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[ghostdog]

I honestly don't mind Darcy going back.

He's a forward-ruck.

 

[eth-dog]

They're in a position to build their forwardline around JUH and to rebuild their backline around Naughton.

They have built their forward line around him. He's a great forward in a very good forward line.

Changing that because he might be a good defender is dumb. The one game he was forced into defence for a half last year Larkey kicked 3 on him in the second half from memory.

He's a forward-ruck.

He's played all three areas of the ground. Mac Andrew played the same role as a junior and is currently playing CHB very well.

 

[boncer34]

So you suggest just letting him rot away in the 2s for the rest of the year and then delist him

Instead of adding flexability to our squad?

Id rather try see if he can offer us something elsewhere where we lack and give us better knowledge on what to do with him end of this year and the rest if the squad

There's a thing called depth.

 

[Keystone agony]

So you think we should move Setterfield, who is in and out of the side, around a bit?

If say if he returned this week and everything was the same

Id like to see him 50/50 wing/onball in the VFL

Then if we somehow lost or went down the resting path id be ok seeing him play wing instead of a Heppell (managed), Hind (Omitted)

Everyone said Heppell wasnt any good on the wing anymore either 2 years ago

If he was to offer something on the wing he stays around. We have a known product of him as an onballer and it aint going to be in the best midfield group for the next 5 years.

Unfortunately for him its Durham and Caldwell that have impressed. Hobbs and Tsatas that have greater upside and showing signs in the VFL in Tsatas case

It just adds greater flexability and better understanding of the entire list for list decisions going forward

If he isnt willing to add/try anything id say hes asking for opportunities elsewhere

Hes relying on atleast an injury to Durham, Parish, Zerrett or Caldwell. Even then we may play an extra tall and roll Stringer through more instead. Even then that only focuses on this year, even then they may go with Shiel instead

Id prefer to be giving Hobbs and Tsatas the opportunity over him very soon, certainly next year

Hed be handy depth to keep but im not sure thats what hed want to be

 

[ghostdog]

They have built their forward line around him. He's a great forward in a very good forward line.

Changing that because he might be a good defender is dumb. The one game he was forced into defence for a half last year Larkey kicked 3 on him in the second half from memory.

He's played all three areas of the ground. Mac Andrew played the same role as a junior and is currently playing CHB very well.

Noooo... not finding out if he has the capacity to fix your defence when you're loaded with other forward options but you're skint for key defensive options, when your season is in danger of slipping away because you persist with the same old s**t, is dumb.

He was played there for a half was he? What a meaningful experiment a half of football must be.

 

[eth-dog]

Noooo... not finding out if he has the capacity to fix your defence when you're loaded with other forward options but you're skint for key defensive options, when your season is in danger of slipping away because you persist with the same old s**t, is dumb.

He was played there for a half was he? What a meaningful experiment a half of football must be.

Look, we clearly disagree on this.

Why move one of the best forwards in the AFL? Why not try literally anybody else? Jedd Busslinger is averaging 18 disposals and 7 marks a game at VFL level.

You don't move a guy you know is a star forward to defence because he might be good. And have you thought that these other two forwards are more effective because they're not attracting the big key defender? Naughton is doing that and still performing well.

 

[nipst@r]

He’s literally been tried in all these other positions you keep talking about.

He was not good. He’s an inside midfielder, and yes he’s getting bypassed by younger players that are less injury prone.

We currently have no injuries and players in form in his role and very little injuries in the midfield group as a whole.

I don't rate setterfield as high as others but have him first drop to come in when injuries/suspension hit. He'll play most weeks.

Luke Parker is currently playing 2s at the swans so having setterfield spend the odd week in the 2s is fine.

Quite a few in line to delist before him. Why so highly on him as a wingman, what attributes best case scenario or comparison are you hoping for?

 

[nipst@r]

Look, we clearly disagree on this.

Why move one of the best forwards in the AFL? Why not try literally anybody else? Jedd Busslinger is averaging 18 disposals and 7 marks a game at VFL level.

You don't move a guy you know is a star forward to defence because he might be good. And have you thought that these other two forwards are more effective because they're not attracting the big key defender? Naughton is doing that and still performing well.

Scott Lucas's would have never been a all aus chb if this was the approach. Naughton could be an amazing swingman.

 

[eth-dog]

Scott Lucas's would have never been a all aus chb if this was the approach. Naughton could be an amazing swingman.

Scott Lucas was never an AA CHB.

 

[doug85]

Scott Lucas was never an AA CHB.

Correct - won a B&F

 

[Keystone agony]

Anyone be concerned with offering Stengle 5 x 7/800 which seems is what it would probably take?

More the year term that is the worry and that its a bit bland and boring for him in Geelong

 

[Snake Charmer]

so is Naughton gonna play CHB or FF for us? Or has he got heck all to do with us at all?

 

[eth-dog]

so is Naughton gonna play CHB or FF for us? Or has he got heck all to do with us at all?

CHF

 

[nipst@r]

Scott Lucas was never an AA CHB.

Oops I stand corrected.

 

[ghostdog]

Look, we clearly disagree on this.

Why move one of the best forwards in the AFL? Why not try literally anybody else? Jedd Busslinger is averaging 18 disposals and 7 marks a game at VFL level.

You don't move a guy you know is a star forward to defence because he might be good. And have you thought that these other two forwards are more effective because they're not attracting the big key defender? Naughton is doing that and still performing well.

Because the current set up is losing, and he might be good. Hell, he might be better, you know, like Langford moving to the forwardline. That's a possibility, isn't it.

They should try Busslinger, sure, lest he decides to go home. But you know very well he hasn't the build to defend against bigger key forwards. Sure though, alongside Naughton as a defensive duo, why not? They need to try something because for all of Naughton's impact as a forward, it's undone at the other end.

I agree though, that we will be in disagreement.

 

[ghostdog]

Scott Lucas's would have never been a all aus chb if this was the approach. Naughton could be an amazing swingman.

Yep.

What's up Chooker?

 

[Old Campaigner]

Playing Naughton in defense seems pretty dumb. Just draft a defender or wait for the ones already on the list to get good.

 

[Rick Ross]

Team forward

You mean the top 10 key forward in the game Aaron Naughton, yeah?

Team defender

Unpopular opinion but there is this bloke called Aaron Naughton who could be one of the best defenders in the game who sounds like he could fit the bill your asking for

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Good thing it’s a cracker.

 

[Rick Ross]

I agree
However they also see Ben McKay
I think he would flourish under scott

Is McKay’s secret role to back channel and recruit disillusioned North players?

 

[Yoda_]

Playing Naughton in defense seems pretty dumb. Just draft a defender or wait for the ones already on the list to get good.

Unfortunately the Dogs list is in the here and now so probably silly to wait 3 years for Busslinger to come good

 

[eth-dog]

Team forward


Team defender


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Good thing it’s a cracker.

Ew. Why?

 

[Keystone agony]

Delist Group for me atm would be:

Tex Wanganeen
K.Baldwin
J.Hunter
Weideman
Menzie (If we got Stengle or Ainsworth)

May be worth keeping one of those talls, as it may be one too many. Probably need to keep 1 of them really or find another

Shiel, Setterfield, Hind, Kelly, Goldstein and Heppell - 1 Year

Some Moneyball picks like last year (All FAs)
Tim Membrey

28

Tim Membrey

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.1

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

G

0.6

3star

- An upgrade on all of Baldwin,Hunter and Weideman. But probably a silly move for him
Harry Morrison

1

Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

- If we Lose a Shiel or Setterfield on the cheap is an option

But maybe best to save the pennies for years to come 2025;
LDU
Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

25

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

Ed Richards

20

Ed Richards

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.4

4star

MG

201.4

3star

D

11.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.3

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

198.3

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

232.4

4star

Bontempelli
Maynard

 

[Yoda_]

Delist Group for me atm would be:

Tex Wanganeen
K.Baldwin
J.Hunter
Weideman
Menzie (If we got Stengle or Ainsworth)

May be worth keeping one of those talls, as it may be one too many. Probably need to keep 1 of them really or find another

Shiel, Setterfield, Hind, Kelly, Goldstein and Heppell - 1 Year

im on a similar thought process. Would think we go one small fwd and one KPF if we go with these delistings. Curious what we do in the midseason draft as that may offset what we need at years end

 

[jdstorm]

Because it's taking away their best forward who they've coincidentally built their forward line around.

It would be like us moving Langford to defence.

Or would it be like us finally moving Langford forward after playing him Mid and Def for 8 years

 

[ant555]

So you suggest just letting him rot away in the 2s for the rest of the year and then delist him

Instead of adding flexability to our squad?

Id rather try see if he can offer us something elsewhere where we lack and give us better knowledge on what to do with him end of this year and the rest if the squad

How many times can you run into the same brick wall ?
There is flexibility and there is barking up the wrong tree and repeating the same mistakes over and over. Not like he is just 3 years in the system. He has been tried in other spots. Over 60% of his senior footy has been in other spots. The Blues moved him on as he was a surplus inside midfielder with a limited outside game and average foot skills.