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3 disgraced cricketers, one recurring voice

Should they just shut up and stay out of the media?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 73.2%
  • No

    Votes: 11 15.5%
  • Get stuffed!

    Votes: 8 11.3%

  • Total voters
    71

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Starc can’t get the reverse swing going anymore ,I wonder what has changed, anyone who believes the bowlers didn’t know, is stupid, the “cheating” has been going on for some time,it’s just that they got caught with sandpaper, has anyone checked the sticking plaster on Warner’s hands?
 
Starc can’t get the reverse swing going anymore ,I wonder what has changed, anyone who believes the bowlers didn’t know, is stupid, the “cheating” has been going on for some time,it’s just that they got caught with sandpaper, has anyone checked the sticking plaster on Warner’s hands?
yo ST, are we complicit cos we cheered? I put my hand up, I loved how Starc displaced poles Linda Lovelace style. Well, he displaced the wicket and stump poles.

Everyone loved how he would clean up the tail. Apart from Doull and Geeves no one else has made mention of it. We just have the muppet Longstaff at St James Ethics Centre doing the Commonwealth Inquiry. No questioning under oath of Starc and his Irish relatives. All shtum.

first rule of Inquiries is like Fight Club rules but different, you only commission an Inquiry if you know the outcome.

oh well, DW and Smith and Bancroft paid the price for us all.

aint there an Indian batsman who wears similar plaster when in the field. Gotta be those blisters from the gloves they give you from MRF Madras Rubber Factory Limited just like Bridgestone Beaurepairs and Beaumaris and Goodyear and Firestone and Pirelli and Michelin they make great F! F1 tires. ?
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no youtube vids in the new forum. wtf Chief, he of unmatched wisdom? medusala Chief, he of unmatched wisdom lost the plot.

https://youtu.be/cIYfiRyPi3o?t=80

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Absolutely we all cheered , now that he can’t do it anymore people are saying he ain’t trying, Christ I bowled swing when I was younger and I couldn’t get it to go reverse, in Australia , in New Guinea ( Lae ) it swung a mile but never in reverse
 

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Starc can’t get the reverse swing going anymore ,I wonder what has changed, anyone who believes the bowlers didn’t know, is stupid, the “cheating” has been going on for some time,it’s just that they got caught with sandpaper, has anyone checked the sticking plaster on Warner’s hands?

Of course the entire team was in on it, as bowlers they'd have to be brain dead to not know!
 
Starc can’t get the reverse swing going anymore ,I wonder what has changed, anyone who believes the bowlers didn’t know, is stupid, the “cheating” has been going on for some time, it’s just that they got caught with sandpaper, has anyone checked the sticking plaster on Warner’s hands?
It was clear something was up against England a year ago. They were consistently reversing it from 25-30 overs, while they managed it inside 10 overs against the Saffas - that's unheard of. Maybe they somehow smuggled their own ball on the field or something, or found some concrete to "accidentally" rough it up with, or "accidentally" dropped a water bottle on one side, soaking the ball.

You can guarantee that whatever was going on with the ball, David Warner was at the centre of it and Steve Smith knew. The old adage goes "it isn't cheating if you don't get caught".
 
Having actually watched the ad on TV now (didn't click on the embedded video originally, soz), I definitely see what you mean OP, it's so gross. The way it comes across as some kind of mental health issue, how vile. Part of Steve's job was to uphold the integrity of the sport which he made a conscious decision not to do, I don't know who wrote that script but they make it sound like he cheated on his wife or got dealt a bad hand in life. "Dark space"? "Upfront and honest"? (<- that line made me laugh). Fine, I understand in the aftermath he'd be going through a crisis, but he's one of the most durable cricketers on the planet famous for his mental resilience, what the hell would he know about the mental problems ordinary people go through? We all know he got a backroom assurance from CA about getting his place back eventually if he played the PR game, so not like boyo is out of options. I wish I could unsee that ad, it certainly triggered my disgust.
 
You can guarantee that whatever was going on with the ball, David Warner was at the centre of it and Steve Smith knew. The old adage goes "it isn't cheating if you don't get caught".
if they all knew are not they all equally complicit, or does DW deserve disproportionate share? lawfacultyphilosophy101 i 'spose.

This prompts me to recall the Simon Doull interview on SEN's The Sporting Capital that Jack Heverin hosted, when Doull said he thought the Australians would not leave a few to hang out to dry to carry the can for all, to mix those two metaphors or euphemisms. He said the thought the Aussies were better. Guess what SD, we ain't, we are human like the rest.

It is very unseemly to hate on DW /grammar. The media piled on, the people piled on, the true unseemly trope or phenomenon of this affair is how we have all been complicit on one player, albeit a bit of a pundenda* the person, but the person and the player should be mutually exclusive no? Otherwise we would not cheer on when said c_nut has scored a ton in the first session of the Boxing Day match and we are downing pint after pint in the Bullring. A modern day d'affaire Dreyfus in an Australian lens where being a sportsman, a 'good guy', and a sorry mate server is the apotheosis of one's aspirational achievement.

*pudenda qualifier as before. i use the plural when talking/writing in the singular. skilts gave me permission.
 
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Having actually watched the ad on TV now
it is a piece of shit innit

one has to blame Richmond and their premiership year and their stupid Mens Sheds talking about their feelings and all this bullshit, Brandon Ellis et al, and Danny Frawley's SEN show Never Let a Man Walk Home Alone or some shite. He is a smart guy Danny Frawley, if you are comparing IQs of used prophylactics to a person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkC46v_0nb0
 
it is a piece of shit innit

one has to blame Richmond and their premiership year and their stupid Mens Sheds talking about their feelings and all this bullshit, Brandon Ellis et al, and Danny Frawley's SEN show Never Let a Man Walk Home Alone or some shite. He is a smart guy Danny Frawley, if you are comparing IQs of used prophylactics to a person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkC46v_0nb0
For nearly 1 million views, it has almost 1/3rd the number of downvotes as it does upvotes, and it doesn't have many upvotes. As tasteless as an ad gets, right up there with most ill-conceived ads of 2018, certainly one of the most ill-considered.
 
if they all knew are not they all equally complicit, or does DW deserve disproportionate share? lawfacultyphilosophy101 i 'spose.

This prompts me to recall the Simon Doull interview on SEN's The Sporting Capital that Jack Heverin hosted, when Doull said he thought the Australians would not leave a few to hang out to dry to carry the can for all, to mix those two metaphors or euphemisms. He said the thought the Aussies were better. Guess what SD, we ain't, we are human like the rest.

It is very unseemly to hate on DW /grammar. The media piled on, the people piled on, the true unseemly trope or phenomenon of this affair is how we have all been complicit on one player, albeit a bit of a pundenda* the person, but the person and the player should be mutually exclusive no? Otherwise we would not cheer on when said c_nut has scored a ton in the first session of the Boxing Day match and we are downing pint after pint in the Bullring. A modern day d'affaire Dreyfus in an Australian lens where being a sportsman, a 'good guy', and a sorry mate server is the apotheosis of one's aspirational achievement.

*pudenda qualifier as before. i use the plural when talking/writing in the singular. skilts gave me permission.
There's certainly orchestrated scapegoating going on, as if the players are singing from the same sheet. It's kind of hip to hate on Warner though, he's been such a divisive figure in Australian cricket for so long, his personality grating and his actions deplorable, that it was inevitable.
 
It's kind of hip to hate on Warner though, he's been such a divisive figure in Australian cricket for so long, his personality grating and his actions deplorable, that it was inevitable.
you mean, Huey Lewis & The News and other recondite and esoteric references?

irony* is, the irony in this case is, DW was changing his ways when Boof (I love Antipodean nicks) when Boof Lehman gave him the specific brief to be the psychological tormenter, the spearhead, Tugga Waugh's mental disintegration strategy101 manifest... he was not being such a prick. He had changed, or was in the midst of changing... then Boof gives him the brief. Like the BS about Bancroft being headbutted by Jonny Bairstow. That was Lehman and DW trying to get too smart and play mindgames with the poms, they set up Bancroft to wield a fable, hence the pressa where Smith was giggling like a private school primaryschool schoolboy. I am sure Bairstow clumsily collected heads, but more like the Inuit's use their noses to kiss. This was not a violent act. It was not the Liverpool kiss, or Glasgow kiss, it was more Inuit with a nose.

*most people use the term when a far more felicitous term to use would be coincidence, but La pussie noir got this right, eh meds? medusala

edit: Inuit only has a single n, ask Tom Danielson who had t n's but was one sixth, or 15% innuit[sic] so said Jonathan Vaughters yaco55 #schoolboys
#Wilde
 
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you mean, Huey Lewis & The News and other recondite and esoteric references?

irony* is, the irony in this case is, DW was changing his ways when Boof (I love Antepodean nicks) when Boof Lehman gave him the specific brief to be the psychological tormenter, the spearhead, Tugga Waugh's mental disintegration strategy101 manifest... he was not being such a prick. He had changed, or was in the midst of changing... then Boof gives him the brief. Like the BS about Bancroft being headbutted by Jonny Bairstow. That was Lehman and DW trying to get too smart and play mindgames with the poms, they set up Bancroft to wield a fable. I am sure Bairstow clumsily collected heads, but more like the Innuit's use their noses to kiss. This was not a violent act. It was not the Liverpool kiss, or Glasgow kiss, it was more Innuit with a nose.

*most people use the term when a far more felicitous term to use would be coincidence, but La pussie noir got this right, eh meds? medusala
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Good point, don't disagree with the link between Lehmann and his changing behaviour. He was always known as an instigator, but it got a lot worse under Boof. Always thought at the time of his announcement as coach that he was the wrong choice. I really didn't like the Australian team under his stewardship. I felt as though the team sacrificed too much of its identify and morality for the pursuit of success. When you have administrators telling the players they're paid to win not to play, it's impossible to hide the fact that the entire organisation was rotten to the core, driven by greed on so many levels it was flabbergasting.

I'm happy for the players to return if they do their time, earn it back and stop doing ****ing ads.
 

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if they all knew are not they all equally complicit, or does DW deserve disproportionate share? .

Smith deserves plenty for not keeping the campaigner on a very tight leash.

A modern day d'affaire Dreyfus in an Australian lens where being a sportsman, a 'good guy', and a sorry mate server is the apotheosis of one's aspirational achievement.
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DW could do with a bit of time on Devils Island. Can take his wife too.
 
Another Steve Smith interview. Omfg. **** off already?

Edit: no blaming Warner this time
His minders told him he didn’t sound credible first time
 

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you mean, Huey Lewis & The News and other recondite and esoteric references?

irony* is, the irony in this case is, DW was changing his ways when Boof (I love Antipodean nicks) when Boof Lehman gave him the specific brief to be the psychological tormenter, the spearhead, Tugga Waugh's mental disintegration strategy101 manifest... he was not being such a prick. He had changed, or was in the midst of changing... then Boof gives him the brief. Like the BS about Bancroft being headbutted by Jonny Bairstow. That was Lehman and DW trying to get too smart and play mindgames with the poms, they set up Bancroft to wield a fable, hence the pressa where Smith was giggling like a private school primaryschool schoolboy. I am sure Bairstow clumsily collected heads, but more like the Inuit's use their noses to kiss. This was not a violent act. It was not the Liverpool kiss, or Glasgow kiss, it was more Inuit with a nose.

*most people use the term when a far more felicitous term to use would be coincidence, but La pussie noir got this right, eh meds? medusala

edit: Inuit only has a single n, ask Tom Danielson who had t n's but was one sixth, or 15% innuit[sic] so said Jonathan Vaughters yaco55 #schoolboys
#Wilde

Yeah we all get that yawn.............

I think what's happened is this whole episode has opened up the cracks in Australian society which the cricket team is a reflection of.
 
Yeah we all get that yawn.............

I think what's happened is this whole episode has opened up the cracks in Australian society which the cricket team is a reflection of.
nah, just some shallow hand-wringing. introspection without introspection. Really is quite brilliant. wear the badge of the SJW
 
nah, just some shallow hand-wringing. introspection without introspection. Really is quite brilliant. wear the badge of the SJW

Yeah Nah.........The shallow hand wringing was done and dusted 15 yrs a go. No one give a flying **** anymore (Circa Warne to Kryious...if you want your technacalitieis)
 
Yeah Nah.........The shallow hand wringing was done and dusted 15 yrs a go. No one give a flying **** anymore (Circa Warne to Kryious...if you want your technacalitieis)
so it is your position (serious question, serious matter), so your position without me putting words in your mouth, that the fourth Estate was mining this embroglio for all the attention they could garner (praps because they needed the eyeballs as Ad revenues haemmorhaging) and this was a media-driven storm in a teacup just like the BS that 4thestat'ers and Deepstaters are pushing wrt Trump-Russia.

My only paradox there, is ABC are pushing both hard (stronger than any other media outfit) and they are on the government's teet. I 'spose they need the eyeballs to justify the budget and they are competing for eyeballs across all media disciplines
 
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so it is your position (serious question, serious matter), so your position without me putting words in your mouth, that the fourth Estate was mining this embroglio for all the attention they could garner

My only paradox there, is ABC are pushing both hard (stronger than any other media outfit) and they are on the government's teet. I 'spose they need the eyeballs to justify the budget and they are competing for eyeballs across all media disciplines

1)Of course but it was a easy mine to dig.

2)The ABC were sold a long time a go they just didn't know it. Come on there last 3 commentators were poached. And anyone who wants news simply goes to the internet anyway not traditional media.
 

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