List Mgmt. 2020 Trade and List Management Thread III

[Souup]

Fun fact, the Higgins pick is only a four pick downgrade on the compensation the Dogs received for him in 2014.

Yeah but he's only increased in value 6 years later at the ripe age of 32. We were robbed - should have pushed strongly for a 1st rounder in return.

/s

 

[Snake_Baker]

How Higgins will get to Cats
JON RALPH
Geelong is expected to hand over its No.30 draft pick for North Melbourne's Shaun Higgins.
The Herald Sun understands the Cats are prepared to use that selection, having secured it from Carlton in the Lachie Fogarty trade.
The Cats handed over pick 38 for 30 and 51 in this year's draft.
The Cats are aware of how potent Higgins would be on the half forward flank, effectively replacing Gary Ablett.
The Roos have always wanted a quality pick given their acceptance that Higgins is heading home to Geelong for family reason.

How many cracks has this idiot had at this trade now?

 

[Tarka_Dal]

Fun fact, the Higgins pick is only a four pick downgrade on the compensation the Dogs received for him in 2014.

Would have to be close to the best player picked up via Free Agency since it was introduced. Be plenty of other clubs looking back and thinking 'How did we not consider this bloke'.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Thanks Higgo

30 will have to do, so about the same we got for Wells, but it cost the Cats

 

[big_e]

Our last pick 30 was Trent Dumont. Before that, Rod Crowe, Sav Rocca and Paul McMahon.

Fair to say that's a 50% record.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Ralph still thinks he can talk Brady in to trades.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

We picked Higgins up as a FA.

He gave us 6 good years and we walked away with pick 30.

Thanks Shaun

 

[Kanga1996]

starting to feel like we're the ones who will end up disappointed with regards to stephenson. the media's really trying to play up his chances of coming to north but something feels off, there's nothing concrete yet. keep the lids on

He will take a pay cut and stay imo

 

[Liam Boy]

Our last pick 30 was Trent Dumont. Before that, Rod Crowe, Sav Rocca and Paul McMahon.

Fair to say that's a 50% record.

people like to have a big crank over top 10, top 5 picks but it can slip a person's mind just how good you have to be to be top 30 in your draft year

 

[ROORAGE]

Not happy to see him go, was fantastic for the club. Bittersweet. Not shattered about pick 30 though.

 

[Psicosis]

Cant see us letting Brown go for just Pick 31 or 33 after getting Pick 30 for a 33 year old Higgins... And Melbourne getting 31 for Preuss for that matter...

If Melbourne think they can essentially trade Preuss for Brown, they are acting like f***** snakes and we should walk him to PSD.

 

[King Hansen]

Happy with with 30. All the best higgo.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Would have to be close to the best player picked up via Free Agency since it was introduced. Be plenty of other clubs looking back and thinking 'How did we not consider this bloke'.

Agreed. His value to us has been enormous from start to finish.

Now let's give his replacement #4 and ride them to glory.

 

[Liam Boy]

He will take a pay cut and stay imo

why should he let collingwood worm their way out of fulfilling their contractual obligation to him? unless he's about to become a holden ambassador

 

[Snake_Baker]

Shaun is now at Geelong.

This is a shit trade and we should have kept him.

 

[big_e]

people like to have a big crank over top 10, top 5 picks but it can slip a person's mind just how good you have to be to be top 30 in your draft year

True, but the average player picked in the 20s only plays 32 games for their club. Stats below.

50% success record on pick 30s is pretty good fishing, tbh.

We should take comfort from the fact that two top ten picks will net us a very, very good player. Here's some stats on draft picks (data from 1993-2018)

https://www.draftguru.com.au/analysis/pick-value-comparison/all-time-medians

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[Ball Dont Lie]

I am sad. Shaun was the classiest played we had in the last 3 years. If he can win a flag with the cats and danger miss out I will be happy with that outcome.

 

[Farthers]

So currently we have picks 2, 11, 28, 30 and 70. Corr and Young in. The delisted 11 + Higgins out with Brown to follow. Do we have any idea of the list sizes yet. Will we be able to field a list without multiple DFAs?

 

[Shagga is all Class]

Pick 30 is fair.

I agree.

So pick 30 and we pocket his 2021 salary towards someone else or front load.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Sickening.

They would want to seriously impress me to make up for this.

 

[giantroo]

North list manager Glenn Luff said it was important to negotiate a deal that was right for both parties.

“We’ve been working hard to reach a deal that all parties were satisfied with and getting a good pick in while helping Shaun secure a longer term deal was a priority,” Luff said.

“It’s important for us to secure a strong draft hand to invest in young talent but we also wanted to make sure we looked after someone who has been a champion player for our club.”

Luff thanked Higgins for his contribution.

“Shaun has been a really important player and person for our club and has won two Syd Barker medals,” he said.

“He’s been a great leader, is always professional and is one of the best role models you could ask for. He has helped develop our younger players and his experience and knowledge will hold them in good stead, so we thank him for that.

“We wish Shaun, Heidi and Rosie the very best for the next chapter in their lives.”

 

[fusion]

The reality is next year we wanted to go with Cunnington, LDU and Simpkin in the middle, Higgins isn't a wingman and our flank positions are already getting overwhelmed.

Yeah, we are just like Richmond, so much depth we have to trade away guys like Butler and Jack Higgins etc

U can never have too many quality mids...that's why Dangerfield, I mean Geelong is taking him.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Only pick 30 is unders. We should have asked for more. Disappointing.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Snake_Baker]

They can gift wrap a turd all they like, but it's still a turd.