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AFL Player 48: Liam McMahon - Re-signed for another year! - 10/9

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The post-game comments proves to me that some people don't appreciate natural goal-kickers over all the extra mayo.

Some players just know where the goals are and where to position themselves inside 50 without the extra fanfare or standout skills. He is kicking goals vs good opponents with our putrid ball movement where we can barely crack 7 goals for the game.

We already have Caddy as the crazy talent and May who will be a huge unit of a tall forward. McMahon is a dangerous 3rd tall that complements the others.
Replaces Langford I think.
Can the forwardline fit Caddy, May, MacMahon, Edwards and a resting ruckman though? Too tall. Someone joins Jones in the VFL.
 

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Replaces Langford I think.
Can the forwardline fit Caddy, May, MacMahon, Edwards and a resting ruckman though? Too tall. Someone joins Jones in the VFL.
Thing is you do not have to fit them all in. If McMahon stays as a rookie and everyone is fit then as you say some are in the VFL.
Possible changes to the sub rule may change things a little.
 
Thing is you do not have to fit them all in. If McMahon stays as a rookie and everyone is fit then as you say some are in the VFL.
Possible changes to the sub rule may change things a little.
I actually wouldn't mind May playing VFL for a bit. Work on leading and body work under the ball, build momentum and return to seniors as a unit. He's got plenty of time. I'd like him to take Wright's spot.
 
Competent footballer, possibly high football IQ, genuinely higher than your average tall, but listening to the commentary I feel the need to point out that he did nothing in the air, couldn't get separation on the lead and kicked crumbing goals.

His performance was almost of no relevance to the role of playing as a key forward. The solution to our small forward problems is not to play pseudo balls who crumb.

I'm not saying necessarily saying delist but I'd like to see him at least make a contest in the air more than once. But I'm also saying that last night wouldn't give me even a moments hesitation chopping for a list spot unless he shows something in the next few games.
 
Replaces Langford I think.
Can the forwardline fit Caddy, May, MacMahon, Edwards and a resting ruckman though? Too tall. Someone joins Jones in the VFL.
You'd have to say Edwards at this stage. I like what McMahon brings to the side a little more. Also we don't know how he will come back. Although that is ambitious given our injury history.
 

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Competent footballer, possibly high football IQ, genuinely higher than your average tall, but listening to the commentary I feel the need to point out that he did nothing in the air, couldn't get separation on the lead and kicked crumbing goals.

His performance was almost of no relevance to the role of playing as a key forward. The solution to our small forward problems is not to play pseudo balls who crumb.

I'm not saying necessarily saying delist but I'd like to see him at least make a contest in the air more than once. But I'm also saying that last night wouldn't give me even a moments hesitation chopping for a list spot unless he shows something in the next few games.
We do still need a competent crumber.
 
Competent footballer, possibly high football IQ, genuinely higher than your average tall, but listening to the commentary I feel the need to point out that he did nothing in the air, couldn't get separation on the lead and kicked crumbing goals.

His performance was almost of no relevance to the role of playing as a key forward. The solution to our small forward problems is not to play pseudo balls who crumb.

I'm not saying necessarily saying delist but I'd like to see him at least make a contest in the air more than once. But I'm also saying that last night wouldn't give me even a moments hesitation chopping for a list spot unless he shows something in the next few games.
It depends on what you're looking for. I'm not looking for a contested marking beast with McMahon. He may be 198cm but he plays much smaller than his size while still being tall enough to stretch a defence. Someone made the Gunston comparison and I agree with it. Also, a crumbing tall is not something to downplay either.

I am happy with May and Caddy's abilities in the air to accommodate for someone with a high football IQ that does the basics well. He's done enough to be retained IMO.
 
Without him we are likely zero goals well into the third quarter and with that at the Cattery things could have got very nasty. Agree with Bruno on the point of liking to see a couple of contested grabs for example but I would definitely keep. Is a bit more than Mitch Brown IMO, kicks half chances and halved a couple of contests where he was out of position which most of our talls stink at.
 
You'd have to say Edwards at this stage. I like what McMahon brings to the side a little more. Also we don't know how he will come back. Although that is ambitious given our injury history.
Edwards’ contract extension was based on four goals in a practice match. Think McMahon has wel passed that. He has real goal sense.
 
i’m less concerned with his contested marking capabilities presently (caddy and may both can pluck them) and moreso that he’s genuinely reliable in front of goal. he’s taking his opportunities when he gets them
 

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The bizarre Jones and Edwards resigning may cost him, he’s got more about him than both, and he’s younger.

Feels like he understands his own game really well and plays with some real clarity on what he wants to do and what his strengths are.
 
Not arguing that but the problem is we have re-signed those two already. In a perfect world jones would get the flick, maybe the play is shop Langford around?
Agree, but it's tge corner we've paibted ourselves into. We really should be keeping Langers and shopping Jones. If Langford requests a trade, we're likely getting a second round pick in a poor draft.
 
i’m less concerned with his contested marking capabilities presently (caddy and may both can pluck them) and moreso that he’s genuinely reliable in front of goal. he’s taking his opportunities when he gets them
Fair point and most players don't have every attribute except some of the legends of the game. Even Dunstall who is in the top couple of players I have seen wasn't really a strong pack mark with the high ball. The only thing I would like to see with McMahon when he is running full tilt with pressure from behind is marking out front. He is an upgrade on so many we have had who lack athleticism but also IQ and skills as he definitely has the latter two.

Also I have seen him with separation on his opponents just not sure whether that was from speed or smarts (losing his opponent like he did with the first goal). In the second half last night he did seem to have a leg issue that he came off with eventually so maybe he slowed a bit then.
 

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AFL Player 48: Liam McMahon - Re-signed for another year! - 10/9

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