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Round 15 Update (Hipwood, Ben King and Naughton added)
Excluding games against the 3 easiest teams to score against (WCE, Hawthorn and NM - sorted by % - all less than 80), the averages for the main tall forwards are:
Hawkins: 12 games, 29 goals (2.42 pg), 13 assists (1.08 pg) = 3.50 goal contributions per game
Walker: 11 games, 29 goals (2.64 pg), 5 assists (0.45 pg) = 3.09 goal contributions per game
Daniher: 12 games, 29 goals (2.42 pg), 6 assists (0.50 pg) = 2.92 goal contributions per game
Larkey: 12 games, 31 goals (2.58 pg), 4 assists (0.34 pg) = 2.92 goal contributions per game
Cameron: 12 games, 28 goals (2.33 pg), 7 assists (0.58 pg) = 2.91 goal contributions per game
Curnow: 11 games, 25 goals (2.27 pg), 7 assists (0.64 pg) = 2.91 goal contributions per game
Allen: 13 games, 33 goals (2.54 pg), 4 assists (0.31 pg) = 2.85 goal contributions per game
Naughton: 12 games, 20 goals (1.67 pg), 11 assists (0.92 pg) = 2.65 goal contributions per game
Hipwood: 12 games, 18 goals (1.50 pg), 12 assists (1.00 pg) = 2.50 goal contributions per game
Finlayson: 9 games, 15 goals (1.67 pg), 7 assists (0.78 pg) = 2.45 goal contributions per game
Ben King: 11 games, 22 goals (2.00 pg), 4 assists (0.36 pg) = 2.36 goal contributions per game
Miochek: 12 games, 26 goals (2.17 pg), 2 assists (0.17 pg) = 2.34 goal contributions per game
Cameron gets hit with the statistically hemorrhaging start of game injury.
Hawkins is slowing down and Walker is catching up, with those two ahead of the rest of the pack. Daniher is making up ground too. It's a real clusterf**k from positions 3 to 7.
Excluding games against the 3 easiest teams to score against (WCE, Hawthorn and NM - sorted by % - all less than 80), the averages for the main tall forwards are:
Hawkins: 12 games, 29 goals (2.42 pg), 13 assists (1.08 pg) = 3.50 goal contributions per game
Walker: 11 games, 29 goals (2.64 pg), 5 assists (0.45 pg) = 3.09 goal contributions per game
Daniher: 12 games, 29 goals (2.42 pg), 6 assists (0.50 pg) = 2.92 goal contributions per game
Larkey: 12 games, 31 goals (2.58 pg), 4 assists (0.34 pg) = 2.92 goal contributions per game
Cameron: 12 games, 28 goals (2.33 pg), 7 assists (0.58 pg) = 2.91 goal contributions per game
Curnow: 11 games, 25 goals (2.27 pg), 7 assists (0.64 pg) = 2.91 goal contributions per game
Allen: 13 games, 33 goals (2.54 pg), 4 assists (0.31 pg) = 2.85 goal contributions per game
Naughton: 12 games, 20 goals (1.67 pg), 11 assists (0.92 pg) = 2.65 goal contributions per game
Hipwood: 12 games, 18 goals (1.50 pg), 12 assists (1.00 pg) = 2.50 goal contributions per game
Finlayson: 9 games, 15 goals (1.67 pg), 7 assists (0.78 pg) = 2.45 goal contributions per game
Ben King: 11 games, 22 goals (2.00 pg), 4 assists (0.36 pg) = 2.36 goal contributions per game
Miochek: 12 games, 26 goals (2.17 pg), 2 assists (0.17 pg) = 2.34 goal contributions per game
Cameron gets hit with the statistically hemorrhaging start of game injury.
Hawkins is slowing down and Walker is catching up, with those two ahead of the rest of the pack. Daniher is making up ground too. It's a real clusterf**k from positions 3 to 7.
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It would be a tough argument to say anyone other than errol is the best winger in the game
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So does Josh? They’re both excellent wingmen, and both deserve to be on the wings in the AA team at this point.
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Josh Daicos has been in the coaches votes 8 times. Not sure Erol kick it to me , kick it to me, always looking for a 15 metre cheapie , has been in the votes that many times. And again they like to reward players on more than one year. Don’t believe Gulden was in the squad last year.
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Errol averages the same disposals, kicks more goals and has double the tackles of daicos
How many times in the coaches votes. Champion data stats ain’t the be all and end all.
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And coaches votes are ? If they win the ball at the same rate but one kicks more goals and tackles at a 2:1 ratio, it's a strong case as to who is having a better year
Coaches votes are what many scribes value the most. How many times this year for Gulden. s**t what Gulden is going to get picked on his tackles per game. Come on dude. Guy is a good footballer no question, just feel and of course I’m biased Daicos has put together a superior body of work over the last 40 games. Either way at present both are probably deserving.
Apologies for going off topic but this post is really interesting in regards to the KPF possie.
Hawk and Jez feed off each other and those around them, that works.
I rate Larkey because he's had very little support from the start. He is also probably a bit undersized and both he and Allen, who has been plugged into every position previously, are playing in a woeful team atm.
Naughton, Hipwood and Ben King I've liked from b4 their AFL career began.
Brad Jonson on SEN has picked his all Australian team weekly from round 1. He’s incredibly knowledgeable and clearly knows his stuff and puts thought into it. Josh Daicos has been on the wing since Round 1 , never out of his side. For a large chunk of the year he had Mason Wood on the other wing. Only 2 weeks back he replaced Wood with Nic Martin. No disrespect to Gulden, he’s had 3 wingmen in front of him and prior to injury Sidebottom was most likely in front of him as well. Gulden has spent a lot more minutes as an inside mid, centre square this year as well. Very good player, no question about that , but he’s probably got some ground to make up on the others.
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Poor Oscar Allen doesn't get to play against West Coast.
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No Lewis is annoying so i have decided to add him in myself.
Lewis: 8 games, 22 goals (2.75 pg), 7 assists (0.875 pg) = 3.625 goal contributions per game
He is also equal with Tom Hawkins for score involvements per game with 7.4 out of key position players.
Game by game out of his 8 it has been super impressive:
1 goals 4 behinds, 2 goal assists & 11 score involvements v Dogs (first game back)
2 goals, 1 goal assist & 5 score involvements v Freo
1 goal 1 behind, 3 score involvements v Dees
6 goals 2 behinds, 1 goal assist & 11 score involvements v WCE (inc 24 disp)
3 goals 2 behinds, 7 score involvements v STK
3 goals 2 behinds, 3 goal assists & 13 score involvements v Port (inc 20 disp)
4 goals 1 behind, 7 score involvements v Lions
2 goals v Suns
If he plays the rest of the season he's on track for 17 games, 47 goals at 2.8 goals per game with 15 assists.
NBA style if he plays the whole season (23 games) he'd of kicked 64 goals with 21 assists.
He goes under the radar alot, won't make AA due to games missed but ******* elite.
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Mitch Lewis: 7 games, 16 goals (2.29 pg), 6 assists (0.86 pg) = 3.15 goal contributions per game
Sorry, I did consider putting him in, he is at 7 non NM/WCE games so I was still gonna wait another couple of weeks. Finlayson at 9 games is pushing it when the others are 12 on average. But I agree Lewis has been great and if his numbers hold up to the end he would only miss out due to games missed.
What's the lowest number of games a forward has had to make the AA team since we had 22 plus game seasons? I remember Ablett missed 3 out of 20 games in '93 which I guess is equivalent to missing 4 or 5 this year?
