Interesting thanks for the info. Sounds like we are really pushing development in every area we can, great news tbh
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Ouch, looks like our prized draft pick ain't ready for senior footy in 2021 then.
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DGB was also voted second best on ground for the orange team on the Hawthorn website so I assume there wasn't really direct opponents, more of a zoning defence.
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Probs like last year Patton & Lewis ended up getting Hartley & Frawley, then O'Brien got Greaves.
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Yeah, you'd hope that would be the case.
Don't understand a lot of the knocks on TOB having a good intra game. He definitely needs to translate it to AFL but he can only do the best with what's in front of him. He was a player devoid of confidence in his early years and has only ever really clicked in a couple of games. IF and it's a big IF it all clicks we have a seriously underrated third tall who plays great forward defence. To his credit, he keeps improving and he would be quite cheap on the player cap. You need players like this in the squad and surely there is a bit more positivity for an older player still developing. If he was just picked up and did this in his first intra game a lot would be reacting like spangha back in the day.
Also seeing a big difference in player size (I know its pre season) but if it stays a focus the talls on our list will have a lot more impact in contests.
Nothing like a fit and health squad all pushing for list spots!
Also seeing a big difference in player size (I know its pre season) but if it stays a focus the talls on our list will have a lot more impact in contests.
Nothing like a fit and health squad all pushing for list spots!
I think it is like festivus...everyone stand around a pole and tell each other how much they disappointed them in the last year/match/training session.How does leading teams work? Interesting to know if you don’t mind
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It was a warm and sunny morning at waverley with a light cool breeze, great conditions for an intra-club game.
Orange V Blue with Blue being the A team and Orange being the B team with the exception of a few best 22 players players such as Greaves and Scrimshaw playing on the Orange team.
There was quite a crowd of onlookers which included the CEO, El Presidente, List manager, Footy Boss and a bunch of others, plus some of the players wives and girlfriends.
4 x 25 minute quarters with the clock being stopped at the appropriate times, 3 AFL umpires present, so this was pretty much match conditions and played as close to match intensity as you will see during pre-season.
Forwards for the blue team were Kosi, Lewis, TOB, Breust and Moore playing on Denver, Hartley, Greaves and Scrimshaw in defence for Orange.
Forwards for the orange team were Jeka, Brockman, Morris, Nash & Hanrahan playing on Hartigan, Frost, Hardwick, Day, Impey & CJ in defence for Blue.
The orange team got off to a flyer getting the first few goals through Jeka & Morris before Blue clawed their way back to be just a couple of points behind at qtr time. The blue team blew Orange away in the second qtr kicking 8 goals and from there it never got close score wise (final scores were something like 110 to 50), however Orange were far more competitive than the score would indicate.
I'll go though the players 1 by 1 with the blue team first:
Dylan Moore was close to Best On Ground for the Blue team. His workrate was incredible, running between the middle and the goals and impacting In both positions. He just seemed to be everywhere. Kicked at least 3 goals, maybe 4, laid tackles, did the in and under stuff, took some really great overhead grabs. He never faded out, was consistent across all four quarters.
Connor Downie switched between wing, mid and forward for the blue team and was excellent in all roles. He beat Maginess on the wing (more on maginess later) kicked a couple of goals as a forward and was not out of his depth as a mid. He has very much put himself forward for a spot in Rd 1.
Tom Philips was outstanding playing on the wing for the blue team. He racked up the possessions and always used the ball superbly. He kicks low and direct, can break and lay a tackle and is tough. Ran hard for all four quarters. Pick 64? Thanks Collingwood
Shiels played a blinder for the blue team. Was probably the best inside mid on the ground although Worpel gave him a run for his money. Worps was also outstanding. Between the two of them nobody else had a look in with the clearances for much of the game.
JOM (in the blue) was playing more of an outside role including time on the wing. Everything he did was class. He does still have a burst of speed which he used effectively and his disposal was perfect today. Amazing how good his disposal is when he has a bit of space.
Chad was good, not as prominent today with Worps and Shiels dominating for the Blue team. I se ethat as a good thing - not having to reky in Chad to get all of the clearances.
Impey was electrifying off half back and another candidate for best on ground. In one piece of play he gathered a ground ball in a 1 v 3 contest at half back on the wing, put the jets on and took off down the wing right past where we were standing, took two running bounces then delivered to Lewis 30 metres away at half forward who kicked it perfectly to Moore in the forward pocket for a goal. He combined well with Will Day in the first half, the two of them breaking the lines over and over again.
Will Day was excellent in the first half. Along with Impey, they gave the Orange forwards very little chance to keep the ball in their fwd 50. Day & Impey together was an exhilarating combination running out of defence.
Kosi was imposing amd dangerous at half forward, playing more as the link man. He took a number of really difficult contested and overhead marks, and if couldn't mark he smashed the pack and created a contest. Kicked 1 goal that I know of. He is a big fella and it seems like he is really learning how to use his size to impact the contest as well as backing himself to take the grabs.
TOB is one of the stories of the day for me. Timmy Almost became Timmy Pretty Much Everything. Somebody must have told him we were playing Melbourne because he was marking everything that came his way. One grab contested marks, overhead, diving marks, EVERYTHING. Nailed Most of his set shots as well. At least 3 goals for TOB today. Imagine if he could produce that more often.
Breust was just doing what Breust does.
Burgoyne did what Burgoyne does.
Lewis had some outstanding moments today with good one grab contested marking. Conversion wasn't awesome but after today I feel like he is not far from really tearing it up. Maybe against the bulldogs next week???
McEvoy didn't ruck much. He actually spent time at CHF for Blue team and was on the bench a lot. I'm guessing he was on very limited minutes. Loved listening to him talk to all the boys on the bench and the coaches. Inspirational choice as captain in my opinion.
Ceglar did most of the ruck work for Blue and won fairly easily against Reeves and Brooksby. Reeves was not bad but watches his opponent too much rather than the ball which gave Ceglar the upper hand. Ceglar's work around the ground was also good.
Frosty in defence was solid. Hartigan was very good.
CJ was great again today. The only downer being the occasional horrendous turnover by foot that you know he is going to give, yet he really seems to be becoming a much more complete footballer. He is not just X factor anymore. I would still have him in the team.
Howe was good alternating between halfback and the middle. Got plenty of the ball and used it well. Laid some good hard tackles.
Orange Team:
Firstly I want to talk about Maginess. Not because he was one of the best for Orange but because i finally got a really good look at how he goes about it. What i realised today is that Finn is an inside mid. That is where he really excels and that is where his natural game is. For some reason i have been thinking of him as an outside mid and even a potential wingman. Downie towelled him up on the wing today but when Finn went into the guts he had a real impact. He was getting clearances in the middle but then running forward to get into position to receive the ball which gave multiple shots on goal. As the game went on and the weather got hotter, Finn's endurance elevated his performance. He had a 10 minute stint in the third quarter where was the dominant player for Orange playing as a center square mid. When he was moved back to the wing he faded out again.
Greaves (orange in the first half, Blue in the second) was outstanding again. Clean, decisive, evasive, unflustered, perfect disposal, tough.
Jeka was very busy as the key forward for Orange team. Could have had three goals by quarter time if he hadn't of slipped over twice. Considering the limited opportunities he had, he did very well. He worked extremely hard and always made a contest. Showed some more of that elite field kicking again today on two occasions which led to two goals. Took a couple of nice grabs. Like Lewis, I feel that Jeka is very close to having a massive game.
Brockman playing as a small forward for Orange was excellent again today. He even went down back in the second half for a while and was very good. He is composed and is an elite kick. Another one that i would pencil in for Rnd 1 or very early debut. Hanrahan out Brockman in???
Speaking of Hanrahan, Oli did as he often does and bobbed up for some scintillating moments, deft handballs and knock ons, evading three opposition players with ease, a few goal assists, but then disappears for long periods. Kicked at least one goal.
Morris started really well with the first goal of the game. he faded in and out a bit. He is a genuine excitement machine when he gets involved but doesn't stay consistently involved.
Hartley played really well as the KPD for Orange. Took a lot of intercept marks and generally used the ball really well when kicking out of defence. Was really vocal with encouraging and directing the younger guys.
Callow really showed something today. Very reliable pair of hands, high work rate, good disposal and very tough. He flew for a mark on the wing and got absolutely crunched when he was at full stretch. Took the wind right out of his sails but he got up and kept going straight away. Was a good target inside 50. Took some good grabs and kicked a couple I think. I like him and would be happy to add him to the list. I reckon he did his prospects no harm today.
Will Bravo was also very good. He was busy all day. Got plenty of it and used it well.
Denver was solid in defence but on this occasion TOB won the day. He did show his talent and skill on a number of occasions using his position and reading of the play to spoil and repel, but overall a quiet one for Denver.
Scrimshaw went off early but was solid. Pulled off a couple of kicks that required dead eye accuracy to break the play open.
The longer the game went, the better Cousins got. He and Finn really kept Orange in it in the last quarter. Cuz was winning clearances and bursting away, working well in tandem with Finn. Cuz worked hard all day. Solid performance overall.
I think there were approx 6 (maybe 8) Box Hill boys out there as well.
Non starters - Gunners, Sic, Pepper, Saunders, Seamus Mitchell, T Mitchell. Seamus did a lot of running.
Shout out to houdinhuddo with the binoculars helping to identify players.
Please keep this all in context. It was a very lopsided contest. I'm just reporting what I saw.
That's it from me.
Enjoy.
Do you think Callow and Bravo will be put on the list or only one and on Sen breakfast that said to Jackson when they interviewed him about his Hawthorn training said they have heard he plays like Jonothan Brown on what you saw can you see it at all in him that his that kind of player. Axeman
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Kraig Grime was the guy running it in 08.
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I can understand a healthy level of skepticism for players after good intra-club hitouts, but I'm going to say it's a good thing for TOB to be playing well in them, and that though I understand that he won't be kicking six goals a game every week once the season proper hits, I will have more hope/expectation for him to have a bigger impact on field in 2021.
He'd have to kick six goals a week for a couple seasons for some of the posters here to accept him as one of our better players.
He'd have to kick six goals a week for a couple seasons for some of the posters here to accept him as one of our better players.
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Agree Axe are we playing a new vision of the old Buddy Box tactic with Lewis,Jeka,TOB and Big Boy.
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I just a lovely imagine of Frank Costanza addressing the entire team (and coaching panel) telling them all how much they dissapointed him last year in the traditional airing of grievances followed by Frank challenging Clarko to a wrestling match and saying the team can't play the first match until he is pinned!
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If so, I'm very happy with that. Was saying last year that we need to go back to basics with the young guys and maintain a structure they can rely on.
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To Axeman, thank you as always that report was scintillating stuff.
To the two posters who only ever come here to hang s**t on our players:
To the two posters who only ever come here to hang s**t on our players:
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1st Rule of Leading Teams is that you don't talk about Leading Teams!How does leading teams work? Interesting to know if you don’t mind
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Leading teams started in 2004 when Vanders became capt. Clarkson brought it with him.
It was a key part of the culture change and buy in.
Jordan Lewis role, tall inside mid that also starts on the wing regularly.
Tbf, a confident Tim O'Brien is a pretty dangerous opponent.
The club released footage of the 2019 Geelong game which was lewis and TOB best showing, so less of the Melbourne talk please.
Isn’t the wing selections the biggest news though. Phillips and Donnie. Who else apart from Finn played through there?
Isn’t the wing selections the biggest news though. Phillips and Donnie. Who else apart from Finn played through there?
No more than any other year. I actually thought BOG till half time yday for the orange team was the Box Hill player Aducci. That shows how much it was just your typical intra club game, nothing more.
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Starting 18 in my round 1 side. Looking forward to seeing what Moorey can produce after a full pre-season and some renewed confidence.
Nash, Morrison, Moore and O’Meara to name a few
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