Autopsy AFL 2020 Second Preliminary Final - Lions v Cats Sat October 17th 7:40pm AEDT/6:40pm AEST (Gabba) Match Highlights in OP

Who will win a d by how much?

  • Lions by a goal or less

    Votes: 10 7.6%
  • Cats by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Lions by 7 - 20

    Votes: 55 42.0%
  • Cats by 7 - 20

    Votes: 38 29.0%
  • Lions by a lot

    Votes: 15 11.5%
  • Cats by a lot

    Votes: 9 6.9%
  • Draw - Lions in extra time

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Draw - Cats in extra time

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .

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Wosh

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2020 TOYOTA AFL PREMIERSHIP
SECOND PRELIMINARY FINAL • BRISBANE V GEELONG
SATURDAY OCTOBER 17TH 7:40PM AEDT/6:40PM AEST (GABBA)


LAST TIME THEY MET ROUND 6
GEELONG 11.7.73
BRISBANE 6.10.46


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PRELIMINARY FINALS TEAMS

LIONS


B: Daniel Rich, D.Gardiner, Harris Andrews

HB: Z.Bailey, R.Lester, G.Birchall

C: H.McCluggage, M.Robinson, Callum Ah Chee

HF: D.Zorko, D.McStay, Cameron Rayner

F: O.McInerney, Eric Hipwood, Charlie Cameron

FOLL: S.Martin, J.Lyons, Lachlan Neale

I/C: J.Berry, L.McCarthy, C.Ellis-Yolmen, B.Starcevich

EMG: K.Coleman, M.Hinge, J.Payne, T.Fullarton

IN: C.Ellis-Yolmen

OUT: K.Coleman (omitted)


CATS

B: J.Henry, H.Taylor, J.Kolodjashnij

HB: L.Henderson, M.Blicavs, T.Stewart

C: M.Duncan, J.Selwood, S.Menegola

HF: L.Dahlhaus, G.Rohan, G.Miers

F: G.Ablett, T.Hawkins, S.Simpson

FOLL: R.Stanley, P.Dangerfield, C.Guthrie

I/C: J.Bews, B.Parfitt, Z.Tuohy, M.O’Connor

EMG: T.Atkins, Z.Guthrie, E.Ratugolea, B.Close

No changes

BRISBANE 6.6.42
GEELONG 11.16.82


 
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And_ROOS

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Massive game between Geelong at their cheat ground the Gabba, and Brisbane at their cheat ground the Gabba.

Hoping Razor "can't bounce the ******* ball" Ray isn't the umpire for this.

Geelong and Brisbane don't tend to do sh*t matches, even when not close they are still entertaining.

Think this match comes down to a few factors. For Geelong, its keeping the high pressure, quick play Vs Collingwood because it gave the Pies defense no opportunities to get numbers back and Geelongs forwardline works best when they get Hawkins, Dangerfield, etc one out.
If Hawkins gets off the chain, and we see an even spread through the midfield Geelong have the players to beat Brisbane like they did earlier in the season.
If Geelong go too slow, as they did towards the end of the season, it lets teams flood and then you get results like the Richmond game where Hawkins was constantly 2 v 1.

For Brisbane, it comes down to getting Cameron in the game early, and their inaccuracy. Richmond could have pinched the QF because Brisbanes accuracy dipped badly in the second half. The last thing you can afford in a pressure Prelim Final is your forwards butchering hard earned shots at goal especially against a team like Geelong who have been a high scoring team all season. Its what killed Brisbane in 2019 and I thought it was going to cost them again V Richmond this year.

I think Geelong will win by 16, but I worry that at some point in the next 12 months Brisbane will click and start hitting the scoreboard at 55%-60%. And if they do that this week with the amount of shots they generate, theres a chance they get a big win.
 

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I dont think the Lions can kick a winning score against that Geelong backline with their forwards. If they are to win they will need to find goals from their mids/wings when they move forward. Cameron and Hipwood will be lucky to get 2 goals between them.

If someone like a Jarrod Berry can float forward and kick 3 and keep them in the game going into the last quarter they have a chance.

Prob 75-25 Geelongs way.
 

Yojimbo

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Sadly for the Brisbane scouts they learnt nothing from the Geelong versus Collingwood match if you could call it a match, but equally Geelong learnt nothing from the game either as there is more contact and intent in a random game of chess. Who brings it on the night and who is just an observer which sadly happens a lot in finals will decide this one.
 

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Should be a good game. More experienced Cats v less experienced Lions. Can't wait to attend this game. Lions by 19+ hopefully
Geelong will have a more experienced team than the Lions next week by a fair margin assuming both teams are unchanged.
Geelong with a 160 games average to Lions 116 games not to mention a lot more finals experience.
Still 116 games experience is a good spread.

Lions have 6 players with over 150 games- Birchall 263, Martin 189, Neale 177, Rich 221, Robinson 209 & Zorko 184

Cats have 11 - Ablett 355, Blicvas 177, Dahlhaus 192, Dangerfield 267, Duncan 221, Guthrie 180, Hawkins 275, Henderson 183, Selwood 308, Taylor 278, Tuohy 203
Other stats to compare


Brisbane LionsAverage Per GameGeelong Cats
183.5Kicks191.0
98.4Handballs121.9
281.9Disposals312.9
76.7Marks85.8
9.7Goals10.6
11.3Behinds8.5
21.0Scoring Shots19.1
51.9Tackles51.8
30.6Hitouts28.6
16.4Frees For14.9
16.3Frees Against17.1
6.2Goal Assists8.1
46.4Inside 50s43.0
119.1Contested Possessions121.0
158.9Uncontested Possessions189.2
196.3Effective Disposals225.6
69.6%Disposal Efficiency %72.1%
41.9Clangers46.1
9.7Contested Marks9.4
10.0Marks Inside 5010.6
31.8Clearances33.6
9.8Centre Clearances11.0
22.1Stoppage Clearances22.6
30.7Rebound 50s29.8
42.7One Percenters42.4
1.6Bounces2.1
1.86Kick to Handball Ratio1.57
46.2%Conversion55.5%
29.06Disposals Per Goal29.52
13.42Disposals Per Scoring Shot16.38
4778.4Metres Gained4649.5
56.6Turnovers53.7
61.2Intercepts55.2
9.8Tackles Inside 508.9
 

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Rich01

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We beat the best team in the competition a week ago, we're currently 10-0 at the gabba this year, we've had the extra weeks rest, and people think geelong will smash us. Oh well.
Yep. This is Brisbane’s best shot at a flag. A weeks rest. Form side. Home ground. Win this one and they play the GF on their home deck.

They can’t give this one up.
 

Rich01

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Agreed. Brisbane and Port have been handed the perfect opportunity to win the flag this year; albiet brisbane is slightly ahead considering where the grand final is played. Both teams would be disappointed with themselves if they don't at least make the grand final this year.
Circumstances have provided a magnificent opportunity for both of them. But we shouldn’t discount the quality of football they have played this year.

It’s definitely a year where both these teams are in the box seat, particularly Brisbane, to grab a flag.
 

youneverknow22

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Circumstances have provided a magnificent opportunity for both of them. But we shouldn’t discount the quality of football they have played this year.

It’s definitely a year where both these teams are in the box seat, particularly Brisbane, to grab a flag.
I would personally be rapt to win a grand final, however, winning it after winning the wooden spoon 4 years ago and only going through 2 finals is a big ask. Even Richmond had to endure a lot of finals loses before they became the team that they are. A lot of things would have to go right for us to get there, but if ever there was a year for it, it would be this year.
 

db26

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What's the recent record between both.To be honest both prelims toss of coin.The lions are young and hungry I think there speed can trouble cats , while cats have a ton of experience.
 

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