No. That's the narrative you're choosing to run with devoid of any common sense or reason.
The context was about powerful men choosing to treat women however they choose. Which is when you vomited up an opinion about women being pieces of meat.So keep running with the rape and assault angle to garner faux outrage. Again, cliche. Get belted in thread after thread so you've gone full Carlos Maza. A few more comments and I'll be a fascist and a nazi
Cool. So again nothing to do with what I said, just faux outrage. If anyone didn't think you were a troll before hand it's clear as day now.
His evidence of us all secretly wanting an Islamic state was compelling.Actually I think it is you who is getting belted in this thread.
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Going full predator mode in a strip club and staring like a creep is a ticket to be turfed out.
They prefer patrons who avert their gaze?! Must depend on the club.
Not too hard at all. I'd just prefer to save my time for those willing to engage for discussion purposes, not to score points and try to swing the narrative in there favour. It's dishonest and how you create echo chambers. No one gives a s**t about internet points but a few dummies in here.
Trump said they let him. If they didn't let him it would be assault. That's where the line is. I hope you understand that now. If they complained or objected then there is an issue. There's also an issue of people coming out almost 20's down the track to complain that some one looked at you up and down just so you can earn money off their popularity.Mate, you're the one that decided to ride in and pretend there was nothing wrong with Trump's wandering hands by painting all his accusers as groupies (lol), then doubled down on there being no probs with him wandering backstage at a beauty pageant for a look at some T n A.
Talk about point scoring. You're so invested in a politician in a different country that you're literally unable to concede even the most banal, undisputed negative points about him. Its incredible
"Not too hard at all", yet still absolutely incapable of addressing it
Like a lot of people have said regarding the Weinstein thing - there were plenty that were happy to not say something at the time because it furthered their career. But when they are big enough they then call it out. Forgetting all those that suffered because they didn't speak up originally. It's never as simple as some say and it's hard to assess people's motives at the time. We see it often where someone just regretted it and then chose to say they were assaulted/raped after the fact or they just lied for other reasons (money/5 mins of fame etc.). That's a slap in the face to those that have actually been raped or assaulted because people question if it's true or not. I don't subscribe to the theory that the accuser is always 100% right so you whining about "you don't get this blah blah blah" is stupid because there are so many variables at play - like the "power dynamics" situation.
. Which is far different to someone saying no and person X not listening and was too scared to speak up about it for 15 years because of the emotional pain of it all. 2 vastly different scenarios with a lot to access. You acting like it's black and white is plain stupidity.
Like a lot of people have said regarding the Weinstein thing - there were plenty that were happy to not say something at the time because it furthered their career. But when they are big enough they then call it out. Forgetting all those that suffered because they didn't speak up originally. It's never as simple as some say and it's hard to assess people's motives at the time. We see it often where someone just regretted it and then chose to say they were assaulted/raped after the fact or they just lied for other reasons (money/5 mins of fame etc.). That's a slap in the face to those that have actually been raped or assaulted because people question if it's true or not. I don't subscribe to the theory that the accuser is always 100% right so you whining about "you don't get this blah blah blah" is stupid because there are so many variables at play - like the "power dynamics" situation.
How do you access someone saying "I didn't say no when person X made a move on me and it led to sex...I didn't say anything at the time or for 15 years later...but now I can say I didn't say no because person X was rich and powerful"...
Regarding your question - It depends. If it was strictly a no go zone and you weren't supposed to walk in then it's not okay. Considering it's a beauty pageant I assume people come in and tick them off before they walk out etc. and that's seen as standard like they do for modelling shows. So who knows. I don't know the situation. I'm not brain dead enough to take the word of a pageant contestant because it's all the rage to heap **** on Trump and there are financial incentives behind doing so.
See the difference. I'm not condemning until I know the entire situation, whereas you and others are whining just because I'm not as outraged like the rest of you. Thank Christ there are still people like me using logic and common sense and not just being outraged.
An alpha trying to explain their behaviour to a beta is like a human trying to teach calculus to a frog. Left wing men generally have such low testosterone levels that we may as well be communicating with a Martian. There will never be a consensus reached on issues like Trump due to this imbalance!Cheers, much more considered response than I was expecting
I don't subscribe to the accuser being right 100% either - but this isn't a one-off like Kavanaugh for example, there is a laundry list of women complaining about behaviour that matches up exactly with Trump's own admission of how he rolls. Not all those women are seeking cash or their 5 mins, neither were all accusations only made when he entered politics. Not that the last part matters much - when the bloke who put you in that position X years ago becomes president of the united ****ing states, pretty natural reaction to be nonplussed by that and tell your story whereas you may not have seen much point before.
As far as I know the quotes which prompted this discussion don't alledge sex, just actions like touching and kissing that are completely in-line with Trump's own words. While you're right in that these things are usually pretty grey I think in this instance, and for all the factors I've mentioned, its as black and white a case as you're ever likely to see. Just seems like a strange hill to die on in terms of defending the guy.
I would argue that you're not using much common sense and logic re: the dressing room question. At least you finally said its not okay, albeit with a caveat - surely common sense would tell you that change rooms are very much a no-go zone if you're not there for a work purpose (ticking off or whatever), which Trump was obviously not.
Sorry boss, warning duly noted. I got over excited. Like a Jack Russell. I'll tone it down.
Did you just cut and paste this s**t off some deadshit website without even reading it first? Incoherent babble cut and paste from another website just makes you look like a clueless goose!
Sorry boss, warning duly noted. I got over excited. Like a Jack Russell. I'll tone it down.
Don't vilify Jack Russells. I'm sure they know how to behave, better than Trumpty Dumpty.
