List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[stavro#4]

I come in peace knowing our list is more cooked than yours… but I reckon you guys might be heading for a downward slide with some questionable list calls.

Aren’t you worried SOS is making a few irrational decisions? I saw it first hand at Carlton with the ex-GWS spuds that crippled us – Plowman, Sumner, Lamb, Phillips, Jaksch – and his ego wouldn’t let him admit the mistakes. Feels like it’s happening again with the Saints raiding the Blues (Dow, Stocker, J Carroll and soon TDK).

Seems like he’s letting personal grudges influence decisions too – overpaying for TDK and now risking losing Nasiah. I like TDK’s ceiling, it’s higher than Marshall’s because of age, but his floor is much lower. Marshall still gives you a 7–8/10 most weeks. Nasiah’s ceiling is a genuine 10/10 and his floor is still 7–8/10. Losing him would be massive.

Even if you keep Nasiah, aren’t you worried that when guys like Tauru, Philippou etc come out of contract you might struggle to keep them too? If Nasiah goes, surely SOS’s position becomes pretty shaky.

It’s weird you Carlton supporters still go on about the bloke who left your club in 2019.

Then claim he is making the same mistakes with us as he did with you.

Reality is that he never signed Cerra, Saad, WILLIAMS, Hewett etc.

He wasn’t the reason you spent the majority of your salary cap on Weitering Cripps Walsh McGovern Cerra McKay etc who all signed new deals between 2020-25.

And whilst the selection of Jagga looked fantastic at the time. Not sure he was an exact list need for you and you traded picks 12+14 in a draft that had Berry Reid Trainor Hynes Armstrong etc still on the board.

Hard to see your point about what he is doing to us. Seems like your current list managers did it to you

 

[StCicatriz]

Mini about to hurt their priority picks submissions

 

[snails13]

Port board now taking the morale high ground saying we are monsters calling him a mummer's boy and that he will get the proper support by Port etc

Most of them don't leave the suburb they live in

 

[Sainter88]

Most of them don't leave the suburb they live in

Bit hard to even leave the front door with an ankle monitor

 

[BarkerFan]

The rumour is that Windy/Agent are asking for north of $850k a year.

We want to keep him but the difference could be 150-200k in offers.

Pay him

 

[SainterinSydney]

Flyin Ryan kicked 3 and had a good game against Crows

 

[Joffaboy]

Pay him

And you will cry tears when Tauru leaves because we maxed out the SC

 

[jwikked]

Pay him

No other team is gonna pay him that much, I like the guy, but that's a lot of money for his output so far.

 

[botts]

No other team is gonna pay him that much, I like the guy, but that's a lot of money for his output so far.

Probably like most negotiating. He says he wants 850. We say 450. Meet somewhere in the middle. No one is paying him 850 and he is first rounders worthy. So someone needs to trade for him. It will sort itself out

 

[Captain Paddy]

TDK and Nasiah arent linked.

They're linked by way of us bragging about the war chest and throwing around outrageous offers which then gives his manager a green light to dig the heels in and demand the same/more

 

[gubby88]

They're linked by way of us bragging about the war chest and throwing around outrageous offers which then gives his manager a green light to dig the heels in and demand the same/more

can you pin point any time the club has bragged about a war chest?


or is it only the media adding 2 and 2 and getting 58 like usual?

 

[MightySaintas]

They're linked by way of us bragging about the war chest and throwing around outrageous offers which then gives his manager a green light to dig the heels in and demand the same/more

His SA suiters are the ones bidding up his value. Nothing to do with TDK

 

[Parkysp]

They're linked by way of us bragging about the war chest and throwing around outrageous offers which then gives his manager a green light to dig the heels in and demand the same/more

This is where the AFL has us by the balls. We sit back and remain submissive we keep finishing 9th or 10th. We get up and about and try and attract players and we're f*ing up our current list. It's a ploy to keep us in our box. If we lose Nas because he wants to go home that was happening regardless. I honestly would rather die with us staggering up onto our legs than being on our knees thanking the AFL for any morsel. Windy has had opportunities he wouldn't have had at many clubs with great development.

The AFL suckhole media want us on our knees never forget that as it is a fact. Everything else is pure and biased speculation.

 

[jwikked]

This is where the AFL has us by the balls. We sit back and remain submissive we keep finishing 9th or 10th. We get up and about and try and attract players and we're f*ing up our current list. It's a ploy to keep us in our box. If we lose Nas because he wants to go home that was happening regardless. I honestly would rather die with us staggering up onto our legs than being on our knees thanking the AFL for any morsel. Windy has had opportunities he wouldn't have had at many clubs with great development.

The AFL suckhole media want us on our knees never forget that as it is a fact. Everything else is pure and biased speculation.

It's the AFLs fault we finish 9th or 10th? lmao ok

 

[Parkysp]

It's the AFLs fault we finish 9th or 10th? lmao ok

No. Not what I said. I was literally talking about us getting up off our knees. FA is not open to us because it fcks our list...supposedly. And when I was talking about the AFL I was talking about the whole eco system. We are beggars at a bowl. But whatever

 

[Minga]

It's the AFLs fault we finish 9th or 10th? lmao ok

To be fair, the fixturing has been shithouse. Just played north for the first time, haven’t played bombers yet.

Easy to read into the conspiracies, but the thing that makes most sense if just following the basic and systemic inequities across the league.

If we don’t finish bottom 6 this year there’s a part of me that’ll be frustrated knowing the implications of how that’ll impact the fixture next year, let alone draft order in this compromised draft & comp picks.

 

[gringo2011]

Nobody will be happy if we lose NAZ or Windy, but if we sign them ( and others ( for way overs now, in three years the club will get hammered for Maxing out the SC and Tauru or a Dodson walks.
It easy on a footy forum, I have been doing it for decades

You want to pay crazy money for TDK and Aleer but would let our own better players walk out over a couple of hundred thousand. We have the dumbest fans in footy.

 

[jwikked]

To be fair, the fixturing has been shithouse. Just played north for the first time, haven’t played bombers yet.

Easy to read into the conspiracies, but the thing that makes most sense if just following the basic and systemic inequities across the league.

If we don’t finish bottom 6 this year there’s a part of me that’ll be frustrated knowing the implications of how that’ll impact the fixture next year, let alone draft order in this compromised draft & comp picks.

If we need a bottom 6 finish, to get an easy draw, in order to play finals - we don't deserve to play finals

 

[ScrappyDo]

If we don’t finish bottom 6 this year there’s a part of me that’ll be frustrated knowing the implications of how that’ll impact the fixture next year, let alone draft order in this compromised draft & comp picks.

If we need a bottom 6 finish, to get an easy draw, in order to play finals - we don't deserve to play finals

Like they give us easy fixtures anyway no matter where we finish. It's the broadcasters that make the thing up anyway.

 

[StFly]

Does the tuna sandwich have mayo in it? And lots of salt and pepper. Maybe some sweet chilli. That would be acceptable.

It is whatever you wish it to be, the sandwich is the awkward conversations we made along the lines of list management queries. Most of the time it ends up toasted.

 

[chris_h_11]

If someone else has offered Windy north of $850k, he needs to take that. Good luck to him.

That's first round trade territory, whoever it is is gonna need to cough up some serious picks to make it happen.

 

[Diehard Saint]

If someone else has offered Windy north of $850k, he needs to take that. Good luck to him.

That's first round trade territory, whoever it is is gonna need to cough up some serious picks to make it happen.

That’s why it’s not going to happen.

 

[Parkysp]

If someone else has offered Windy north of $850k, he needs to take that. Good luck to him.

That's first round trade territory, whoever it is is gonna need to cough up some serious picks to make it happen.

Yeah. Did Windy turn into Nathan Burke and I missed it on a rare game I don't go to?

 

[mighty_sainters]

Some of the key forwards drafted last year have already really impressed me.

Dogs, Crows and Hawks running with 3/4 key forwards and we can hardly muster one.

 

[Joffaboy]

You want to pay crazy money for TDK and Aleer but would let our own better players walk out over a couple of hundred thousand. We have the dumbest fans in footy.

Don't drink and post, you make zero sense.
Tell me the contracts offered TO TDK and Aleer.
You are the one bleating about maxing out the cap and you want to fo what the club did with Dunstan, Billings and those other spuds.
Sleep it off soak.