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100% agree mate and I wouldn't do it either, but the reality is that's likely what's needed to get pick # 1 and the best kid in the land.Bergman yes. Houston and Duursma are already showing they are part of the next guard. Trading them would be more hollowing out the middle of our list.
Bergman just wouldn't happen not worth pick one or even a top ten at this stage even with our first going back, Duursma probably not worth it but even if he was that just sends us back a couple of years and Houston is one of our next leaders and already top 5 in his position in the afl you don't trade those guys for an 18 year old.We have Boak R Gray Rockliff all coming to the end. We need to continue to invest in the future. Horne is going to be an absolute gun and we have been ballsy before in trading Wingard, Polec and Howard to get high up in drafts. I am not saying we should, I am just curious whether we think it would be worth it.
As a suggestion (and i would never do it), but what if North came and said we will give you pick 1 for our first and one of Houston/Duursma/Bergman?
100% agree mate and I wouldn't do it either, but the reality is that's likely what's needed to get pick # 1 and the best kid in the land.
Hey Macca - is Horne that good that you would look to move out our first pick plus a top quality player to try and get a look at him?
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Ladhams + 2021 1st + 2022 1st for pick 1. That's essentially 3 late firsts for pick 1 which is a reasonable trade.
The player we would take at pick 1 would have to be a difference maker and be able to replace Boak/Gray. I think I trust our recruiters to use our picks rather than trade them all for pick 1. My preference would be to trade someone out and grab another 1st and keep stacking the team with as many 1st round picks as we can.
The first, second and third rule of trading. Quantity <> Quality. No serious trade proposal should have a difference of more than one on the combined number of picks / players coming in and going out.Ladhams + 2021 1st + 2022 1st for pick 1. That's essentially 3 late firsts for pick 1 which is a reasonable trade.
The player we would take at pick 1 would have to be a difference maker and be able to replace Boak/Gray. I think I trust our recruiters to use our picks rather than trade them all for pick 1. My preference would be to trade someone out and grab another 1st and keep stacking the team with as many 1st round picks as we can.
You mean the career threatening knee injury that has plagued his uncle Shaun, the one he hurt in his hiatus over summer. Thought no one had seen or heard from him since he went walk about in Lincoln to connect to his ancestral roots. This was after the PAC School camp to Alice Springs where he was found with 4 European Backpackers in his Single swag...Hurt his knee (meniscus) before Xmas. He had stint with Port as part of his Academy gig but could only do rehab.
He was hoping to be ready for the start of the season but hasn't come up.
I could be convinced with regards to Duursma.
Can't agree. If anything he is suffering under their shadow. The kid is a player and we should have no regrets drafting him.I think he's lived off the 'Rozee, Butters and Duursma' hype tbh. He's a good player but he's nowhere near Butters' level and has nowhere near Rozee's potential. I'd do Duursma + a late 1st for Horne pretty comfortably tbh.
Can't agree. If anything he is suffering under their shadow. The kid is a player and we should have no regrets drafting him.
And he isn't hyped.No regrets drafting him at all, he's well worth pick #18. He's just not a star of the comp like Butters is and Rozee will be.
I'll go on a limb... At the end of there careers it will end up butters>>>>duursma>>>rozee.
Rozee most talented... But butters and duursma's work ethic is what will eventually put them higher
Not Hayes he's the best chance to become elite out of those two. If we are targeting a mid in the draft I would trade SPP and continue to bring in high skilled kicks into the team, that's SPPs weakness and when you look at the best teams you can't have many weak links in the chain, high quality disposal over anything else its what separated hawthorn from the pack 2012-2015.I'm not trading any of the 3 young guns keep them together for the next 12yrs thanks.
North will have pick 1 with all the top end kids this yr makes the decision to take Phillips over McDonald even more head scratching.
I think going forward we may stay with the 1 ruckman which would allow us to trade lahdams or Hayes with our first this yr.