List Mgmt. 2023 List Management and Trading (Part 2)

[PeterSalt]

Do you have a link to the article? I can't find anything on Google or the AFL website. Not doubting you, just trying to find the article you referenced.

From the article below:

"For instance, it would have allowed Adelaide to list one of Rory Sloane or Taylor Walker as a veteran for 2024 and opened up another spot on their primary list. The idea was designed to keep veterans in the game without sacrificing a list spot that a youngster may have taken, with the veteran’s full payments still counted in the salary cap."

Roos target pick one, Dee to go on, big Dog to stay

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There's a link in the post above

 

[whattagun07]

I don't know - I felt like folks thought players like Kernahan and Pavlich were going to come home their whole careers.

Some will and some won't. I don't think you can write a whole state off for the next five years.

Those examples are the wrong way around. Although yeah I guess we never lost David Mackay, Andy Otten or Brent Reilly

 

[Tex Danger]

Have we invented any new trade targets since Cox and Hayward went south?

What was the news on Hayward that has rules that out? I missed that

 

[CrowToon]

What was the news on Hayward that has rules that out? I missed that

Where is the news that rules it in?

 

[rabidcrow]

Thats exactly what its designed for.. to give straight to the suns for pick 4 and a free ticket to sanders..

not content with just giving them pick 3 as compo for that useless piece of sh*t McKay so they can use that to get Sanders... cause clearly north didnt want to have to use that pick for him… no, no, no!.. you have to give us that and even more please.. we cant go using our ridiculously generous compo pick for sanders. Thats not fair.

gill wouldve played clarko‘s skinflute whilst agreeing to it all..

they’ll take sanders, curtin and mckercher.

such an insipid and putrid league.

Surely they look to trade for Reid? So many picks available to them and he has the swagger of a lad that could come in and lead them out of the doldrums. North need a talisman as well as good players


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[rabidcrow]

I think the contracts are all technically with the AFL. So if the player and AFL agree it's all good

Plus the rules of engagement will be agreed by all 18 clubs - just as GC and GWS were

End of the day it’s about earning more revenue for the code and dominating the Aussie landscape


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[Mostyn]

Plus the rules of engagement will be agreed by all 18 clubs - just as GC and GWS were

End of the day it’s about earning more revenue for the code and dominating the Aussie landscape


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I'm not convinced Tasmania helps with those goals, but it's good karma.

 

[Mostyn]

Those examples are the wrong way around. Although yeah I guess we never lost David Mackay, Andy Otten or Brent Reilly

Adelaide Crows were a newly created side that was representing an entire state - Kernahan was a state hero playing interstate that many thought would immediately come home. Never happened.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Adelaide Crows were a newly created side that was representing an entire state - Kernahan was a state hero playing interstate that many thought would immediately come home. Never happened.

We going to make the new Tassie recruit captain?

McGuiness came home. So what’s your point

 

[Crow till I die]

We going to make the new Tassie recruit captain?

McGuiness came home. So what’s your point

D jarman went to the hawks iirc the year before the crows came in and only came back later on

 

[George CantStandYa]

D jarman went to the hawks iirc the year before the crows came in and only came back later on

Yep and he came back.
Bruce Linder returned.

Big difference between Vic clubs losing players to us, same with recruiting players. The only players we are recruiting currently is returning SA players.

The first Tassie teams will receive extraordinary concessions and players will be allowed to leave. Risk one pick on a Tassie, ok. Risk multiple picks to grab that Tassie player is a massive gamble.

 

[Alwaysacrow]

So let understand this?

the crows and north were in similar positions in 2020-21, one of these clubs although not done everything perfectly has progressed through its rebuild and can now challenge for finals, whereas the other club has made poor football department and program decisions

So can someone tell me two things

1. why offer assistance packages for clubs that keep making poor decisions?

this is just incentivising failure

2. why is the assistance package 1st round draft picks when all the evidence shows that the club has failed to develop talent ?

i would have thought the better assistance package would be to increase their soft cap so they can invest in their footy department to better develop talent?

This is just wrong in so many levels


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VFL bias BS.

 

[PeterSalt]

Yep and he came back.
Bruce Linder returned.

Big difference between Vic clubs losing players to us, same with recruiting players. The only players we are recruiting currently is returning SA players.

The first Tassie teams will receive extraordinary concessions and players will be allowed to leave. Risk one pick on a Tassie, ok. Risk multiple picks to grab that Tassie player is a massive gamble.

Personally, I wouldn't risk any.

We've already got Jones on the list who's indicted he'd be tempted to go home.

 

[Amacca 23]

You’re right it’s not exactly “must be traded” but they’re to be reviewed at the end of 24. Unless North are backing themselves for another season with no improvement, they’d be wise to trade them this year.

These first round picks for end of next year cant be traded as they have stated these can be taken away depending on how they go next year so how can they be used to get pick 4 this year ?

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[Viva la Mattner]

If scared off by the Tas kids, get the Wizard.
Move Rachele to full time mid with Pedlar

 

[PeterSalt]

These first round picks for end of next year cant be traded as they have stated these can be taken away depending on how they go next year so how can they be used to get pick 4 this year ?

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That's the point

The AFL is basically telling them to spend them this year, or run the risk losing them

So North bundle up some picks that include the gifted future picks for GC, who probably already have enough (or close to) points for the players they want to take this year

North are now suddenly interested in Chol, perhaps he could be a part of the deal? He may be handy considering their lack of talls

North get another top 5 pick this year, and GC get a cracking start to their draft hand next year

 

[BunjiMC]

These first round picks for end of next year cant be traded as they have stated these can be taken away depending on how they go next year so how can they be used to get pick 4 this year ?

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Because....AFL

 

[LoBu]

If scared off by the Tas kids, get the Wizard.
Move Rachele to full time mid with Pedlar

I don't mind this, but have reservations about his ability to translate his form to AFL.

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[Viva la Mattner]

I don't mind this, but have reservations about his ability to translate his form to AFL.

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Can say the same thing for any draftee tbh

Looks just naturally gifted, the lesser informed fan base would melt taking another short guy

 

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[Amacca 23]

Because....AFL

No they should not be able to end of story , how can you trade something you may not have ? The other clubs should say piss off they trade them have a decent year next year and the afl removes those picks then what

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[1990crow]

I'm really not sure why we bother.

 

[crows dude]

D jarman went to the hawks iirc the year before the crows came in and only came back later on

No he didnt. He was drafted by Hawthorn. Other players were drafted to like Andrew Jarman and Simo tregenza. All three stayed and played SANFL. Crows were able to draft any uncontracted South Australian. All three were out of contract and DJ was going to sign with crows up until the very last minute decided to re-sign with Hawthorn.

 

[croweater 41]

I need a sick react.

In what world can they argue that what ever they are trying to do is even remotely fair or legal.

 

[Crow till I die]

Not in any way shape or for can they argue it and to even suggest it whilst thumbing it at the crouch worth is an insult to journalism

 

[PeterSalt]

Not in any way shape or for can they argue it and to even suggest it whilst thumbing it at the crouch worth is an insult to journalism

He only got a lazy 18 votes last night .. 2nd to Jack Sinclair on 21 from St Kilda