VFL 2022 - Reserves Game Day discussion Rnds 1 - 22 (Merged threads)

[forever blue 1]

I think Richmond can smell what we’re cookin’!
It’s a hot pot tiger !

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

77-53 their way at 3 Qtr time

26 Hayes
20 Williamson, Carroll

Listed players

Williamson 20 disposals, 3 clearances
Carroll 20 disposals, 5 clearances
Kemp 9 disposals, 6 marks, 1 goal
Boyd 14 disposals
Philp 8 disposals, 4 clearances, 2 goals
De Koning 11 disposals, 10 hitouts, 4 clearances, 1 goal
O'Brien 13 disposals
Fogarty 12 disposals, 3 tackles, 2 clearances
Akuei 6 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles
Stocker 6 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles
Mirkov 5 disposals, 7 hitouts
Motlop 6 disposals

 

[TENACIOUS]

Like the look of Philp and Carroll so far, they may be next in line...

Our ruck situation is dire, If Pittonet gets injure we're ****ed...
TDK (struggling), Mirkov (Not even VFL quality, can't even jump off the ground)...

McDonald or Young are our best next option...

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Is it Paul Seb?

No idea

 

[Jimmae]

It's either HB or wing. As a backman he is tough, can control his opponent, but struggles to read the play unfolding, hence never has many intercepts

As a wingmsn he over commits, and generally only looks for longer targets, ignoring better options

Willo is at the crossroads as a player

I would agree with that, but I also would have thought it's the most coachable thing. Right now, he's taking short options galore.

I also felt he was doing exactly what was expected of him as a general defender in the pre-season. Now he's finally back playing some senior footy somewhere and they've dropped him on the wing in a team filled with outside run. It's as dumb as how they're playing Stocker and Kemp right now.

 

[forever blue 1]

77-53 their way at 3 Qtr time

26 Hayes
20 Williamson, Carroll

Listed players

Williamson 20 disposals, 3 clearances
Carroll 20 disposals, 5 clearances
Kemp 9 disposals, 6 marks, 1 goal
Boyd 14 disposals
Philp 8 disposals, 4 clearances, 2 goals
De Koning 11 disposals, 10 hitouts, 4 clearances, 1 goal
O'Brien 13 disposals
Fogarty 12 disposals, 3 tackles, 2 clearances
Akuei 6 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles
Stocker 6 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles
Mirkov 5 disposals, 7 hitouts
Motlop 6 disposals

Motlop is having a day to forget

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Motlop is having a day to forget

Covid may have something to do with it. Not many players have come back after that week off and set the world on fire.

 

[F_therest]

He's playing as an undersized KPF with minimal work on it in the pre-season, on an opponent that is physically bigger than him and has some of his athletic qualities and is more experienced.

They're leaving him on the difficult matchup, but I'm not sure he's learning much that he doesn't already know. It's miles in the legs he could be getting learning and aiding stoppage play, even if it's only in bursts.

Doesn't seem the coaches really see him in our onball brigade plans so are trying to develop him elsewhere.
We have our starting 5, with Dow & Carroll next in line...where does Kemp fit?

We have a need for more forward targets...we basically have no cover for McKay and Curnow. Looks like Kemp has been nominated as that guy...for the teams needs and it's actually his best chance of playing seniors. Shame it sounds like he's all at sea in the role though.

 

[Arr0w]

Willo looks so much better looking for shorter options

 

[Beyond Blue]

He's playing as an undersized KPF with minimal work on it in the pre-season, on an opponent that is physically bigger than him and has some of his athletic qualities and is more experienced.

They're leaving him on the difficult matchup, but I'm not sure he's learning much that he doesn't already know. It's miles in the legs he could be getting learning and aiding stoppage play, even if it's only in bursts.

Fair call although stunning indictment on list management that not only do we not have enough key position players on the senior list but also with the reserves/top up players.

 

[F_therest]

Like the look of Philp and Carroll so far, they may be next in line...

Our ruck situation is dire, If Pittonet gets injure we're f’ed...
TDK (struggling), Mirkov (Not even VFL quality, can't even jump off the ground)...

McDonald or Young are our best next option...

Yep, if TDK and Mirkov don't really improve it's a massive hole on our list that should be a priority come off season.

Also we don't have a single backup KPF to cover McKay or Curnow. TDK again not cutting it as a forward.

The holes in the list are starting to show.

 

[Shambolic]

Covid may have something to do with it. Not many players have come back after that week off and set the world on fire.

Week on week off?

Different tactics?


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[Jimmae]

Doesn't seem the coaches really see him in our onball brigade plans so are trying to develop him elsewhere.
We have our starting 5, with Dow & Carroll next in line...where does Kemp fit?

We have a need for more forward targets...we basically have no cover for McKay and Curnow. Looks like Kemp has been nominated as that guy...for the teams needs and it's actually his best chance of playing seniors. Shame it sounds like he's all at sea in the role though.

JGM is suspended, and the rucks should be - but are not - rotating in the other key tall role.

Carroll is only good for about 2-3 quarters in the VFL, let alone the AFL. Today was the day to do something different, and even the club admit Kemp's ultimate position is contested mid resting forward as third tall.

Perhaps they're trying to speed up the forward minutes accumulated in the VFL, but this is a silly way to go about it.

Fair call although stunning indictment on list management that not only do we not have enough key position players on the senior list but also with the reserves/top up players.

It's a tactical error today, one of many.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Kemp’s body language is poor. He may not like his current role but he needs to dig in.

 

[Benaly28]

I doubt anyone gets considered for senior selection,too many players just down and to be honest look disinterested.


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[Brackets]

JGM is suspended, and the rucks should be - but are not - rotating in the other key tall role.

Carroll is only good for about 2-3 quarters in the VFL, let alone the AFL. Today was the day to do something different, and even the club admit Kemp's ultimate position is contested mid resting forward as third tall.

Perhaps they're trying to speed up the forward minutes accumulated in the VFL, but this is a silly way to go about it.

It's a tactical error today, one of many.

You're making far too many excuses for someone that is lacking in workrate and attack on the ball. Needs to improve both, and be cleaner with his hands, before being thrown on the ball.

 

[Jimmae]

You're making far too many excuses for someone that is lacking in workrate and attack on the ball. Needs to improve both, and be cleaner with his hands, before being thrown on the ball.

Are you talking about Carroll or Kemp right now?

Kemp is playing high tempo football that is not being rewarded, and gassing himself in the process. The style of game he is playing is better suited to play out of a stoppage, and he has the right skill set to release other players or charge out of the stoppage as needed.

Has a great read of the game, just needs work on his tank. Don't see the harm in at least giving him 10-15 minutes there. Problem is Mirkov isn't really resting forward because he's absolutely gassed, so when TDK goes into the ruck, we don't have a key forward this week.

At the other end, Stocker is playing small defender when there are better small defenders in the side. Swap him with Williamson and push someone else to the wing. Stoppage problems are immediately solved.

Instead, we're mostly limp at the hottest part of the contest, and players outside of that are being run into the ground covering the rapid ball movement that ensues from Richmond.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

I doubt anyone gets considered for senior selection,too many players just down and to be honest look disinterested.


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Boyd is the only possibility to me.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I wouldn’t be persisting with Kemp forward. He isn’t a key forward and doesn’t look to have the smarts to be able to get on the end of the play. Personally I’d be playing him back to see if he can become an intercepting defender or possibly through the middle of the ground.
Carrol started beautifully then faded and really everyone else seem a fair way off.
I thought the TDK to CHB talk from a few seemed a little desperate but I think I could get behind that after his start to the season.

Anyway it looks like we are going abit better in the other game so might head to that

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

35 Hayes
23 Williamson, Carroll
21 Plowman
20 Maher

Listed players:

Williamson 23 disposals, 2 tackles, 3 clearances
Carroll 23 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 8 clearances
Plowman 21 disposals, 8 marks, 3 tackles
De Koning 14 disposals, 12 hitouts, 7 clearances, 1 goal
Kemp 10 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal
Philp 13 disposals, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 4 clearances, 2 goals
Boyd 17 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles
O'Brien 15 disposals, 2 marks
Stocker 11 disposals, 5 marks, 2 tackles
Fogarty 12 disposals, 3 tackles, 2 clearances
Motlop 12 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal
Akuei 9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles
Mirkov 7 disposals, 13 hitouts

 

[Kruezing]

I’d be bringing Willo into the team asap to take a wing spot off Newnes or Cottrell or both lol …

 

[forever blue 1]

I’d be bringing Willo into the team asap to take a wing spot off Newnes or Cottrell or both lol …

Cotters hasn’t been bad though

 

[Kruezing]

Cotters hasn’t been bad though

Reckon we already have two great wingers just need some youngsters to step up into midfield roles going forward to allow this to happen

 

[spry]

Mirkov has some serious Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

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[Blue Flame]

That throw, thrill, threat, throttle and thrash aren't pronounced 'frow, fhwill, fwreat, fwrottle and fwrash'.

I don't think he has a speech impediment, seems more like a learned behaviour. But when you're paid to announce, you've got to nail elocution so you're accessible to a wide audience.

Yes if there’s one thing football commentators are known for, it’s their elocution…