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to get you have to give
nothing is for free and no reason for Geelong to feel a sense of entitlement
I must have missed those games.I've seen him play well when he's been a #1 option in a few games for North.
Yep. Preuss will be the auto second choice now in 2021 behind Mumford.is this an indictment that we dont think the young rucks have it.
Im not sure it as bad as that either!I can not even begin to describe my disappointment, what a boring and uninspired trade choice. Truly hope he proves me wrong, but we're a team that operates best when we're focusing on winning clearances, how does an average ruckman help us get back to that?
What? Who did you want playing ruck?I can not even begin to describe my disappointment, what a boring and uninspired trade choice. Truly hope he proves me wrong, but we're a team that operates best when we're focusing on winning clearances, how does an average ruckman help us get back to that?
I'm of the thought that we should've backed in Flynn and Briggs to overtake Mumford as guys that'd be even cheaper than Preuss and cost us 0 in terms of draft picks. We've had Flynn on the list for 5 years now, he's been sold to us since 2018 as our next number 1 Ruck and now that the opportunity to grab that is truly there we bring in a guy that has shown he's in the same mould as Mumford? To me it screams a lack of faith in Flynn, and makes me question either a)why our football department failed to acknowledge this early or b) what's changed. And as I said, I don't think Preuss puts us any closer to getting the most out of what our successful gameplans have been.What? Who did you want playing ruck?
he’s been stuck behind probably the two best ruckman of the last five years.
He can do tap work and shift bodies.
he’s nearly the same age as Flynn.
put him in with Briggs and Flynn and whoever the best is he earnt their spot.
Try and be positive... I think it’s a great recruit.
This is the correct take, I'm not high on Preuss but for sure he's good as long as it's only as a stopgap, if in 2 years he's number 1 ruck and Flynn/ Briggs haven't made significant progress I'm worrying then why we progressed with themIm not sure it as bad as that either!
A few seem overly exicited, you seem to me to be too pessimistic.
For me, this is a Meh signing. Clearly we need a ruck, he is a ruck, is he the saviour, probably not, but he is probably AFL standard and probably cheap. A pragmatic signing.
If he can square the ruck contest that will help our clearances surely.
I'm of the thought that we should've backed in Flynn and Briggs to overtake Mumford as guys that'd be even cheaper than Preuss and cost us 0 in terms of draft picks. We've had Flynn on the list for 5 years now, he's been sold to us since 2018 as our next number 1 Ruck and now that the opportunity to grab that is truly there we bring in a guy that has shown he's in the same mould as Mumford? To me it screams a lack of faith in Flynn, and makes me question either a)why our football department failed to acknowledge this early or b) what's changed. And as I said, I don't think Preuss puts us any closer to getting the most out of what our successful gameplans have been.
This is the correct take, I'm not high on Preuss but for sure he's good as long as it's only as a stopgap, if in 2 years he's number 1 ruck and Flynn/ Briggs haven't made significant progress I'm worrying then why we progressed with them
With Flynn, missing virtually all of 2019 and there being no proper footy this year, maybe that has caused a question mark on if he is the guy.I'm of the thought that we should've backed in Flynn and Briggs to overtake Mumford as guys that'd be even cheaper than Preuss and cost us 0 in terms of draft picks. We've had Flynn on the list for 5 years now, he's been sold to us since 2018 as our next number 1 Ruck and now that the opportunity to grab that is truly there we bring in a guy that has shown he's in the same mould as Mumford? To me it screams a lack of faith in Flynn, and makes me question either a)why our football department failed to acknowledge this early or b) what's changed. And as I said, I don't think Preuss puts us any closer to getting the most out of what our successful gameplans have been.
This is the correct take, I'm not high on Preuss but for sure he's good as long as it's only as a stopgap, if in 2 years he's number 1 ruck and Flynn/ Briggs haven't made significant progress I'm worrying then why we progressed with them
SO my initial concerns are still valid and I now want to know what's changed ultimately, he had the ACL sure but I thought that was the reason we brought in Sauce to cover for the two years we expected him to need for recoveryWith Flynn, missing virtually all of 2019 and there being no proper footy this year, maybe that has caused a question mark on if he is the guy.
Briggs is young enough that if he needs more time, so be it.
If they also keep Mummy, it is virtually a sign they don't rate Flynn (even accounting for the hesitation I've listed above). This is the reverse of what we have been told for years, they have been very bullish on him as our next ruckman for at least 3 years.
Pretty sure he was injured rather than overlooked. Worked his way back through an achilles issue this yearI've seen him play well when he's been a #1 option in a few games for North.
It's more a concern that he wasn't the preferred option when Gawn missed games this year though, as that suggests he's regressed.
Preuss is a good pick up, probably 5 years too late re getting the right ruckman but better late than never. Happy to give a 2nd rounder for a position of need.
He is an aggressive style of player pretty good at tap work and if anything there is a knock on his ability to get around the ground. He was injured this year which didn’t help him but at 25 and with limited kms on the clock he is very well placed.
I like this move.
Look that’s a pretty attractive write up... will he last that long?I know I'm banging on about this guy, but his write-up is most impressive. Might be a bit short of height & weight for a true KPD, but essentially IMHO Sam Taylor steps into the #2 KPD position behind Davis, and we could develop Heath as a third tall, leaving Haynes as the interceptor. i.e. a similar 4-tall set-up that Leon favours, but slightly rearranged and hopefully replacing Corr with a guy who is a little stronger, particularly on the rebound. In my mind's eye, I see someone a bit like Joel Patfull who played for us for a couple of seasons, or Nathan Broad for Richmond - who can play both tall (to an extent) and small, but above all counterattacks well and has precision kicking out of D50 (a problem for us for sure!). That would help in the loss of both Heath Shaw & Zac Williams despite them both being medium defenders, and in time release Lachie back to his wing position if we moved in into the defensive line. Think Corr taking the kickouts but actually being precise with their placement! A few years down the track he can fully take on Nick Haynes' intercepting role; although by then we might have adjusted our playing style to make best use of both Haynes Chapman.
I must admit that I'm not entirely convinced by the projections for Zach Reid & Nik Cox, but am more so by this guy. By the time our presumptive pick #9 gets pushed back, I think he could be right in the appropriate pick range to take. There will be mids, medium forwards and flankers available at later picks.
Courtesy of https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/heath-chapman/:
Heath Chapman
Height: 193cm
Weight: 81kg
Current Team: West Perth, Western Australia
Birthday: January 31, 2002
Image Credit: @WAFLOfficial via Twitter
POSITION: Key Defender
DRAFT ANALYSIS: “Chapman is an attacking defender who reads the play well to intercept, then looks to move on quickly and deliver via foot.” – Michael Alvaro
Among a talent pool rich in key position stocks, Heath Chapman stands out as a defensive option with many points of difference. Not only does he thwart opposition attacks with sound intercept marking, but the West Perth product also incites attacking chains with his penetrative kicking. The 18-year-old backed up his strong bottom-age campaign with a stellar 2020 Colts season, let loose as a floating figure in the defensive half having already cut his teeth as a traditional key defender. Chapman also broke through for his WAFL League debut late in the year, adjusting to the level well before returning to his age group for finals. He has been a mainstay in the West Australian and AFL talent pathways; earning selection in last year’s Under 17 All-Stars showcase, this year’s AFL Academy intake, and the recent WA All-Star fixtures, while also strutting his stuff at the National Combine. With athleticism and a well-balanced game, Chapman is bound for first round honours.
STRENGTHS:
IMPROVEMENTS:
- Intercept marking
- Reading the play
- Kick penetration and efficiency
- Attack/defence balance
- Repeat running
- Composure
There are many strings to the bow of Chapman, a defender who can also hurt the opposition going the other way. Chapman’s first point of call often comes aerially, as he floats across with terrific courage and timing to clunk intercept marks on the defensive arc. From there, he instinctively plays on and turns defence into attack, punching penetrative and accurate kicks forward to open up the ground for his side. This style of play has come largely thanks to a slight change in role throughout 2020, as Chapman has been let off the chain to roam as a third tall, rather than manning the best opposition key forward.
- Size as KPD
Chapman’s elite running capacity is highlighted by eye-catching testing results; notching a score of 21.6 on his preseason yo-yo test, while also taking out the West Australian combine’s 2km time trial with a time of 6:30. More significantly, his endurance is showcased on-field with important repeat running. When he opts to hit a short-range target rather than going long, Chapman is often sighted running hard to chain his next possession, becoming the receiver and advancing to an even more dangerous position to utilise his proficient kicking.
His composure with ball in hand is also noticeable, with sound decision making allowing Chapman to make the most of each disposal. That factor, and the aforementioned traits combine to give the West Australian a brilliant balance between his defensive and offensive output. At 193cm, he plays somewhat like a small with such athleticism and disposal efficiency, but still has the height and smarts to impact aerially.
He is the type who does a lot of things well for a player of his size, though his current figure may raise some queries as he transitions to the next level. Chapman is perhaps a few centimetres and kilos off true key position stature, making his key defender tag a touch less viable in the AFL. It is hardly a major issue, as Chapman looks like easily developing into a defensive utility who can play loose, lock down opposition forwards, or run off his man to intercept.
The West Perth product is obviously quite highly rated among his peers and opposition coaches too, as he took out this year’s WAFL Colts Coaches Award ahead of Jack Clarke and Mel Whinnen medalist, Lachlan Vanirsen. His character and vast array of elite traits see many ticks placed next to his name, with plenty of natural talent there to nurture.
DRAFT PROJECTION: First Round
Chapman has firmly cemented his spot within first round calculations after an outstanding season, and could be one of a few West Australians taken within that range. His array of weapons and flexibility as a key defensive option could see him considered with a pick in the early teens, while it is hard to see him sliding much further than the top 15. The first round tag is a safe projection, with Chapman’s upside pointing towards great value at that 11-15 range.
COMBINE TESTING HIGHLIGHTS:
National Combine:
2km time trial – 6 minutes, 30 seconds
Preseason:
Running Vertical Jump (L) – 78cm
Speed (20m) – 3.03 seconds
Endurance (yo-yo test) – 21.6
me too!This is doin ma head in, clicking back on Big Footy regularly to see if Jezza stays or goes.