List Mgmt. 2020 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy

[Shadow89]

to get you have to give

nothing is for free and no reason for Geelong to feel a sense of entitlement

Tom Lynch.

 

[Danny88]

Hi, so multiple media sources are stating our interest in Cameron. Assuming we do move Treloar and get enough $$ to beat our Geelong's offer, are you likely to match? We had enough $$ to go after Dixon, Gunston, Kennedy before any of this Treloar talk, so if we do trade the latter, we should be able to offer $1 mil pa or even quite a bit more.

That nets you a 1st round compo, which is roughly a top 10 pick.

If not, I can potentially see us trading pick 5 for Cameron to GWS (from GC for Treloar), sure that's an upgrade on a 1st round compo, but that still wouldn't get you any of Mcdonald, Hollands, Phillips, Ugle-Hagan, Thilthorpe, who IMO are the clear 5 standouts in the draft (since Ugle-Hagan is going to WBD via academy).

I think the smartest way to go about it would be quite similar to what Richmond did with Lynch.

1. Cameron to Pies via FA - GWS receives Pick 10 (before dillusion)
2. Fringe player to Pies for Pick 14 or 2021 1st (whichever you like, we need to trade out both anyways)

This way you receive 2x 1st round picks instead of pick 5, which imo is better since the draft is said to be quite even outside of the big 5. This is mutually beneficial to both clubs, as a straight trade means the combined pie is smaller (neither of us gets any value from the compensation pick)

Yeah I like what you suggest. In the past we have had pretty a good relationship with you guys trading so it could happen.

but tbh my gut feel is that soooo much has to go your way for that to happen I just can’t see it happening

 

[GWS Goose]

I would opine that Jezza - like Caldwell - has not actually made a final decision (that's just going on general reporting). In Jezza's case, there's seemingly a monetary & lifestyle attraction to Cats but loyalty to us.

However, yes, we just need to know what's happening so we can move on.

Almost certainly, once they know , it is rare not to make it known. They like to control the narrative.

Yeah I like what you suggest. In the past we have had pretty a good relationship with you guys trading so it could happen.

but tbh my gut feel is that soooo much has to go your way for that to happen I just can’t see it happening

I feel the same. They wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't try and get the clear missing piece. But a lot has to go right (which may happen) for Collingwood.

 

[PMBangers]

If not, I can potentially see us trading pick 5 for Cameron to GWS (from GC for Treloar), sure that's an upgrade on a 1st round compo, but that still wouldn't get you any of Mcdonald, Hollands, Phillips, Ugle-Hagan, Thilthorpe, who IMO are the clear 5 standouts in the draft (since Ugle-Hagan is going to WBD via academy).

If the picks before ours went like that I'm confident we'd just take DGB, position of need with capacity to play from Round 1 2021

 

[Mr Magic]

Would GWS consider trading Cameron for Treloar??

If Cameron goes the soul at GWS is not hit as much if Treloar comes back? in the same window, chance to reshape the list and get the team to gel in a different way with belief they are still going to get their but via a different path at the club. Don't know the dynamic but something needs to change and exit trend needs to be disrupted and ideally blunted

Its strange how some said Shaw had a mental breakdown apparently at North, not sure if true or not. North's list is so far behind the 8 ball there should be no pressure.

GWS on the other hand have plenty to work with if shaped astutely

 

[GWS Goose]

Would GWS consider trading Cameron for Treloar??

If Cameron goes the soul at GWS is not hit as much if Treloar comes back? in the same window, chance to reshape the list and get the team to gel in a different way with belief they are still going to get their but via a different path at the club. Don't know the dynamic but something needs to change and exit trend needs to be disrupted and ideally blunted

Its strange how some said Shaw had a mental breakdown apparently at North, not sure if true or not. North's list is so far behind the 8 ball there should be no pressure.

GWS on the other hand have plenty to work with if shaped astutely

We wouldn't take Treloar for Cameron. He probably wouldnt be interested either.

I also think it is unlikely that Cameron would want to go to Collingwood. but stranger things have happened I guess.

 

[Colonial]

Would GWS consider trading Cameron for Treloar??

If Cameron goes the soul at GWS is not hit as much if Treloar comes back? in the same window, chance to reshape the list and get the team to gel in a different way with belief they are still going to get their but via a different path at the club. Don't know the dynamic but something needs to change and exit trend needs to be disrupted and ideally blunted

Its strange how some said Shaw had a mental breakdown apparently at North, not sure if true or not. North's list is so far behind the 8 ball there should be no pressure.

GWS on the other hand have plenty to work with if shaped astutely

I doubt it considering we are overdone in the Midfield.

As for the soul part, I think while it would hurt fans it wouldn’t effect the club overall in the grand scheme of things.

We were always going to lose multiple big stars, we were expected to lose a lot more, but we have kept the majority of who we wanted.

 

[Mr Magic]

I doubt it considering we are overdone in the Midfield.

As for the soul part, I think while it would hurt fans it wouldn’t effect the club overall in the grand scheme of things.

We were always going to lose multiple big stars, we were expected to lose a lot more, but we have kept the majority of who we wanted.

What makes you think you are over done in the midfield?

You might have some numbers but it is not gelling at the moment.

You do not want GWS to be like North were they overplayed there hand and overrated their list??

Another option is to get Treloar, keep Cameron and trade out Coniglio to Freo.

That way with Treloar you have a bonafide inside mid top liner you currently do not have and the team can be reshaped with parts that can gel into a team.

At the moment GWS does not have a bona fide top line inside mid to work with.

Even Kelly is quasi inside/outside even though he is a top liner and Toby is a hybrid who goes forward as well. Even Taranto is a bit of a hybrid. Whitfield should settle into a wing/flanker role complimenting bona fide inside mids. Treloar should help improve the output and effect of the likes of Whitfield and Kelly

Williams is going, you lost Shiel, so GWS could use Treloar's speed and size. Treloar should compliment the likes of Hopper and others. He is familiar with the club and some players. His partner is going to Brisbane for next year, Sydney is closer and GWS is a better fit than Gold Coast window wise arguably at least for the next two to three years at least and it should be easier for him to settle there in familar surroundings

If you get Treloar should help the club attract other players from other clubs with credentials.

Otherwise GWS has talent, with bits of pieces here and there that don't really mesh that well seemingly so why would other possible players think GWS is going to necessarily surge forward in the premiership window if seemingly they have reversed in recent years unless GWS is proactive in reshaping the trajectory and addresses perceived obstacles that have arisen?

 

[SouthernGiant]

Jezza Gone!!!

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Jezza Gone!!!

Yep

 

[dlanod]

**** **** ****ity ****

Just saw it on Facebook.

 

[Colonial]

Adios, enjoy the coin.

 

[dlanod]

If Geelong wins on the weekend and Cameron joins them, do they get trade banned?

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Obvious you would expect us to match to get the best deal possible

 

[SouthernGiant]

Disappointing, been very well paid for six years then continues to chase the cash.
At least the club will be able to tidy up the salary cap issues.

 

[Colonial]

Disappointing, been very well paid for six years then continues to chase the cash.
At least the club will be able to tidy up the salary cap issues.

Exactly

Our cap issues are gone in one season.

I’m actually not as upset as I thought I would be.

 

[GWS Goose]

This sucks. I thought he'd stay.
We will no longer have salary cap issues.

 

[dlanod]

Obvious you would expect us to match to get the best deal possible

I think you mean threaten to match. If an offer is actually lodged and then matched, the only options are him staying or the draft.

 

[GWS Goose]

Exactly

Our cap issues are gone in one season.

I’m actually not as upset as I thought I would be.

Wish I could say I wasnt as upset as I thought I'd be. I feel awful. I thought he was a lifer.

 

[Colonial]

Wish I could say I wasnt as upset as I thought I'd be. I feel awful. I thought he was a lifer.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

On a side issue we might want to have a rethink on giving life membership after just 150 games.

 

[dlanod]

Wish I could say I wasnt as upset as I thought I'd be. I feel awful. I thought he was a lifer.

Same boat here. A real gut punch.

Maybe. I don't begrudge him it. Sounded like he was pretty settled up here though, hence the surprise.

 

[Pres]

On a issue we might want to have a rethink on giving life membership after just 150 games.

Cooper Cronk had it right. Elevated him into the leadership group and 12 months later he's gone!

I seriously don't believe there is a salary cap system in force anymore. How can Geelong at the peak of their powers, playing off in a GF and having been in the finals basically every year for a decade somehow bring in the highest paid player in the game?

 

[Orangeutan]

There goes his chance for legacy and loyalty points.
At least it's Geelong and not Collingwood.

 

[Colonial]

Cooper Cronk had it right. Elevated him into the leadership group and 12 months later he's gone!

I seriously don't believe there is a salary cap system in force anymore. How can Geelong at the peak of their powers, playing off in a GF and having been in the finals basically every year for a decade somehow bring in the highest paid player in the game?

Sponsorships in a football city. Hense the push for cola back here.


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[Colonial]

Lol

At least it’s not the Captain.


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