Gtowncrow
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- Jul 6, 2021
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Roo was FD when this disaster occured. I think this matter is serious enough to act upon this alone.Is Roo really the problem?
We had issues (see Tippett) before he was around.
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Roo was FD when this disaster occured. I think this matter is serious enough to act upon this alone.Is Roo really the problem?
We had issues (see Tippett) before he was around.
But importantly you miss the point that Roo is an unpaid role. The football directors like Balme are paid employees, not a volunteer role
All the people getting paid handsome salaries got sacked as they were paid to sort this stuff out and failed
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Or they were enthusiastic that Tex is going around again.Well I’m sure Caroline would have confirmed her source but if there is any truth those players need to be put back in their place.
I love Malcolm too but there's two problems with this: 1) Burton was Ricciuto's 'captain's call', a massively underqualified appointment, a disastrous tenure from start to finish and the camp was his idea, and 2) the problem was always more about the club's response to players' complaints about the camp and Roo and everyone else at the club was more than aware of the nitty gritty by that stage. He has consistently downplayed the concerns right up to the present. It's not and never has been about whether the board knew in advance what was planned for the camp.
Good post, I thought it was a poor take by Blighty.
I also think it's irrelevant who gets paid and who doesn't. I don't think if you are a volunteer it reduces good ethics and standards.
Let's also not pretend that the volunteers on the Board are doing anyone a great Community Service. They are in demand positions and they are not exactly cleaning the local retirement home for free.
Lastly, the AFL Board members past and present that I know are mainly in it raise their profile.
In Eddie's case, demands that included his family be flown to every away match.I don’t agree. I think they failed to quell the disgruntled who didn’t want to be mollified.
The problem with the idea that certain players weren’t listened to, is that they almost certainly were heard, they just had demands the club wasn’t prepared to meet.
I think these were small complaints, made by big personalities, underestimated by the key senior leaders.
I think that's 100% true.I don’t agree. I think they failed to quell the disgruntled who didn’t want to be mollified.
The problem with the idea that certain players weren’t listened to, is that they almost certainly were heard, they just had demands the club wasn’t prepared to meet.
I think these were small complaints, made by big personalities, underestimated by the key senior leaders.
Could be a good role for Balme if he wants to come back home to Adelaide in his retirement.Yes, but Balme is a head of football (employee) and not a football director (part time volunteer on board)
His is not the same role as Roo
Balme’s equivalent is Adam Kelly (before then Burton & Noble)
When you put it like that, Fellows needs to be the first one gone from the board. Integrity my arse.I can’t believe people think it wasn’t covered up. It doesn’t have to be the Watergate scandal. Nobody’s saying Rob Chapman was behind the scenes twisting his moustache trying to figure out how to lie to members.
But in the quest for damage control he did lie to members and his board led a club that produced a public narrative that was such a colossal failure the club is still dealing with the fallout four and a half years later.
The camp was nothing you wouldn’t do at a workplace seminar. We have a happy playing group. There are no lingering issues!
These were abject, provable lies told to members from the top down — a nice glob of mayo on top of the incompetent staff who ran the football department into the ground.
I’m just not sure on what planet people believe those board members shouldn’t be accountable for these outcomes.
Were they connected ?The club management (right or wrong) felt that some players were mentally weak and wanted the camp to challenge them. Some players then complained about the what they want through at the camp.
In Eddie's case, demands that included his family be flown to every away match.
I’m not surprised Malcolm thinks this is how boards work as he sat on a board that had the same unaccountable structure as Adelaide’s. Gold Coast’s board doesn’t answer to its members either.
Nobody’s arguing the board should’ve known what flavour of ice cream the players were eating at the camp dessert bar.
Members are incensed because in 2018 the message from the club, from the chairman down to the boot studder, was that there was nothing to see here.
Then they had the infamous “this isn’t about the camp but we’ll take questions about the camp” press conference that admitted the camp failed but persisted with the nothing to see here narrative.
You can go back and look at threads from 2018 to see how mad so many of us were back then. We were mad because the club was in unison on this fraudulent response, from the board downwards, and we KNEW it was bullshit.
Now, as I’ve said before, if there is evidence that some of these board members were as mad as we were, and attempted to get the club to change course on this disgusting sequence of events, I’m more than happy to consider it.
I am almost certain it doesn’t exist, and members know deep down it doesn’t exist, because they know what happened in 2018 was vintage Adelaide Football Club. It was entirely consistent with the board and the club’s pedigree.
When you put it like that, Fellows needs to be the first one gone from the board. Integrity my arse.
There is zero accountability at the highest levels of the club and you're all agitators if you take issue to the way they do things.
The club's error was hearing that and thinking "well, OF COURSE you would feel that way - this is why we DID the camp."
Only 2 ?? ......seems oddIt still baffles me after all this time all this controversy, it boils down to two players who had their personal information mis used.
And yet a key part of the Pavlich/Dunstall review was Governance issues.You do understand the irony with Linda Fellows - Linda being the Assistant Commissioner (Operations Support) SA Police and Board Member Crimestoppers!
Previously held
- Officer in Charge - Ethical & Professional Standards Branch
- Officer in Charge - Drug Investigation Branch
Linda is certainly qualified as Deputy Chairman.
That we know aboutOnly 2 ?? ......seems odd
Is every grand finalist that loses mentally weak or just the crows? That game was lost at selection and in the coaches box. Pyke sat their in a daze doing nothing making no changes. The players then took all the blame. A decent coach would have got the players in the right frame of mind for the game.The club correctly identified that mental weakness was an issue. They just went about remedying that in the worst way possible. There seems to have been absolutely no introspection done by the coaching group either. They put it all on the players.
JFC. James Hird ring a bell????Correct. Name a player in the AFL who had a more destructive influence on their club post footy than Roo? I can think of one.