MrSlippyFist
Draftee
- May 1, 2024
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- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
Hilariously ignorant comment.Any Vic team that relocated to NT would be safer than here in Melbourne
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Hilariously ignorant comment.Any Vic team that relocated to NT would be safer than here in Melbourne
Hilariously ignorant comment.
But the AFL has twice relocated Melbourne teams.
And already tried to relocate NM
Once.
And even that one relocation was at the behest of the South Melbourne board in 1981, when they proposed to play all 1982 home games in Sydney and all away games at the then VFL Park under lights. The VFL approved the South Melbourne proposal to play 11 home games in Sydney.
And failed. The board opposed it and the AFL knew it couldn't make them move.
Dear oh dear. That didn't happen either.Relocation… merged
The point still stands.
And like the rest of the points I’ve raised, I expect you to either not get it or be oppositional for the sake of an argument or being right
You're conveniently ignoring that the financial realities are different now than they were 15 years ago, when merger discussions were vaguely relevant.Relocation… merged
The point still stands. And like the rest of the points I’ve raised, I expect you to either not get it or be oppositional for the sake of an argument or being right
The AFL refused to contribute more than base level funding for Tasmania, and as a result, the contract stipulates that the Tas Government is required to provide the Devils with an additional $12m pa to cover the funding gap. The NT’s strategic business case (released last week) projects a $18.89m pa funding gap for a NT-based club.Money will need to be raised for an NT team
Some of this will come from governments, expanding TV rights deal, sponsors, etc
The AFL is responsible for the rest
This will immediately hurt the bottom line of a handful of vic clubs with NM, Saints and Dogs being most vulnerable
Dear oh dear. That didn't happen either.
One relocation. 1982. Voluntary.
One relocation only. And that was voluntary.
If you didn't make so many errors, I wouldn't need to correct them.
There will be a 20th AFL club before any relocation of a Melbourne club to...well.... anywhere outside Victoria.
For reasons I have already explained.
My points stand.
You know too well what I’m saying
Your nitpicking, right fighting over someone having a contrary read on a topic to yours…
just says more about your personality than anything else
Why be a moderator in this case…
Dillon's latest comments on the 20th team. At least Canberra got a mention, of course the AFL knows it's an option, they've been mentioned before in some Fox articles and others.
"Our focus at AFL House is fairly and squarely on the 19th team, but it’s a great debate again for the 20th team,” Dillon said.
“We have got interest from the NT, there’s interest in North Queensland. People have been talking about a third team out of WA, [or] Canberra, so it’s great that there is interest. Long may that debate continue."
I know I'm probably too optimistic when reading into things, but I see this as a positive for Canberra.
If they wanted to rush things to get a 20th team as soon as possible, that would favour WA3. But the fact they want to wait and do it right favours Canberra.
It gives time for the Giants partnership to run its course, for NSW/ACT pathways to grow, for Manuka to get upgraded, and for Greater Canberra to grow to about 650k people (and the Capital Region to grow to >800k.
Also the first time I've heard Canberra mentioned by the AFL and not immediately followed by "is Giants territory".
How many interstate teams have the afl allowed to fold? How many have had to relocate?
But the AFL has twice relocated Melbourne teams. And already tried to relocate NM
Meeting some real dumb NM supporters on here
They’re actually not. The AFL has only committed to base-level funding for Tassie and that’s why the contract with the government stipulates that the state government is required to contribute $12m of funding to the club for its first 12 years of existence. They are, however, increasing funding to the state body for community footy and talent pathways.Tassie is going to need heaps of funding.
You make a lot of sense but I'm really tired of the narrative that the NT makes the game truly national and completes the jigsaw puzzle. ACT should not count as part of NSW.
I don't see the big deal in going to 22 teams in the future. I can understand the reservations about going beyond that, but honestly, if there's a narrative to fulfil here about the national profile of the game, there could be a place for the Northern Territory and North Queensland in 30+ years time with their own brand new clubs.
NT would be the last piece of the puzzle after ACT and NQ would factor in as the only other unrepresented place that's probably going to be interested in having a team.
I don't see New Zealand or Newcastle or wherever else demanding a team and I'm not sure in the future that the AFL should continue adding teams in locations that didn't ask for them.
Also, NQ might become its own state one day, so having a team there eventually will ensure that every state in the AFL has a team.
If NT does get team 20, the Suns should move their two games to Cairns and cover NQ.Yeh I think the AFL is big on the national profile concept. How that looks in reality is hard to know.
I agree with your comment that the linking of NSW/ACT is not ideal. I get all the points re Canberra having a stand alone AFL club are valid.
Apart from the obvious population/location etc. Canberra clearly has huge relevance for the AFL...Iconic AFL players Hird, Jesaulenko. An Aussie Rules competition has existed in Canberra almost since Canberra was founded. Even in footy folklore it is relevant....The Barassi Line runs straight thru the ACT, ....Tom Wills who was the key protagonist in starting Aussie Rules was born near the Molonglo river 80 years before they even called it Canberra.
There are a host of reasons why Canberra is a critical location for the AFL, so to have the 20th team there makes a lot of sense.....however the dilemma is that an exclusion of NT would be highly undesirable for the AFL in the long term...particularly as the AFL sees itself as key vehicle in promoting social issues.
Maybe there are other options for Canberra perhaps involving several AFL clubs not just the Giants.
the argument doesnt stand up though. yesterday's game just demolished her argument. better teams? like 2nd on the ladder geelong?Article in yesterday’s News Limited website, that is positive about NT’s team 20 prospects. The main negative seems to be about Cornes claims about the quality of the North match, which Holmes blames on the quality of North (!). There is no mention of the various other metrics that have been discussed in this thread - population, distances, weather etc.
There are reports the Northern Territory has taken a big step towards becoming the AFL’s 20th team, releasing a business case for the licence as well as a new stadium to be built in Darwin’s CBD over the next seven to 10 years at a reported cost of $700-735 million.
It’s a move that would make the AFL a truly national competition as the Darwin team would likely come in a few years after Tasmania join the competition in 2028.
The people supporting an NT team don’t really understand the logistics. Their main reason is “it would be nice”. It’s supposed to be a professional football league. Not a charity.Article in yesterday’s News Limited website, that is positive about NT’s team 20 prospects. The main negative seems to be about Cornes claims about the quality of the North match, which Holmes blames on the quality of North (!). There is no mention of the various other metrics that have been discussed in this thread - population, distances, weather etc.
There are reports the Northern Territory has taken a big step towards becoming the AFL’s 20th team, releasing a business case for the licence as well as a new stadium to be built in Darwin’s CBD over the next seven to 10 years at a reported cost of $700-735 million.
It’s a move that would make the AFL a truly national competition as the Darwin team would likely come in a few years after Tasmania join the competition in 2028.