Rumour 2023 Rumours and Speculation (Rumours total 37!, 1 (busted) BIG FISH ALERT last October 9th) (9 confirmed! 17 Busted!)

[kirky]

I hope we don't get Basset.

Every line he coached at Port was poor when he coached it.


Yeah he did well at Norwood. First ex AFL player to bring an AFL type game to the SANFL.


Just dont think he is a great AFL level coach.



Wouldn't mind him on the 5AA sports show. His media stint before coaching was pretty good.

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Agree.

When he coached Norwood their main weapon was choking its opposition - it was the meanest defence and by a long wat. Not sure that translates as well to the AFL.

 

[Sanders]

But hang on..

regardless of the knowns and unknowns of CTE

at what point does the AFL and the crows have a duty of care to step in and say “sorry Will, but enough is enough.. we cant let you take any further risks“

the precautionary principal in-acted.

its clear that Will is missing the skill or ability to protect himself in certain contests or maybe he’s just unbelievably courageous or maybe he’s just dumb as dogshit on a football field?

how many concussions has he had in his still short career so far?.. it already feels like about half a dozen or more up till now..

and what point does someone else pull the plug for him if he’s not willing to do so himself?..

given moving a young player like him off the main list and onto the rookie list feels like a step towards delisting at contracts end… maybe the club is already getting on the front foot.

At what point? Either the club, the player etc in conjunction with real, actual doctors and clinical experts reviewing actual medical records and history

Not to mention list management in terms of actual performance as well

I can also confidently assert 5 min googlers, Netflix account holders, and frequent flyers won’t be consulted

These are real medical issues for real medical people

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

But hang on..

regardless of the knowns and unknowns of CTE

at what point does the AFL and the crows have a duty of care to step in and say “sorry Will, but enough is enough.. we cant let you take any further risks“

the precautionary principal in-acted.

its clear that Will is missing the skill or ability to protect himself in certain contests or maybe he’s just unbelievably courageous or maybe he’s just dumb as dogshit on a football field?

how many concussions has he had in his still short career so far?.. it already feels like about half a dozen or more up till now..

at what point does someone else pull the plug for him if he’s not willing to do so himself?..

given moving a young player like him off the main list and onto the rookie list feels like a step towards delisting at contracts end… maybe the club is already getting on the front foot.

Hamill has apparently had 8 concussions.

It becomes a concern after 3 in close proximity.

Three or more concussions add up to long-term cognitive problems, study suggests

Multiple concussions in a lifetime were shown to affect the ability to plan and pay attention, though research also underlined health benefits of playing sport

www.theguardian.com

But hey CroMo knows better.

 

[beartoo]

He’s the goat?

He was good but not the greatest.

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[Bearded Clam]

At what point? Either the club, the player etc in conjunction with real, actual doctors and clinical experts reviewing actual medical records and history

Not to mention list management in terms of actual performance as well

I can also confidently assert 5 min googlers, Netflix account holders, and frequent flyers won’t be consulted

These are real medical issues for real medical people

But..

Do you really need to be an actual doctor to watch football and recognise that a lad doesnt protect himself as well as others when it comes to body contact?

pretty sure most of us here can recognise this.

do you really need to be a doctor to know that concussions are no bloody good for you longterm and that the more of them you have the higher the risk?

wouldnt think so.

do we need to be doctors to know Will has had plenty of concussions already in his short career?

no.. we don't because the doctors have already done the work for us by diagnosing him with these concussions and forcing him to miss the next week of football.. we all know Will’s concussion history without even needing to look at his medical files.

just like we all didnt need to be doctors to know that both Allir Allir and Jones were out cold before they even hit the ground in their collision in the showdown and that neither lad should have been allowed back on due to the massive risk of concussion.

sometimes you don't need a doctor’s diagnosis.. you just need to use a bit of common sense.

 

[Sanders]

But..

Do you really need to be an actual doctor to watch football and recognise that a lad doesnt protect himself as well as others when it comes to body contact?

pretty sure most of us here can recognise this.

do you really need to be a doctor to know that concussions are no bloody good for you longterm and that the more of them you have the higher the risk?

wouldnt think so.

do we need to be doctors to know Will has had plenty of concussions already in his short career?

no.. we don't because the doctors have already done the work for us by diagnosing him with these concussions and forcing him to miss the next week of football.. we all know Will’s concussion history without even needing to look at his medical files.

just like we all didnt need to be doctors to know that both Allir Allir and Jones were out cold before they even hit the ground in their collision in the showdown and that neither lad should have been allowed back on due to the massive risk of concussion.

sometimes you don't need a doctor’s diagnosis.. you just need to use a bit of common sense.

You’re joking right?

 

[Bearded Clam]

You’re joking right?

Nope

 

[Sanders]

Nope

Good luck

 

[Bearded Clam]

Good luck

So…

what is it that the doctors have been diagnosing Will with each and every time he has received a heavy knock to the head, forcing him to take the next week off football, if it wasn't concussion??..

 

[Sanders]

So…

what is it that the doctors have been diagnosing Will with each and every time he has received a heavy knock to the head, forcing him to take the next week off football, if it wasn't concussion??..

Who knows? You don’t

 

[feenix67]

Who knows? You don’t

This post more than most you've posted highlights that you don't have any interest in the content, you exist here to merely push whatever point tickles you at the time and pursue it with levels of dogma reserved for high level narcissists.

Bloke gets ragolled, knocked out and stated to have missed the following game(s) due to concussion, yet we don't know why he missed?

Not to mention that CTE can't be diagnosed in living humans as of today. You keep conveniently ignoring the fact your premise relies on a diagnosis a doctor cannot make.

 

[Mostyn]

Hamill has apparently had 8 concussions.

It becomes a concern after 3 in close proximity.

Three or more concussions add up to long-term cognitive problems, study suggests

Multiple concussions in a lifetime were shown to affect the ability to plan and pay attention, though research also underlined health benefits of playing sport

www.theguardian.com

But hey CroMo knows better.

Look, it's a bit creepy to have such strong opinions on someone else's medical history.

I'm confident that the club is getting the best possible advice for both itself and it's players around injury management. It's ridiculous for us on a fan message board to think we have better information.

 

[Scorpus]

Anyone heard that Port has an 8 year, Million dollar a season deal in front of Rozee?

Average AFL salary is expected to be over 30% higher in 2027 at the end of the CBA, relative to 2022.

A $1 million a season deal in this CBA isn't that good for a player expected to be in the conversation for best in the league.

That's like an $800k deal today. Nothing special

 

[El Doederino]

Average AFL salary is expected to be over 30% higher in 2027 at the end of the CBA, relative to 2022.

A $1 million a season deal in this CBA isn't that good for a player expected to be in the conversation for best in the league.

That's like an $800k deal today. Nothing special

I can’t remember if Tredrea or Triple M ran with the story first.

But both added that Rozee will be “the highest paid player in Port history”

You mean, paid higher than Russell Ebert? That’s outrageous.

I would suggest most clubs have a player on their payroll next year who is the highest paid in their history. It’s called inflation.

 

[Crow till I die]

Average AFL salary is expected to be over 30% higher in 2027 at the end of the CBA, relative to 2022.

A $1 million a season deal in this CBA isn't that good for a player expected to be in the conversation for best in the league.

That's like an $800k deal today. Nothing special

Now we know who you are....pictured with gran

 

[Bearded Clam]

Who knows? You don’t

Who knows? You don’t

Look, it's a bit creepy to have such strong opinions on someone else's medical history.

I'm confident that the club is getting the best possible advice for both itself and it's players around injury management. It's ridiculous for us on a fan message board to think we have better information.

But Feenix … that’s the point. We aren’t Hamil’s doctors. We are many degrees separated from that.

If being informed about someone’s medical position can now be ticked off by diagnosing via TV, then sure … let’s call Will now and give him our informed decision.

So… let me get this straight..

We all watched these games and these contests that Will copped a heavy knock to the head, witnessed that he went off the ground in the arms of the docs or on a stretcher, then we were told that he’d failed a concussion test and would be out for the rest of the game and would miss the next game due to concussion protocols..

Yet.. with all this fxxkn evidence in hand.. we cant actually say Will has had concussion or comment on it…

Because… we arent doctors.

Is that what you three are seriously arguing here?

So.. I will ask the question again..

When Will has taken a knock to the head and has been forced to leave the ground and the medico’s at the club have told us he would be missing the following week(s) due to concussion..
what was he actually diagnosed with if it wasnt concussion?

 

[moogerfooger]

But..

Do you really need to be an actual doctor to watch football and recognise that a lad doesnt protect himself as well as others when it comes to body contact?

pretty sure most of us here can recognise this.

do you really need to be a doctor to know that concussions are no bloody good for you longterm and that the more of them you have the higher the risk?

wouldnt think so.

do we need to be doctors to know Will has had plenty of concussions already in his short career?

no.. we don't because the doctors have already done the work for us by diagnosing him with these concussions and forcing him to miss the next week of football.. we all know Will’s concussion history without even needing to look at his medical files.

just like we all didnt need to be doctors to know that both Allir Allir and Jones were out cold before they even hit the ground in their collision in the showdown and that neither lad should have been allowed back on due to the massive risk of concussion.

sometimes you don't need a doctor’s diagnosis.. you just need to use a bit of common sense.

If you ever need brain surgery, would you rather have the opinion of the specialist who's privy to your medical history and has years of experience in the specific area of expertise required for a successful outcome?

Or would you rather trust a random person on the internet who read an article in the media and says "you just need to use a bit of common sense?"

The specialist is not an elitist who needs to be cut down to size. Opinions do not equal facts.

 

[Mostyn]

I just think it's fun for a bunch of blowhard opinionated amateurs like us to throw around a lot of flippant statements about selection policy, say, because ultimately it's not that important.

I think it's creepy to, with a straight face, have opinions on someone's health, and the personal decisions they make. They and the club have information that is private and we'll never know.

Some of the statements here make those involved sound almost incompetent and uncaring, and I think that's pretty insensitive.

 

[1970crow]

They overpay the top end of their list and underpay the bottom end - precisely the reason their list is so shallow in quality.

much better to pay based upon tenure and make spuds like Mackay restricted free agents. Nothing wrong with their strategy, you need the top end talent to compete. The last couple of players picked can be second year draftees on base wages and deliver the same as an overpaid experienced fringe dweller.

 

[1970crow]

Hamill has apparently had 8 concussions.

It becomes a concern after 3 in close proximity.

Three or more concussions add up to long-term cognitive problems, study suggests

Multiple concussions in a lifetime were shown to affect the ability to plan and pay attention, though research also underlined health benefits of playing sport

www.theguardian.com

But hey CroMo knows better.

and you know better than his actual doctors?

 

[1970crow]

So…

what is it that the doctors have been diagnosing Will with each and every time he has received a heavy knock to the head, forcing him to take the next week off football, if it wasn't concussion??..

do you seriously believe that your thoughts on this matter overrule Hamill's actual medical team?

 

[1970crow]

This post more than most you've posted highlights that you don't have any interest in the content, you exist here to merely push whatever point tickles you at the time and pursue it with levels of dogma reserved for high level narcissists.

Bloke gets ragolled, knocked out and stated to have missed the following game(s) due to concussion, yet we don't know why he missed?

Not to mention that CTE can't be diagnosed in living humans as of today. You keep conveniently ignoring the fact your premise relies on a diagnosis a doctor cannot make.

but you can?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Look, it's a bit creepy to have such strong opinions on someone else's medical history.

I'm confident that the club is getting the best possible advice for both itself and it's players around injury management. It's ridiculous for us on a fan message board to think we have better information.

Did you have any concerns when Paddy McCartin made his comeback with the Swans?

CTE is a serious issue that it's weird you find creepy that we are discussing it on a public forum. It impacts on the quality of living & sadly many have taken their own lives.

Unfortunately the odds are that Hamill has CTE given the number of head knocks he has had & how easily he has concussed. This can't be diagnosed whilst he is allve. Yes, it's his choice along with the club that he wants to continue... but does he really understand how it may impact on him later in life. He should be speaking to the likes of Schultz.

 

[George Kramer]

Amy chance we can move this discussion from the rumours thread to the Will Hamill

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Will Hamill

Age

23

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

3star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

2star

MG

135.2

2star

D

8.8

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

MG

135.2

3star

thread?

 

[Sanders]

Go ahead Dr Sanders, please tell me more

Mmmm delicious irony