World Cup 2022 FIFA World Cup (Qualifiers)

[RPCB]

I think BF is trying to tell us something about the F word.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Arnold extension in 3..2..1..

 

[Jatz]

Arnold extension in 3..2..1..

I sincerely hope not.

 

[Cuzz09]

Woo Go Aussies. Didnt expect to win when I got up but pleasantly surprised.

Sounds like we were the better side fir the 90 mins

Hopefully we can do something in Qatar.

Be nice to get attacking and score some goals this time around.

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[The Cryptkeeper]

Have been reading that we are apparently in the "group of death" which is nothing more than a lazy position trotted out by ignorant imbeciles every four years. We are the 4th seed in the group, hence we have drawn 3 teams that are demonstrably better than us. France are obviously the reigning World Cup champion but Denmark and Tunisia are pretty standard fare at a World Cup.

We are unlikely to get much more than a point, if anything at all in Qatar but that will be a reflection on our lack of quality and not the myth that we have drawn some super tough group. I am pleased we made it but let's be honest, it is a rather uninspiring and limited Australian team. We should temper any expectations.

 

[Cruyff14]

Have been reading that we are apparently in the "group of death" which is nothing more than a lazy position trotted out by ignorant imbeciles every four years. We are the 4th seed in the group, hence we have drawn 3 teams that are demonstrably better than us. France are obviously the reigning World Cup champion but Denmark and Tunisia are pretty standard fare at a World Cup.

We are unlikely to get much more than a point, if anything at all in Qatar but that will be a reflection on our lack of quality and not the myth that we have drawn some super tough group. I am pleased we made it but let's be honest, it is a rather uninspiring and limited Australian team. We should temper any expectations.

I don't think anybody has high expectations.

We'll be lucky to score IMO.

 

[Cuzz09]

Maybe we should just go extreme park the bus tactics and take 3 draws

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[Cuzz09]

Maybe we should go the biff and take out their best players in the first few mins

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[Cruyff14]

 

[Caesar]

Have been reading that we are apparently in the "group of death" which is nothing more than a lazy position trotted out by ignorant imbeciles every four years. We are the 4th seed in the group, hence we have drawn 3 teams that are demonstrably better than us. France are obviously the reigning World Cup champion but Denmark and Tunisia are pretty standard fare at a World Cup.

We are unlikely to get much more than a point, if anything at all in Qatar but that will be a reflection on our lack of quality and not the myth that we have drawn some super tough group. I am pleased we made it but let's be honest, it is a rather uninspiring and limited Australian team. We should temper any expectations.

Denmark is a very good team at the moment

That said, NZ's prospective group (Spain, Germany, Japan) will be significantly harder than ours

 

[Running Dog]

Have been reading that we are apparently in the "group of death" which is nothing more than a lazy position trotted out by ignorant imbeciles every four years. We are the 4th seed in the group, hence we have drawn 3 teams that are demonstrably better than us. France are obviously the reigning World Cup champion but Denmark and Tunisia are pretty standard fare at a World Cup.

We are unlikely to get much more than a point, if anything at all in Qatar but that will be a reflection on our lack of quality and not the myth that we have drawn some super tough group. I am pleased we made it but let's be honest, it is a rather uninspiring and limited Australian team. We should temper any expectations.

Some groups contain more strong teams than others. That's the inevitable result of a) seeding, and b) ensuring even representation across all groups from the different confederations. With the 1st seeds, the difference in quality between them all is minimal. With 2nd seeds the quality diverges a little. With the 3rd seeds the quality is spread thinner, and by the time you get to all the 4th seeds there can be a large discrepancy in quality. So those who identify apparently stronger groups are not 'ignorant imbeciles', they are simply stating reality.

And 'group of death' is not a 'lazy position'- it's convenient (and colourful) shorthand to describe the inevitable inequities in determining the groups. You cannot possibly contend that all groups are equally easy, or equally difficult!

As it happens the group of death is probably Germany, Spain, Japan and NZ/Costa Rica, although ours isn't too far behind, compared to others. You're right that destiny is in your own hands, and you can't blame a 'super tough group' for your fate- but that doesn't mean tough groups are a 'myth'.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Denmark is a very good team at the moment

That said, NZ's prospective group (Spain, Germany, Japan) will be significantly harder than ours

No arguments there. Denmark are a very good team but they are supposed to be as the 2nd ranked team in the group.

There is nothing out of the ordinary about our group. It is far from a “group of death.”

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Some groups contain more strong teams than others. That's the inevitable result of a) seeding, and b) ensuring even representation across all groups from the different confederations. With the 1st seeds, the difference in quality between them all is minimal. With 2nd seeds the quality diverges a little. With the 3rd seeds the quality is spread thinner, and by the time you get to all the 4th seeds there can be a large discrepancy in quality. So those who identify apparently stronger groups are not 'ignorant imbeciles', they are simply stating reality.

And 'group of death' is not a 'lazy position'- it's convenient (and colourful) shorthand to describe the inevitable inequities in determining the groups. You cannot possibly contend that all groups are equally easy, or equally difficult!

As it happens the group of death is probably Germany, Spain, Japan and NZ/Costa Rica, although ours isn't too far behind, compared to others. You're right that destiny is in your own hands, and you can't blame a 'super tough group' for your fate- but that doesn't mean tough groups are a 'myth'.

My point is that our ignorant supporters declare that Australia cops the so called “group of death” at every World Cup.

That is utter nonsense. Our group in Qatar is pretty standard in terms of quality. There are tougher groups than ours.

 

[peternorth]

Do you find it funny how people are now saying it’s a disgrace we make it in whereas say Italy don’t.

Or that I’d we were part of uefa or CONMEBOL we wouldn’t make it?

 

[Running Dog]

My point is that our ignorant supporters declare that Australia cops the so called “group of death” at every World Cup.

That is utter nonsense. Our group in Qatar is pretty standard in terms of quality. There are tougher groups than ours.

Oh, OK, fair point. There are certainly tougher groups than ours. And sadly I also agree that commentary on soccer in Australia lacks appreciation of our true capability. People seem to think we can be as competitive in soccer as, say, the Wallabies or the Boomers in their respective sports, simply because we qualify, and if we don't succeed it must be because we faced particular hardship, but you're right, that's not an informed view.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Oh, OK, fair point. There are certainly tougher groups than ours. And sadly I also agree that commentary on soccer in Australia lacks appreciation of our true capability. People seem to think we can be as competitive in soccer as, say, the Wallabies or the Boomers in their respective sports, simply because we qualify, and if we don't succeed it must be because we faced particular hardship, but you're right, that's not an informed view.

Good enough mate.

This is what I am talking about:

https://www.news.com.au/sport/football/socceroos/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-2022-world-cup-now-the-socceroos-are-going/news-story/021f402bab2f66395a7a43c1acf9c245

Groups C, E and H are all tougher than ours. G is arguably tougher as well.

 

[ashley12]

A reasonable result would be

Tight loss to France
Draw or win vs Tunisia

Leaving us with destiny likely in our own hands vs Denmark but likely needing a win.

 

[Present Not Past]

All I want is for Australia to do better than Canada, and New Zealand of course, if they actually qualify.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

All I want is for Australia to do better than Canada, and New Zealand of course, if they actually qualify.

Canada finished top of their qualification group, they are are a decent team these days. NZ struggled to get past the Solomons, even if they sneak past the Ricans, they will do very well to get a point in that group (Spain, Germany and Japan).

 

[peternorth]

I do hope this can entice more people to the great game. Ive heard negativity today from ignorants who say they cant support a game that "involves diving and no scores in 2 hours".

 

[Frank Bunn]

Do you find it funny how people are now saying it’s a disgrace we make it in whereas say Italy don’t.

Or that I’d we were part of uefa or CONMEBOL we wouldn’t make it?

There's a bit of an anomaly that UEFA have 16 teams in the top 32 of the rankings but only 13 in the WC. Asia will have 6 at the WC but only 3 in the top 32 of the rankings. It tends to resolve itself by the last 16 and last 8 of the competition.

The real disgrace is that this WC was given to Qatar. It has nothing going for it in terms of development of the game. It's a shithouse place for fans to visit. The switch of the tournament to November/December will f*ck up the usual domestic and European competitions.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Redmayne is a legend, couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke.

 

[Pablito]

Honestly shocked we made it through. I still think this will be the worst team we've put forward out of the 5 world cup. But I could see us jagging a point or a win out of Tunisia.

 

[largebus]

Don't let us down Costa Rica.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Anyone have confirmation which channel/s will have the NZ vs Costa Rica game on Wednesday morning?

Cheers

Good question, unbelievably nowhere it seems.