Prediction 2024 Round 1 Team

[Pure_Ownage]

Dempsey and mannagh both have to play imo. Which means hard calls with a squeeze for spots esp forward.

Mullin is not ready.
Bews is done.
Neale is decent but hes not playing ahead of henry.

I was really impressed with clark. Hes less ready right now than dempsey snd mannagh are but hes one who if we pump games into i think in 18 months he will really be something. He has so much potential.

Id go

B: zuthrie sdk stewart
HB: Duncan J Henry Holmes
C: Blicavs Bruhn Tuohy
HF: Miers Cameron Close
F: O Henry Hawkins Stengle
R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins
Int: Clark Dempsey Mannagh Bowes MOC

Mannagh or bowes are probably ideal subs as guys who can play multiple roles. Maybe moc too. Kolo will probably be picked (i wouldnt but the club will) so one on the bench misses out.

 

[Vdubs]

26 out there tonight. Olly Henry to come in. So 4 need to go out and 1 other becomes sub.

Neale for Henry is obvious. He's shown a bit but he's not there yet.

I think both Mullin and Bews miss. Mullin needs games but that can be VFL level for not. Bews looks fumbly and uncertain to me. I think his time might be done.

The 4th and sub are really tough. If it were a grand final I think I leave out Clark but he's shown plenty and desperately needs games. So I think I leave out Mannagh and make Tuohy the sub.

Bews will start.
Clark, Mullin, Mannagh will be stiff.

 

[Vdubs]

Ironic too as Vdubs didn't rate that side at the time, so why are we trying to replicate it?

In all seriousness, all of Dempsey, Bowes & Mannagh have to play. Whether that be two starting and one as the sub, then so be it.

Admittedly he was the fresh legs, but we looked a much more dynamic midfield when Bowes was injected in. That's two very good performances in a row, he deserves a shot.

Neale misses out as O Henry will play, and Rohan may be available too. He'll get plenty of chances though, and deserves them, but the circumstances are against him right now.

Prove it Walter.
Not being convinced of a flag (I never will be after 08), does not mean not rate.
I'm talking about selections here where the MC has faith in proven players who are not yet gone.
Bews, Kolo fit that bill.
Tuohy- not sure.
Rohan being injured makes that one easier

 

[Catastrophe!]

We have more than enough guys pushing for spots, we need to be moving past the old guard and trialling fresh faces and fresh ideas.

Bews, Kolo and Tuohy shouldn't all play Round 1 for mine. They just do not offer enough. Tuohy I can accept while Rohan is out, and O'Connor shouldn't either, but I imagine he's the the most versatile and he is by far the youngest. Rohan is another who can play bursts of games, but should be rested intermittently. At least he's impactful when he plays.

If Clark, Dempsey, Mannagh, Bowes aren't in Round 1, and the aforementioned are, then I genuinely think that Scott may need to move on soon - as that may evidence that we're still too attached to the previous era, rather than being present in the current post 2022 one.

Too many favourites, and not enough focus on the future and getting games into players for next year - when we will inevitably lose a lot of players. Stanley looks like he's on his last legs too.

This is the side I'd like, but probably not the side we'll see:

B: Zuthrie, SDK, Duncan
HB: Stewart, J. Henry, Holmes
C: Miers, Bowes, Blics
FO: Stanley, Danger, Bruhn
HF: O. Henry, Jez, Dempsey
F: Close, Hawkins, Stengle
INT: T. Atkins, J. Clark, O'Connor, Mannagh
Sub: Tuohy

EMG: Conway, Kolo, S. Neale, Bews

 

[Balardong]

Thanks, seems I mixed up my covid affected years

Easy mistake, 2023 was the first time Lawson nominated for the AFL draft because he had been focusing on his anthropology studies

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Easy mistake, 2023 was the first time Lawson nominated for the AFL draft because he had been focusing on his anthropology studies

Ah wow, didn't know he didn't nominate. I knew he went to a fancy school so probably had some non-footy ambitions but I had presumed West Coast had simply overlooked him back in the day.

 

[Two Planks]

If Touhy and O'Connor get picked ahead of Dempsey, Mannagh and Clark it's a disgrace.

 

[D BRIDGE]

If Touhy and O'Connor get picked ahead of Dempsey, Mannagh and Clark it's a disgrace.

I’d love to see this guy in, but I think he has come on late and played maybe about 1.5 quarters in each practice match.

It doesn’t fill me with confidence the we’re expecting to select him prior to yesterday.

When he has come on he has instantly gotten involved, found the ball, looked composed and being an effective threat in scoring chains.

I think he is ready to go.

Should play plenty of semi footy this year… maybe not R1 though.

Think he is still a slight chance to play or be sub.

 

[Sammy1992]

This is how I would go in as our lineup in 2 weeks:
B: Z Guthrie De Koning Kolojashnij

HB: Stewart J Henry Holmes

C Blicavs Bowes Duncan

HF O Henry Cameron Close

F Stengle Hawkins Dempsey

R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins

INTER: Bruhn, Miers, O Connor, Clark.
Sub:/Mannagh.
Unlucky: Tuohy
Thoughts?

 

[Hamingja]

I’d love to see this guy in, but I think he has come on late and played maybe about 1.5 quarters in each practice match.

It doesn’t fill me with confidence the we’re expecting to select him prior to yesterday.

When he has come on he has instantly gotten involved, found the ball, looked composed and being an effective threat in scoring chains.

I think he is ready to go.

Should play plenty of semi footy this year… maybe not R1 though.

Think he is still a slight chance to play or be sub.

Disappointed Mannagh hasn't had more game time personally in the two pre season matches.

Lots of people still picking him in the Rd1 team but would have thought sub as best based on the limited time they have given him.

 

[FootyLad0]

Couple of changes. Stanley and Dempsey come in for Conway and Kolo.

B: Bews, SDK, Z.Guthrie
HB: Duncan, J.Henry, Stewart
C: Holmes, Bruhn, Mannagh
HF: Close, Cameron, Miers
F: Stengle, Hawkins, O.Henry

Foll: Stanley, Dangerfield, Bowes

Int: Blicavs, Clark, Atkins, Dempsey

Sub: Tuohy

Interesting to go with Bruhn and Bowes starting over Blics and Atkins (think both of those will be swapped) but I am with you on the Mannagh inclusion 1000%

The guy has "IT" factor about him, even in his short time on the field.
Dempsey earned his spot with his pressure acts (number 1 against Dons) and ability to play tall or small even for his height.

Feel bad for Neale but there's just not enough spots for the big fella.
Hope to see Conway unseat Stanley this year, Rhys has been a battle tested bloke but we need Toby to get his shot at AFL level.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Disappointed Mannagh hasn't had more game time personally in the two pre season matches.

Lots of people still picking him in the Rd1 team but would have thought sub as best based on the limited time they have given him.

I gotta say I feel the same.

I would have thought we would’ve wanted to give him more time v AFL players to see what he can do.

I do think we saw that he looks good enough, but if he plays a full game or two from these practice matches maybe he has a couple of 20 possession, multiple goal games and that really should be enough to be in our B22.

He probably got maybe 3 quarters from both practice matches combined.

 

[CHAWKTS]

This is how I would go in as our lineup in 2 weeks:
B: Z Guthrie De Koning Kolojashnij

HB: Stewart J Henry Holmes

C Blicavs Bowes Duncan

HF O Henry Cameron Close

F Stengle Hawkins Dempsey

R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins

INTER: Bruhn, Miers, O Connor, Clark.
Sub:/Mannagh.
Unlucky: Tuohy
Thoughts?

That is probably exactly how I would go.

Alas I reckon they are going to play 2E early to see if he gets going. So someone needs to miss out I think

 

[Footy Smarts]

Bews will start.
Clark, Mullin, Mannagh will be stiff.

I'd be pretty stunned if we don't play Clark in round 1. As sub at the very least.

I think O'Connor is clearly in front of Bews in the pecking order but I'd be less surprised by him being left out for Bews than by Clark being left out for Bews.

 

[terry_bright]

This is how I would go in as our lineup in 2 weeks:
B: Z Guthrie De Koning Kolojashnij

HB: Stewart J Henry Holmes

C Blicavs Bowes Duncan

HF O Henry Cameron Close

F Stengle Hawkins Dempsey

R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins

INTER: Bruhn, Miers, O Connor, Clark.
Sub:/Mannagh.
Unlucky: Tuohy
Thoughts?

I only change I’d make is Tuohy for Mannagh.

Nothing against Mannagh’s performances in pre-season, and he’ll get plenty of games throughout the year, but he’s only played a 1.5 qtr in each praccy game.
Unless he can get a gig as a midfielder/winger, he’s fighting for a place in an area we have plenty of depth.

 

[dangerwood]

Dempsey and mannagh both have to play imo. Which means hard calls with a squeeze for spots esp forward.

Mullin is not ready.
Bews is done.
Neale is decent but hes not playing ahead of henry.

I was really impressed with clark. Hes less ready right now than dempsey snd mannagh are but hes one who if we pump games into i think in 18 months he will really be something. He has so much potential.

Id go

B: zuthrie sdk stewart
HB: Duncan J Henry Holmes
C: Blicavs Bruhn Tuohy
HF: Miers Cameron Close
F: O Henry Hawkins Stengle
R: Stanley Dangerfield Atkins
Int: Clark Dempsey Mannagh Bowes MOC

Mannagh or bowes are probably ideal subs as guys who can play multiple roles. Maybe moc too. Kolo will probably be picked (i wouldnt but the club will) so one on the bench misses out.

I like it and your last bloke there MOC can go.

 

[FootyLad0]

Just for anyone curious, Clark's stats yesterday were:

17 disposals at 94.1% efficiency (TEAM HIGH)
10 contested possessions (TEAM HIGH)
6 intercept possessions (2nd highest on team)
5 free kicks for (TEAM HIGH)
4 tackles (2nd highest on team)
4 clearances (2nd highest on team)

Any naysayers about Jhye Clark and not picking him for Round 1 are crazy.
There's been a few here criticising his disposal which as per above should quiet that noise down.

He has more than proven he's ready to go!

 

[Mr Meow]

That is probably exactly how I would go.

Alas I reckon they are going to play 2E early to see if he gets going. So someone needs to miss out I think

Surely Tuohy can only make it if MOC is squeezed out, a move I'm not sure they'll make.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Just for anyone curious, Clark's stats yesterday were:

17 disposals at 94.1% efficiency (TEAM HIGH)
10 contested possessions (TEAM HIGH)
6 intercept possessions (2nd highest on team)
5 free kicks for (TEAM HIGH)
4 tackles (2nd highest on team)
4 clearances (2nd highest on team)

Any naysayers about Jhye Clark and not picking him for Round 1 are crazy.
There's been a few here criticising his disposal which as per above should quiet that noise down.

He has more than proven he's ready to go!

He looks a bit nervy with his kicking when he has time to think. He missed 1 short kick to Cameron in the first quarter. But that's pretty normal for a kid early in his career and there's no technical issues with his kicking.

But his handballing in close is unreal.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

So I have basically agreed with Mr Meow with one change. I like Clark but with his disposals in the preseason match I would like to see him run out in the vfl first.

Tuohy in for him but his body is a watch.

FB: Z.Guthrie De Koning J.Henry
HB: Stewart Kolodjashnij Duncan
C: Holmes Atkins Blicavs
HF: Miers Cameron Close
FF: O.Henry Hawkins Stengle
FOL: Stanley Bowes Dangerfield

IC: Bruhn O'Connor Dempsey Tuohy

I guess I would also debut Mannagh as sub.

Updating round 1 team to reflect preseason games. Just flicked MOC to sub with Clark who now cannot be denied a starting 22 spot. I may regret the lack of flexibility with MOC on field though

FB: Z.Guthrie De Koning J.Henry
HB: Stewart Kolodjashnij Holmes
C: Duncan Atkins Blicavs
HF: Miers Cameron Close
FF: O.Henry Hawkins Stengle
FOL: Stanley Bowes Dangerfield

IC: Bruhn Clark Dempsey Tuohy

Sub: MOC

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If Touhy and O'Connor get picked ahead of Dempsey, Mannagh and Clark it's a disgrace.

I agree but i am preparing to be disappointed.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I’d love to see this guy in, but I think he has come on late and played maybe about 1.5 quarters in each practice match.

It doesn’t fill me with confidence the we’re expecting to select him prior to yesterday.

When he has come on he has instantly gotten involved, found the ball, looked composed and being an effective threat in scoring chains.

I think he is ready to go.

Should play plenty of semi footy this year… maybe not R1 though.

Think he is still a slight chance to play or be sub.

Mannaghs ball use is good and half our side isnt. That gets him in imo.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Mannaghs ball use is good and half our side isnt. That gets him in imo

Completely agree.

I think he can rotate through the middle in spurts and be instantly effective.

6 score involvements from 8 touches in 1.5 quarters is no fluke… the guy gets into good positions and just knows what to do with it.

8 score involvements was a game high to Close… a few more had 7 and 6 (like Mannagh).

Give him a full or near full game and he probably has 10+ score involvements and it’s hard to leave him out.

I think us not playing him for longer might cost him… and it won’t even be due to his form because he really couldn’t have done more in the limited minutes he was given in both games.

 

[Mr Meow]

Completely agree.

I think he can rotate through the middle in spurts and be instantly effective.

6 score involvements from 8 touches in 1.5 quarters is no fluke… the guy gets into good positions and just knows what to do with it.

8 score involvements was a game high to Close… a few more had 7 and 6 (like Mannagh).

Give him a full or near full game and he probably has 10+ score involvements and it’s hard to leave him out.

I think us not playing him for longer might cost him… and it won’t even be due to his form because he really couldn’t have done more in the limited minutes he was given in both games.

I'm with you.

Sadly I think Mannagh needed Dempsey to disappoint to have a chance of starting in round 1.

O'Connor and Kolodjashnij haven't done much to convince but have high job security and would be higher up on Scott's needs for roles.

Maybe we'll be surprised. What's the most realistic way he'd be squeezed in?

FB: Z.Guthrie De Koning J.Henry
HB: Stewart Kolodjashnij Duncan

C: Holmes Dangerfield Blicavs
FOL: Stanley Bruhn Bowes

HF: Miers Cameron Close
FF: O.Henry Hawkins Stengle

IC: Atkins Clark Dempsey Mannagh Tuohy(sub)

It's a defender short on Scott's preferred line ups. Holmes spending time at half back is a wild card - maybe he's the 7th defender (but usually there is one from the bench). It would then need to be sold that Dempsey, Miers, Mannagh or Bowes spend significant time on the wing.

More likely is Tuohy starts and Mannagh is the sub. And that's before we even get to the fact that MOC finds it very hard to get dropped.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'm with you.

Sadly I think Mannagh needed Dempsey to disappoint to have a chance of starting in round 1.

O'Connor and Kolodjashnij haven't done much to convince but have high job security and would be higher up on Scott's needs for roles.

Maybe we'll be surprised. What's the most realistic way he'd be squeezed in?

FB: Z.Guthrie De Koning J.Henry
HB: Stewart Kolodjashnij Duncan

C: Holmes Dangerfield Blicavs
FOL: Stanley Bruhn Bowes

HF: Miers Cameron Close
FF: O.Henry Hawkins Stengle

IC: Atkins Clark Dempsey Mannagh Tuohy(sub)

It's a defender short on Scott's preferred line ups. Holmes spending time at half back is a wild card - maybe he's the 7th defender (but usually there is one from the bench). It would then need to be sold that Dempsey, Miers, Mannagh or Bowes spend significant time on the wing.

More likely is Tuohy starts and Mannagh is the sub. And that's before we even get to the fact that MOC finds it very hard to get dropped.

You can squeeze them in.
Effectively dempsey takes rohan spot and mannagh takes smiths.
But miers prob needs to play higher up near the wing (unless bowes does).
You drop a couple of kolo and moc or tuohy to do it though.