List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[stavro#4]

Just listening to SEN talk about Melbourne working on an "earth-shattering trade". Made me wonder as to what that would look like if the Saints were involved. Could we be working on a deal to send Steele over for Pick 5? I don't think it'll happen, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together as where theres smoke theres fire.

Unless Steele requests a trade. He isn’t leaving

 

[BrutThough]

He comes off the books next year in either his entirety or we give him a second year at less then half.

So you have 1 free agents salary ready to go

Likely give him 2 years and spread the money out over it for about 600k for both.

 

[L_W_P]

Just listening to SEN talk about Melbourne working on an "earth-shattering trade". Made me wonder as to what that would look like if the Saints were involved. Could we be working on a deal to send Steele over for Pick 5? I don't think it'll happen, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together as where theres smoke theres fire.

They are making a play for pick 1.

Won't happen as the Eagles will want to make sure they can get Curtin so they need pick 2 or 3 at worst.

 

[Cro19]

Just listening to SEN talk about Melbourne working on an "earth-shattering trade". Made me wonder as to what that would look like if the Saints were involved. Could we be working on a deal to send Steele over for Pick 5? I don't think it'll happen, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together as where theres smoke theres fire.

If there is a team that doesn't need Jack Steele, it's Melbourne. It makes no sense for them. It's more likely they are trying to get a Tom Lynch, someone like that to fix their forward line failures. Or they're trying get Harley Reid.

 

[stavro#4]

Likely give him 2 years and spread the money out over it for about 600k for both.

Either way. As a midfielder is he is upgrade on Gresham.

The first rounder helps us achieve our goal of multiple firsts.

But at 12 and 13 their probably isn’t the gun mids you want coming through the draft

 

[stavro#4]

If there is a team that doesn't need Jack Steele, it's Melbourne. It makes no sense for them. It's more likely they are trying to get a Tom Lynch, someone like that to fix their forward line failures. Or they're trying get Harley Reid.

Harry McKay

 

[Cro19]

Harry McKay

I said fix their failures???

 

[MightySaint]

Harry McKay

Wow!
They've got enough problems converting inside 50s into goals

 

[phantom13]

Either way. As a midfielder is he is upgrade on Gresham.

The first rounder helps us achieve our goal of multiple firsts.

But at 12 and 13 their probably isn’t the gun mids you want coming through the draft

The Shiel deal isnt about Shiel though.

Its gotta be about getting Gresham paid for band 1, which i assume Essendon is fine with provided they clear Shiels cap space.

They probably see a player swap with $200k freed up and we see paying and extra $200k for pick 13.

If Shiel never even plays a game thats a wash. If he gets his body right and get a few games, great, bonus.

 

[hayes]

Why would a midfield than consists of Oliver, Viney and Petrecca want Steele? Makes no sense for either party.

Because they rely on Petracca to solve all their forward problems and at least if he goes forward it’s Steele in the middle rather than someone like Sparrow or Jordon. I can definitely see why they’d want him.

 

[stavro#4]

The Shiel deal isnt about Shiel though.

Its gotta be about getting Gresham paid for band 1, which i assume Essendon is fine with provided they clear Shiels cap space.

They probably see a player swap with $200k freed up and we see paying and extra $200k for pick 13.

If Shiel never even plays a game thats a wash. If he gets his body right and get a few games, great, bonus.

It’s about the draft.

But you’re not taking a player unless he can add some value. Shiel would be our best Clearance mid

 

[RWB4life]

Haynes potentially available if a club comes for him according to tom morris


Another salary dump?

 

[stavro#4]

What BrutThough posted

“More likely stkilda gives up pick 31”

“It’s effectively a pick buy by the saints”

 

[stavro#4]

This is who I was referring to yesterday.

Very early discussions. Let’s see what happens. You can see below why it might not work.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

What BrutThough posted

“More likely stkilda gives up pick 31”

“It’s effectively a pick buy by the saints”

Wonder what they’ll whip up for the Henry trade in that case

 

[stavro#4]

Wonder what they’ll whip up for the Henry trade in that case

Future second?

Still have to work through Paton Coffield Clark Billings and Howard.

I would add Membrey. But who knows there

 

[stavro#4]

And one more to keep an eye on.

Howard to North.

Just see if something starts to develop now they have additional picks

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The Shiel deal isnt about Shiel though.

Its gotta be about getting Gresham paid for band 1, which i assume Essendon is fine with provided they clear Shiels cap space.

They probably see a player swap with $200k freed up and we see paying and extra $200k for pick 13.

If Shiel never even plays a game thats a wash. If he gets his body right and get a few games, great, bonus.

Its all fine, except there needs to be something in it for the Saints.
As its reported , there isn't.

Its also a fact that you can't tie a trade to a free agent Movement.
One has to go before the other.

Possibility.
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Saints trade their current first round pick for pick 8 and Shiel .
THEN: Don's offer a free agency deal for Gresham, if it doesn't trigger the tier 2, we are screwed over. But not really , its still a decent deal to take Shiel off their books.
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Don's offer free agency deal for Gresham and pay him extra to trigger tier 2 . ( which will cost them every year of gresh's contract ).
Then the Dons trust StKilda to take Shiel of their hands for? The compensation pick? With 8 going back? Sorry if 8 isn't coming back i'm walking away right now.
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I can't see the handshake deal thing panning out.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Wonder what they’ll whip up for the Henry trade in that case

Ralphy said 12,13 and a F1

 

[goodie23]

What BrutThough posted

“More likely stkilda gives up pick 31”

“It’s effectively a pick buy by the saints”

A funny twist on that would be

Step 1 - Essendon put up a big fat contract for Gresham
Step 2 - St Kilda gets band 1 compensation
Step 3 - We trade pick 31 to Freo for Henry
Step 4 - We offer 51 for Shiel or they can keep him and his contract

 

[Joffaboy]

This is who I was referring to yesterday.

Very early discussions. Let’s see what happens. You can see below why it might not work.

You would expect one or the other, we couldn't take two 31 year olds whose best are behind them on huge $$$

 

[RWB4life]

And one more to keep an eye on.

Howard to North.

Just see if something starts to develop now they have additional picks

End of first for Howard would be a good return

 

[Tommy Wigs]

This is who I was referring to yesterday.

Very early discussions. Let’s see what happens. You can see below why it might not work.

Absolutely on board provided it’s a decent pick. I’m glad we are using our brains for once. Same as Shiel - player doesn’t matter so much, all about regenerating around that young core

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Would we be happy with a future end of first round for Howard? Needs more i'm thinking.

 

[Klaatu]

This is who I was referring to yesterday.

Very early discussions. Let’s see what happens. You can see below why it might not work.

So he's 32 next year we commit to 2 years, what is thew benefit unless we get a draft pick involved.