List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[botts]

The other thing Edmund said of interest re Dylan Shiel.

Essendon NEED to clear his salary.

So I would say Ralph is reporting honestly.

But he is only reporting part of the deal. Clearly more to it.


I said a few days ago a variation I heard had us with pick 8

That makes more sense. Out gresh and the compo, in shiels and 8. We take his full wak

 

[SaintsofSteel]

Its interesting that Clarkson is now sooking to anyone who will listen that McKay has chosen to leave. North Melbourne have just been handed another assistance package and they are still whinging. The one thing of interest to us in Clarkson's statement, was that after this year they consider the next two drafts to be strong midfield drafts with not a lot of key positional depth.

I think if we are seriously considering moving on Howard, then North should be keen and have plenty of draft capital to get it done.

 

[The_Steadier]

Do we just skip all this nonsense about Shiel, and you guys just take the band 2 compo and be done with it?
End of first round pick - 19 for you guys and away we go.

We paid crouch ~550-600 a year x5 and that only got the cows band 3.

And that was before the latest salary cap increase.

How much are you planning on paying gresh?
We're not gonna get band 2 unless it's truckloads (ie probably north of 700k base wage x many years)

 

[botts]

Its interesting that Clarkson is now sooking to anyone who will listen that McKay has chosen to leave. North Melbourne have just been handed another assistance package and they are still whinging. The one thing of interest to us in Clarkson statement, was that after this year they consider the next two drafts to be strong midfield drafts with not a lot of key positional depth.

I think if we are seriously considering moving on Howard then North should be keen and have plenty of draft capital to get it done.

They are gonna have to trade there future first assistant picks or the afl will take them off them

 

[stfan]

Why are the Essendon board coming here trying to negotiate

Dildo Disciples

 

[Diehard Saint]

I come in peace.

How would you guys feel about,

Saints:

Shiel + our #27 + our F2 + still have your #12

Bombers:

Gresham + your compo

Uh no.
We don’t necessarily want Shiel. We want the compo pick to package with the one we have to move up the draft order. We’ll take Shiel as steak knives and pay his salary for you - freeing up you for McKays huge deal Parish etc and other possible trades.

We’re honestly not chasing an injury prone 31 year old with iffy kicking because we want him.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Fair enough.

In that case we pay Gresham less, and you get a pick maybe in the 30's as compo - with no Sheil, #27 and F2.

You pay Gresh less, we get to
Match and keep him. We’re not pushing him out the door.

 

[Diehard Saint]

They are gonna have to trade there future first assistant picks or the afl will take them off them

According to Gerard ( who surprisingly is against the package) Norf actually asked for more!

 

[Sun Ra]

Dildo Disciples

I just had a look over there. There are some sensible souls who are saying they'd be lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him.
Some on there reckon he's cooked - and he can't train until after Xmas.

 

[goodie23]

So Essendon retained Parish and Redman on five year contracts, are bringing in McKay on a fat contract, are talking about bringing in Gresham on a contract that'll prise him out of restricted free agency and could sign Goldstein. There were also reports of a 2 million dollar war chest at the start of the year - which Parish, Redman and McKay would take a massive bite out of.

Meanwhile they've delisted Alastair Lord, Cian McBride, Rhett Montgomerie and Anthony Munkara. Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti

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and Andrew Phillips have retired. BZT gets traded to Port. Update: Massimo D’Ambrosio goes to Hawks. So no significant gains in terms of salary cap.

Shiel's six year contract must be pretty heavily back-ended if the Bombers are this desperate to dump him with two years left (and have been since last year). Looking at all these information it seems likely they can't land Gresh without doing so.

 

[stavro#4]

So Essendon retained Parish and Redman on five year contracts, are bringing in McKay on a fat contract, are talking about bringing in Gresham on a contract that'll prise him out of restricted free agency and could sign Goldstein. There were also reports of a 2 million dollar war chest at the start of the year - which Parish, Redman and McKay would take a massive bite out of.

Meanwhile they've delisted Alastair Lord, Cian McBride, Rhett Montgomerie and Anthony Munkara. Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Andrew Phillips have retired. BZT gets traded to Port. So no significant gains in terms of salary cap.

Shiel's six year contract must be pretty heavily back-ended if the Bombers are this desperate to dump him with two years left (and have been since last year). Looking at all these information it seems likely they can't land Gresh without doing so.

Apparently Shiels due 1m next season.

Edmund said they need to trade him because of their cap pressure when they bring in McKay Gresham and Goldstein

 

[BrutThough]

According to Gerard ( who surprisingly is against the package) Norf actually asked for more!

They wanted pick 3 so they could have picks 2,3,4 this year.

 

[Diehard Saint]

I just had a look over there. There are some sensible souls who are saying they'd be lucky to get a 3rd round pick for him.
Some on there reckon he's cooked - and he can't train until after Xmas.

Some are actually saying good luck to him if he goes - he was sold a lemon- will have more chance of finals with us.

 

[stavro#4]

They wanted pick 3 so they could have picks 2,3,4 this year.

And trade for Gold coasts

So

2 3 4 5

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Of course Sammy Edmund runs with it now. Just ******* runs with everyone else’s story’s without knowing if it’s true or not. w***er

I prefer him of the lot. He’s just cautious. Doesn’t go off half cocked like the rest rushing to be first.

 

[goodie23]

They wanted pick 3 so they could have picks 2,3,4 this year.

Which'll be 3, 4, 5 after academy bidding.

 

[Sun Ra]

I prefer him of the lot. He’s just cautious. Doesn’t go off half cocked like the rest rushing to be first.

 

[jimmytigs]

they have repeatedly stated that parish is on no more than what he was before he re signed,so his name can be taken out of extra sc pressure figures if true

 

[pebblesofsand]

They are gonna have to trade there future first assistant picks or the afl will take them off them

I suspect they will look at live trading them to get Sanders.

 

[Klaatu]

The other thing Edmund said of interest re Dylan Shiel.

Essendon NEED to clear his salary.

So I would say Ralph is reporting honestly.

But he is only reporting part of the deal. Clearly more to it.


I said a few days ago a variation I heard had us with pick 8

Happy either way on Gresham, so when is & why hasn't Gresham nominated his club ESS been finished 4 weeks we have been finished 3 so whats the hold up on nominating.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Should we hit the afl up for compensation if Members can’t play again?
That will be #1 pick Paddy, Bulldogs Stevens, Jack Steven, Members all top talent prematurely lost to issues beyond our control.
Definitely worth the ask.

.

Dylan Roberton.

But don’t hold your breath.
We are the Saints.

 

[PoppedCorn]

I said a few days ago a variation I heard had us with pick 8

Well that’s a bit better
Still not getting us the gun mid with 8 and 12 thou

Unless we somehow package up and trade again?

 

[jimmytigs]

Happy either way on Gresham, so when is & why hasn't Gresham nominated his club ESS been finished 4 weeks we have been finished 3 so whats the hold up on nominating.

maybe advice from dodo,who as soon as he decided he was leaving his hobby job he probably looked at who he could go out a hero on and saw sos and the saints,perfect combo

 

[stavro#4]

Happy either way on Gresham, so when is & why hasn't Gresham nominated his club ESS been finished 4 weeks we have been finished 3 so whats the hold up on nominating.

Because he is happy either way and the clubs are working through this I guess.

Has there ever been a player who nominates and doesn’t get to his club of choice when his current club matches?

Essendon don’t want to trade for him if we match.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Happy either way on Gresham, so when is & why hasn't Gresham nominated his club ESS been finished 4 weeks we have been finished 3 so whats the hold up on nominating.

He doesn't need to nominate.
Nominating isn't even an official part of any process.