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List Mgmt. 2020 List Management: Contracts, Trading, Drafting, Academy
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I am going to sit on any predictions for the defensive set up for 2021 until I see where our final DFA & draft selections sit.
If we go and get Shane Savage, I'd be surprised if it was just as 'depth' when we've lost so much experience down back. Whether or not we would put him and Lachie down back I'm not so sure ... there's a couple of permutations that could come into play depending on what else happens.
I think it will be difficult to pick up two decent KPDs this year, due to limited number of quality options, and others after them. Whether they play next year or are developing for 1-2 years will depend on who they are.
If we trade up to say Hawthorn's pick (which IMHO would be the earliest one for sale with what we've got), they we might get DGB - if we're even targeting a tall. If we're after Hollands or Phillips, then we'll really struggle to draft a KPD. Perhaps someone like Callow at 20 or 29 might be there. If we got DGB, though, I expect he'd play from round 1 essentially straight into Corr's vacated position (though Taylor, provided he's fit, would pick up the KPD #2 role). If that was the case, I would not see the need for another tall, and come back next year to pick up someone who slides in at the bottom of the pile when Davis retires in a few years.
If we take Heath Chapman, with our #10 or #13 pick, and if Reid or Cox was still there at our #15 pick, then maybe we'd grab them as a direct replacement in a couple of years (as Chapman won't replace Davis).
I can see a number of permutations depending on what we end up with.
And yes ... sign Lachie Ash up as soon as possible in the new year as a priority.
If we go and get Shane Savage, I'd be surprised if it was just as 'depth' when we've lost so much experience down back. Whether or not we would put him and Lachie down back I'm not so sure ... there's a couple of permutations that could come into play depending on what else happens.
I think it will be difficult to pick up two decent KPDs this year, due to limited number of quality options, and others after them. Whether they play next year or are developing for 1-2 years will depend on who they are.
If we trade up to say Hawthorn's pick (which IMHO would be the earliest one for sale with what we've got), they we might get DGB - if we're even targeting a tall. If we're after Hollands or Phillips, then we'll really struggle to draft a KPD. Perhaps someone like Callow at 20 or 29 might be there. If we got DGB, though, I expect he'd play from round 1 essentially straight into Corr's vacated position (though Taylor, provided he's fit, would pick up the KPD #2 role). If that was the case, I would not see the need for another tall, and come back next year to pick up someone who slides in at the bottom of the pile when Davis retires in a few years.
If we take Heath Chapman, with our #10 or #13 pick, and if Reid or Cox was still there at our #15 pick, then maybe we'd grab them as a direct replacement in a couple of years (as Chapman won't replace Davis).
I can see a number of permutations depending on what we end up with.
And yes ... sign Lachie Ash up as soon as possible in the new year as a priority.
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Excellent win/win that one.
We move up essentially for free, they get a some extra points for JUH
We move up essentially for free, they get a some extra points for JUH
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I had the Giants when I joined the Lystics Podcast for their annual mock draft. I’m not overly happy with how I went with some players I really wanted not available. Here is a link and the players I took
Pick 10 O’Driscoll
Pick 13 Henry
Pick 15 Maher
Pick 20 Ford
Pick 29 Heath
Pick 52 Fleeton
Pick 10 O’Driscoll
Pick 13 Henry
Pick 15 Maher
Pick 20 Ford
Pick 29 Heath
Pick 52 Fleeton
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So this means we are taking a DFA or a PSD pick?
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That's different to many I've seen. I've seen a number have O'Drisoll and Henry come our way, the rest is a little different
I reckon in a mock draft with everyone who knows what they are doing it would be harder than it is for the actual draft teams. They'd have more knowledge about what other clubs are likely to do than you guys. Harder to know what is likely to be available around the time you select.
I like Reid a lot off the highlights given it doesn’t look like we will be able to trade up. I think Essendon might grab him though. Love the way he uses the ball. Perkins looks high risk/reward. Bruhn could be around the mark. We are in spots where we could benefit from sliders as teams like Adelaide often go left of centre.
Pies’ plans for draft curveball as Dons plot top-10 trade with rival: AFL Draft Whispers
Pies’ plans for draft curveball as Dons plot top-10 trade with rival: Draft Whispers
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I'd be happy with both of those if we can also get Reid or Chapman
Pies’ plans for draft curveball as Dons plot top-10 trade with rival: AFL Draft Whispers
Pies’ plans for draft curveball as Dons plot top-10 trade with rival: Draft Whispers
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Outside chance he gets to 10 (which will probably be 12 or 13)
Bailey Laurie...looks a bit like Dev Smith off the vision with his zippyness,kicking style and stature. Don’t mind him, looks an AFL style player.
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I am with you in being disappointed at those picks.
Nick Cox & Heath Chapman both available at that first pick for GWS, who would fill one of the holes in our defensive line which should be an absolute need for GWS - much more than yet another inside (defensive) mid with poor disposal IMHO.
Maher is well early - don't mind him as a player filling a GWS need: but not at #15 - I'd take Jack Carroll ahead of him: able to play out of the half back defensive line initially and progress into a balanced midfielder later; probably the perfect result for us IMHO.
I don't really rate Ford that highly, but in the context of other picks, don't mind taking a risk (high risk but potentially high reward) with the fourth selection. This is where I'd see Maher in contention for real.
I don't see a need for Heath, GWS has plenty of ruck options having brought Preuss in, with Flynn & Briggs developing - what we've missed out on iwith these selections is any KPD - where we're actually deficient IMHO.
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No, not needing to but still possible: we have 31 players and a minimum of 36 main list spots to fill - so the 5 picks we have fits with that. The last two spots would be Reid plus one - we could just re-select Sproule (as we've said we might). But we could take a DFA such as as Savage on either the main list or rookie list for the 42nd spot on our list. Alternatively, we could also just leave the spot vacant.
I never expected that we'd use pick 52 anyway.
If we trade two (or more) picks for a single earlier selection, then we'd be committed to taking a DFA as we'd be short of the 36 main list requirement.
Finlay Macrae - How dual sided is this kid! Must be ambidextrous.
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Twomey's final phantom guide which links a few players to various clubs such as:
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Dogs will be after him in a couple of years.
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So, if I could have my way with the draft ... an unlikely but not completely impossible outcome for (IMHO) perceived needs would be:
I like Jack Carroll: a December birthdate says he's likely to have lots of upside on a good starting point. He should be the #15 selection on needs, and if both Reid and Cox were gone, I would. Able to play HBF initially, so if Kennedy or Cumming can't seal a spot as Zac's replacement, he could come into calculations quite quickly. And the upside would be an ability to go into a balanced midfielder role in the future. Then there would be plenty of options for the last pick IMHO. We could look at a small/medium forward based on replacing Zac Langdon, or another midfielder to replace Jackson Hately (but I'd tend to go outside or another balanced mid given how we used Hately, or at least a mid with speed), or a utility/multi-role player.
So now, recruiting team, don't **** this up. It's an important draft for us!
- Heath Chapman - can replace Corr in defence but provide precision kicking and running rebound from D50, able to play round 1 2021 IMHO
- Finlay Macrae - essentially replaces Jye Caldwell as inside/outside midfielder, not zippy but composed & dual sided kicker with good decision-making
- Zach Reid - will take a couple of years to fully develop as a KPD, but that timeframe fits with Keeffe then Davis likely wind-down/retirement
- Jack Carroll - some zip, good in the contest, courageous, precision kicking and good decision-making; can start on HBF (so possible Zac W replacement) but considered likely to develop into an inside/outside midfielder
- last pick 'd be happy to reach a bit for X-factor: so a bid on Errol Gulden, Eddie Ford if he's still there, Isiah Winder or Brodie Lake; other options would be Bailey Laurie, Brayden Cook, Zavier Maher, Caleb Poulter, Jack Ginnivan
I like Jack Carroll: a December birthdate says he's likely to have lots of upside on a good starting point. He should be the #15 selection on needs, and if both Reid and Cox were gone, I would. Able to play HBF initially, so if Kennedy or Cumming can't seal a spot as Zac's replacement, he could come into calculations quite quickly. And the upside would be an ability to go into a balanced midfielder role in the future. Then there would be plenty of options for the last pick IMHO. We could look at a small/medium forward based on replacing Zac Langdon, or another midfielder to replace Jackson Hately (but I'd tend to go outside or another balanced mid given how we used Hately, or at least a mid with speed), or a utility/multi-role player.
So now, recruiting team, don't **** this up. It's an important draft for us!
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I know he’s not in our reckoning but with all the hype I decided to watch these Jamarra Ugle-Hagan highlights.
He really looks very classy, good overhead, moves nicely, reliable left boot.
Have to say though he really reminds me much more of a considerably better version of Jeremy Finlayson than Buddy Franklin. All his mannerisms are similar to Finlayson, it’s like watching a clone (other than the chase down tackle
).They are getting a good one no doubt but he’s no Franklin, different style of player.
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The Franklin comparisons are lazy and borderline racist tbh, much better comparison is Josh Kennedy imo, or, and dogs fans wouldn't want to hear it, a little Josh Schache about him
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This would be a dream draft, only thing I'd personally nitpick is I want Bruhn over Macrae is available, same amount of class, athleticism (or lack of) and damage but better at winning ball and kicking goals.
That last pick, I'm liking Lake as an option (Adrian if you're reading this please choose him), super athlete that's played just about every position on field to a good quality at SANFL level, probably a reach at the pick number it'll end up being but as a development project there are worse options being touted at higher picks
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AFL draft state of play: Why clubs are jostling to secure top-20 bolter
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If in our mix we ended up with Reid, Perkins and Laurie I think it would be a nice haul.
Spare a thought for those guys! Who's a flight risk, who's a mummy's boy, who's not?
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