List Mgmt. 2022 AFL Draft & Rookie Draft

[Aphrodite]

 

[TerryWallet]

I would only be offering 10 and 49 for 2 of the Giants late teen picks.

I would prefer their pick 19 over 18. 10 and 49 for 15 and 19 is the only trade i'd even think about in regards to this years hands.

Of course the LM's have 2 years of picks to get down to tin tacks with, but that's too complicated for us plebs to indulge in. It will be a game LM who trades/swaps 1st or 2nd Rders from next year. A highly regarded pool and such an even AFL competitition next year.

 

[thylacine60]

it's great reading all the views and opinions and even more-so that as exciting as the draft is, it isn't like previous seasons where it was THE highlight of the year

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Only teams I’d do deals to trade down with are Sydney (10 and 29 for 14 and 17) and West Coast (12 and 20 for 10 and 29).

I’d do our future 1st for GWS pick 15 as well, I think I’d like a swap of future 2nds as next years draft is supposedly better.


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[Arr0w]

I would only be offering 10 and 49 for 2 of the Giants late teen picks.

I would prefer their pick 19 over 18. 10 and 49 for 15 and 19 is the only trade i'd even think about in regards to this years hands.

Of course the LM's have 2 years of picks to get down to tin tacks with, but that's too complicated for us plebs to indulge in. It will be a game LM who trades/swaps 1st or 2nd Rders from next year. A highly regarded pool and such an even AFL competitition next year.

First pick of the 2nd round is a great bargaining tool. Clubs that see certain players still on the board, will offer up massive overs.

 

[Stamos]

Only teams I’d do deals to trade down with are Sydney (10 and 29 for 14 and 17) and West Coast (12 and 20 for 10 and 29).

I’d do our future 1st for GWS pick 15 as well, I think I’d like a swap of future 2nds as next years draft is supposedly better.


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Should be #49 in those deals, not #29.
I’d be happy to trade with Giants for #15 + #18/19

 

[Matty411]

100% agree on the cost. If we hold 11 (as I expect we will) and a Tsatas/Humphrey/Phillipou is there (or whoever else someone wants) then I'd expect 11 + 49 for 2 x late firsts is the cost.

However if a guy we rate top 5-6 slides to us, I kinda hope we just grab them anyway.

 

[murphster]

First pick of the 2nd round is a great bargaining tool. Clubs that see certain players still on the board, will offer up massive overs.

Yeah 19 is the one to get, are they doing it over 2 nights again this year? If so then definitely you’d want 19 which depending on the slider you could turn into a future first or 2 2nd rounders over night.

 

[katmanblue]

If Tsatas slid past Geelong I'd be trading up to get him no doubt about it.

I’ve read a few things on the main board where posters seem to be concerned about his softness and being a downhill skier.

Do you see him having issues with either of these facets?

 

[murphster]

100% agree on the cost. If we hold 11 (as I expect we will) and a Tsatas/Humphrey/Phillipou is there (or whoever else someone wants) then I'd expect 11 + 49 for 2 x late firsts is the cost.

However if a guy we rate top 5-6 slides to us, I kinda hope we just grab them anyway.

Last time in 2019 when we had pick 9, on the night we placed bids on Henry then Green we then traded it to Gold Coast who wanted Flanders and got back what became 17 & 20 I think it was which we used for Kemp and then Philp, just as an example of what trading on the night can get you if a club wants a certain player.

 

[Sheephead]

We dont think GWS don’t know how valuable 19 is - really.

Also, 49 will get you a bag of chips at the corner store. It’s us who want their picks not vice versa. Ahh Draft time - the time when all AFL supporters want the unbelievable. 10 and 49 gets you 14 and 42 or 19 and 31.it’s not worth Jack. 29 on the other hand gets you 14/17 or 15/18. GWS just lost 4 solid players remember. SYD are a player away from a Premiership.

Anyway - Spoke to a mate who works the mines in the Pilbara about half a ago - as a result, I just re-watched Elijah Hewett highlights - he is as good as anyone in this draft IMO. If he makes our pick - we should take him. Could be the next Judd. Yep E HEWETT 3 Votes - quote me.

Get back into the early 2nd somehow and take Barnett and we are gold.

DeKoning and McKay as our KPF pillars. Curnow to play Kouta II.

 

[Stamos]

We dont think GWS don’t know how valuable 19 is - really.

Also, 49 will get you a bag of chips at the corner store. It’s us who want their picks not vice versa. Ahh Draft time - the time when all AFL supporters want the unbelievable. 10 and 49 gets you 14 and 42 or 19 and 31.it’s not worth Jack. 29 on the other hand gets you 14/17 or 15/18. GWS just lost 4 solid players remember. SYD are a player away from a Premiership.

Look at previous trades done to move up in the 1st round.
And what the points add up to when we include our 2nd round pick, they're equal.

After the Ashcroft bid, all those picks move back 1.
11 + 30 is worth a pick in the 60s less than 15 and 18 or 16 + 19.
47 is much more realistic than 30 to use in those trades, it means the tax to move up to 11 is worth roughly 39 (ie a 3rd rounder).

 

[Arr0w]

49 has no value really, unless you are looking for points

Future 2nd for a current 2nd, sure

If the Swans or GWS want pick 10, for 2 of their 1st rounders, then we will need to add a 2nd, this year or next

 

[GT619]

I would be happy to trade back for 2 latish 1st rounders, or thereabouts

GWS 10, 29 for 15, 18

Swans 10, 29 for 14, 17

WC 10 for 12, 20

There would be exchanging to futures, but as long as we keep our or another clubs future 1st

Maybe they think hayes will there at that range

 

[murphster]

49 has no value really, unless you are looking for points

Future 2nd for a current 2nd, sure

If the Swans or GWS want pick 10, for 2 of their 1st rounders, then we will need to add a 2nd, this year or next

Thoughts?

 

[Wickzki]

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Thoughts?

If they offered that in a ****ing heartbeat unless there's a blatantly obvious slider

 

[ctwenty1]

Only teams I’d do deals to trade down with are Sydney (10 and 29 for 14 and 17) and West Coast (12 and 20 for 10 and 29).

I’d do our future 1st for GWS pick 15 as well, I think I’d like a swap of future 2nds as next years draft is supposedly better.


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I'd trade our pick ten for GWS' pick 1

 

[Ash24]

Reckon a lot of possible options will be gone by Pick 15, which could be 17-18 after FS and academy pics.

Unless someone like Hayes is still on the board - which may eventuate - I’m not too sure why we’re bothering.

My take on the situation is we're waiting until pick 11 to see if one of Phillipou or Humphrey is still available. If both of them have been taken, that's when we look to trade down the order. Pick 11 for picks 19 + 20 seems the most logical - that gives us three picks inside the top 30 which is what Austin has wanted all along.

Pick 19 is used on a mid - Hollands, Hewett or Hotton. Pick 20 is used on a KPP - Keeler or Gruzewski. With Pick 30 I'd look at if the remaining player out of the two KPPs is still available, otherwise pick up George, Konstanty or Clarke. Last list spot would go on a DFA, depending on who we pick at 30 I'd recruit Ned Cahill or Josh Walker.

 

[Blue Flame]

Last time in 2019 when we had pick 9, on the night we placed bids on Henry then Green we then traded it to Gold Coast who wanted Flanders and got back what became 17 & 20 I think it was which we used for Kemp and then Philp, just as an example of what trading on the night can get you if a club wants a certain player.

Love both lads, but so far on output I wouldn’t be shouting about that success from the rooftops

 

[smashbox gill]

We dont think GWS don’t know how valuable 19 is - really.

Also, 49 will get you a bag of chips at the corner store. It’s us who want their picks not vice versa. Ahh Draft time - the time when all AFL supporters want the unbelievable. 10 and 49 gets you 14 and 42 or 19 and 31.it’s not worth Jack. 29 on the other hand gets you 14/17 or 15/18. GWS just lost 4 solid players remember. SYD are a player away from a Premiership.

Anyway - Spoke to a mate who works the mines in the Pilbara about half a ago - as a result, I just re-watched Elijah Hewett highlights - he is as good as anyone in this draft IMO. If he makes our pick - we should take him. Could be the next Judd. Yep E HEWETT 3 Votes - quote me.

Get back into the early 2nd somehow and take Barnett and we are gold.

DeKoning and McKay as our KPF pillars. Curnow to play Kouta II.

Glad someone else rates Hewett as highly as me. Looks a complete player

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Pick 19 is used on a mid - Hollands, Hewett or Hotton. Pick 20 is used on a KPP - Keeler or Gruzewski. With Pick 30 I'd look at if the remaining player out of the two KPPs is still available, otherwise pick up George, Konstanty or Clarke. Last list spot would go on a DFA, depending on who we pick at 30 I'd recruit Ned Cahill or Josh Walker.

I'd be doing cartwheels if this happened.

 

[Stamos]

Last time in 2019 when we had pick 9, on the night we placed bids on Henry then Green we then traded it to Gold Coast who wanted Flanders and got back what became 17 & 20 I think it was which we used for Kemp and then Philp, just as an example of what trading on the night can get you if a club wants a certain player.

Our bids moved our #9 back to #11, which we traded to Gold Coast with #62 for #17 (Kemp) & #22.
They didn't use #62, but they did take a pick at #60.

We then traded #22 + #55 to Port for #20 (Philp).
Port then traded #22 (the first pick of the 2nd round) with GWS F4 to Brisbane for #23 and Collingwood F2.

 

[Ash24]

I'd be doing cartwheels if this happened.

In Austin we trust

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

All the guys I really like for us are likely in the 15 - 30 range

 

[TCB-1935]

If Ben Allen's boy, Ed, is anything like his old man, I would choose him if he becomes available


Edit: Just checked CAl Twomeys draft ...he has Allen at 18

 

[Sheephead]

Look at previous trades done to move up in the 1st round.
And what the points add up to when we include our 2nd round pick, they're equal.

After the Ashcroft bid, all those picks move back 1.
11 + 30 is worth a pick in the 60s less than 15 and 18 or 16 + 19.
47 is much more realistic than 30 to use in those trades, it means the tax to move up to 11 is worth roughly 39 (ie a 3rd rounder).

Sorry mate but points mean squat on a live trade. They’ll fill the deficit in other ways with a future 7th if they have to. It’s value for money not points. The system is very pliable.