More than likely.Good point. And given you dont have a 1st this year, it's something you would target for a trade.
He's still a chance to stay
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More than likely.Good point. And given you dont have a 1st this year, it's something you would target for a trade.
Future picks are useless to the Dogs.
We have a few father sons next year
Do you have any idea how many pages of the jeremy Cameron trade thread were taken up with GWS fans telling us trading the picks was our problem?You do realise the Bulldogs could then on trade the future pick right? Either this year or next.
Talk of Smith being worth more than our future first and the Hawks second rounder is lunacy.
Even the most optimistic Collingwood supporter wouldn’t put our future first any higher than 13-15, given our impending retirements and age demographics.
So 2025 Pick 13-15 plus 2024 Pick 24 (currently) for Bailey Smith and his issues. Whilst not massively relevant, points value wise, it’s the equivalent of Pick 5 (at worst).
IMO that’s way over and I hope we don’t pay it and just focus on the draft and free agency. Particularly given our shiddy history with trading future firsts.
Do you have any idea how many pages of the jeremy Cameron trade thread were taken up with GWS fans telling us trading the picks was our problem?
That's probably the sort of thinking that will get a deal over the line.Smith warrants a current top 10 pick. If pies want to use a future first they'll have to provide more because the risk involved. They also want Lobb so they'll need a pick for him too. I seriously don't see how Pies can get picks for both if they nominate Pies. Maybe they'll look at pushing out some players to look for trades.
Right now they have 24, 42, 49 this season. Picks that would be valuable to a team that'll have academy or F/S. Lions have 6 if they stay in that range Pies could go something like.
Pies give 24, 42, 49, Future 2nd, Get Smith, Lobb,
Dogs give Lobb, Smith, 47, Get 6, Future 2nd,
Lions give 6, Get, 24, 42, 47, 49,
That's where the talk above of splitting it for Suns picks come in.Reckon he is Hawks bound but will need some massaging as Dogs will want a first rounder this year for him and the Hawks won't want to give up a top 6 pick for him.
Could the Hawks flip 2-6 into a later first rounder and a future first rounder?
So for example they could try and turn their current 4 into Freos 10 and a future first? Then move Smith for 10 and hold a strong hand next year?
Why are you talking things coming in, on a thread about a player going out?Future picks are useless to the Dogs.
We have a few father sons next year
Smith warrants a current top 10 pick.
Pies have the Hawks second rounder.
That would be unusualWhich according to reports, we plan on using at the draft to find some young talls.
That would be unusual
Collingwood’s shrewd talent ID at trade time and at the back ends of drafts will prevent the club from “bottoming out”. The lack of young top 10 picks is a cherry-picked stat that bears no actual meaning. The club is in good hands, the list is being turned over already this year and the Pies will continue to be thereabouts most years, consistent with just about all of time.Respectfully disagree about the Pies.
Oldest list in the comp with only 1 top 10 pick under 28 years old on the list(Nick D). There is no gun key forward available for them as a FA.
With the amount of players they need to replace over the next 1-2 years they are a very big chance of dropping off the cliff right when Tassie start sucking up all the top end picks. Horrible timing.
Cats have at least kept rolling over players in bringing in young talent(Bruhn, Henry, Clarke, O’Sullivan).
So Smith just 75% staying thenLibba not retiring
Collingwood’s shrewd talent ID at trade time and at the back ends of drafts will prevent the club from “bottoming out”. The lack of young top 10 picks is a cherry-picked stat that bears no actual meaning. The club is in good hands, the list is being turned over already this year and the Pies will continue to be thereabouts most years, consistent with just about all of time.
We know a Collingwood downfall is all you want to see. Unfortunately, it’s not looking likely
Smith gone more than likelySo Smith just 75% staying then
No, I just see the oldest list in the comp with not enough young talent to stop the drop.We know a Collingwood downfall is all you want to see. Unfortunately, it’s not looking likely
Ok thenYeah that's right... the all knowing Dawks supporter