fremantle burn a higher selection except that they'll get Henry if Fremantle choose not to match. He seems to be getting talked up more and more and is saying publicly at least he'd be happy to play anywhere, could fit a need at a lot of clubs.
Not me, not even interested in trying to make it work, no good at figures anyways. In Belly we trust.I think a few are doing mental gymnastics trying to make sure we only gain picks before a Henry bid will come. An astute trader would still be looking at trades were we might get multiple picks (worth far more) than a single pick before the bid. To trade up the draft clubs pay a massive premium - it is never close to the points system value from what I have seen.
If we have #6, #7, #22, #26, #80 at draft time and a bid for Henry comes at 12 then we'll get two picks at 6 & 7 (eg Robertson, Stephens/Jackson), Henry and then both #22 and #26 will be consumed in matching the bid and we'd probably get back pick ~#34 (the points left over).
If we say trade #6 for say #12 and #18 (from GWS) and end up with #7, #12, #18, #22, #26, #80 at draft time and a bid for Henry comes after our 12 pick, we'll still end up with 2 picks before the bid at #7 and #12 (possible still Robertson or Stephens/Jackson available at #12). Then #18 would cover the Henry bid in full. So we'd have both picks available still at #22 & #26 (or whatever they'd be after bids shifts things). That's 5 players in the top 30 versus only 3 with our existing picks.
Not saying this will happen. But it's in the ball park of what could be possible.
What's the earliest people are expecting a Henry bid to come?
I'm assuming there is nothing stopping a club bidding on Henry just to make Fremantle burn a higher selection except that they'll get Henry if Fremantle choose not to match. He seems to be getting talked up more and more and is saying publicly at least he'd be happy to play anywhere, could fit a need at a lot of clubs.
Would you spend a top 10 pick on a plan b because I imagine that's what they'll want for him given they currently would be paying him stuff all and has performed extremely wellOn Sam Taylor, and folk saying we don't need a KPD. I disagree. I have no faith in Pearce lasting a full season. Have heard he has bone density issues. We need a plan B
On Sam Taylor, and folk saying we don't need a KPD. I disagree. I have no faith in Pearce lasting a full season. Have heard he has bone density issues. We need a plan B