News Bellchambers in for Monfries

[quotemokc]

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=8061

I find this a bit strange, because most people were certain Davey would come in.

Maybe for a taller forward presence in the absence of Gumbleton?

 

[Childish Gambino]

I thought we were one forward short last week. Maybe this will be one of Ryder or Hille will play as that permanent forward.

 

[DVD Player]

Does this mean Ryder permo forward?

 

[Old man fletch]

a bit unexpected. Considering how handy NLM's run was when he was subbed on (who is listed to play as well), and how an extra big man (whether he's a sub or not) is going to limit our options to rotate players through the midfield. Might be because they wanted another lead up player to replace monfries (so leave hille/ryder in the forward position and belly playing only ruck), and/or another big body to take some defensive pressure of hurley

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Has to be a late change, surely.

 

[Childish Gambino]

You heard any whispers about Hille missing Ben?

 

[Tippaz]

... and considering Sydney are only playing the 1 ruckman i'm confused by this selection

 

[anf06]

You heard any whispers about Hille missing Ben?

I have also heard the same rumours. It is April 1st however. Stay cautious.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

You heard any whispers about Hille missing Ben?

Only what chris2256 posted in the "Changes" thread and what's coming out of BBlitz.

 

[GuzzLG]

Maybe they think Hille is as good as a permanent midfielder. Last week his got 27 touches (11 contested) and 11 inside 50s (most in the league). Numbers any midfielder in the comp would be pleased with. In fact I hardly remember him resting up forward except for a few minutes here and there, but no more than a Watson or a Zaharakis did.

 

[Shane Hird]

I reckon they know Bellchambers is in some sort of good form and they want to see how we play with 3 tall giants roaming around taking marks and dishing off hand-passes to running Bomber mids.

I like it....

 

[Lance Uppercut]

fully expect Hille to miss

 

[yaco55]

Team Balance = surprising
Form = justified.

Think they have to get games into Belly - Will be a trade target at the end of the year.

 

[Mad Bomber Sean]

Not sure about this one, but happy to back the coaching team in.

Part of me thinks its a clever bluff by Hird with either Davey or Reimers to come in as a late change.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Reckon it's a good move by the club too.

Considering the circumstances,

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tom-bellchambers-reportedly-in-sheedy's-sight-20110331-1cnlo.html

Dual-position ruckman are the latest "must have" following the new sub rule, and Sheedy wants in, citing Tom Bellchambers from Essendon as his next target.

It doesn't seem to be all great news for the Bombers following their Round 1 form after demolishing the Western Bulldogs by 55 points, a performance most would have attributed to the dual-positioning of Essendon's two most prominent ruckman, Patrick Ryder and David Hille. The attention to Essendon's ruck stocks has only whet the appetite of it's former coach and now coach of the Greater Western Sydney team, Kevin Sheedy.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tom-bellchambers-reportedly-in-sheedy's-sight-20110331-1cnlo.html

Need to give him as many games as we can!

Otherwise, how would we compete with game time opportunities + money?

We couldn't, and there's no way the AFL will do anything to help us.

This your time to shine Tom!

 

[Summer Nights]

Not sure about this one, but happy to back the coaching team in.

Part of me thinks its a clever bluff by Hird with either Davey or Reimers to come in as a late change.

I think Hirdy just wants to give a guy who deserves a game a run. If belly doesn't get used, well lose him year's end, no doubt.

 

[quotemokc]

I don't think we have much to gain if we traded Bellchambers, Hille ain't gonna be around forever and god forbid if he gets injured again.

I think every team needs at least 3 ruckman in their total squad, if we traded Bellchambers that would be a couple years of sticking with him down the drain only for us to get another ruckman up to scratch.

 

[AndyLesPaul]

No one mentioned the t-word.
If Bellchambers is not at our club next year, it's obviously not going to be of the Bombers' doing, he would be an essential part of our long-term future, and it's a shame that it's likely he won't be here next year.

Didn't Sheeds say he wouldn't touch our players? Gooooood.

 

[loopy_cam]

I think we have decided to use the sub rule as an injury cover rather than trying to gain some kind of tactical advantage. We chose NLM last week because of his versatility. If he wasn't used last week it really wouldn't have made too much of a difference.
Perhaps we think that if we get an injury Ryder can just block the gap. He can play key forward, he can play key back and if we need a midfielder he can take Myers spot and we can throw Myers into the middle. If this is the case then we really have nothing to lose by playing Bellchambers as the sub as all positions are covered. If his form warrants it, he should play, even if only for a quarter.

 

[longdaveyjetta]

Reckon it's a good move by the club too.

Considering the circumstances,

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tom-bellchambers-reportedly-in-sheedy's-sight-20110331-1cnlo.htmlhttp://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tom-bellchambers-reportedly-in-sheedy's-sight-20110331-1cnlo.html

Need to give him as many games as we can!

Otherwise, how would we compete with game time opportunities + money?

We couldn't, and there's no way the AFL will do anything to help us.

This your time to shine Tom!

I clicked on this link but it took me to a story about Ablett and Judd, where can I read the full article please?

 

[DarthAnnihl8or]

A few things have crossed my mind for possible reasons for this:

1. Bellchambers is injured and will be a late withdrawal but Hird wanted to let him know he's deserving of a spot (VERY Unlikely, probably impossible)

2. All three are going to work a 3 way rotation to try and run Mumford off his legs. (VERY unlikely)

3. Hirdy has Ryder set to run with Adam Goodes. (WOuld be interested to see how he goes.

4. The least likely...it's an April Fool's Day Joke.

BUT the most likely as a result of a rumor I have heard.

5. David Hille is going to miss with soreness, like Monfries.

 

[ant555]

We can not expect Hurley to take the same work load week in and week out.

Ryder can lead up, take marks and run down players as good as Monfries can.

Ryder and Hurley are a good tall forward team.

Ryder does not have to ruck.

Ryder, Hurley and Hille would be dangerous while Bellchambers is rucking.

In case anyone has missed it kicking long to tall marking targets is going to be equally important as the forward press.

Get it into your head that when you mention Ryder you do not automatically have to think ruck.

As far as the Hille whispers go he was ok yesterday but i have had not contact with anyone today about team stuff so i don't know 100%.

Try expanding your thinking....

 

[Jade]

I love the idea of these three on the ground at once.

Sydney lack height on the defensive half. You can rotate these three and destroy Mumford and have all three down forward to exploit the lack of height.

Of course you have to back yourself to win the contested ball.

I'll back us.

 

[morebeer]

We can not expect Hurley to take the same work load week in and week out.

Ryder can lead up, take marks and run down players as good as Monfries can.

Ryder and Hurley are a good tall forward team.

Ryder does not have to ruck.

Ryder, Hurley and Hille would be dangerous while Bellchambers is rucking.

In case anyone has missed it kicking long to tall marking targets is going to be equally important as the forward press.

Get it into your head that when you mention Ryder you do not automatically have to think ruck.

As far as the Hille whispers go he was ok yesterday but i have had not contact with anyone today about team stuff so i don't know 100%.

Try expanding your thinking....

Yep and to add to that, Belly has looked fantastic in the preseason predominantly in the ruck but also shown signs up forward.

In saying that though, my preference would be to lean towards the more mobile team.

What you say does make sense but it is still a fair risk and not unrealistic for us mug punters to express some doubt about team balance.

 

[LeeARM]

I'm happy with this.
All 3 ruckman are versatile players (at least Bellchambers is starting to be).
Bellchambers needs the game time and he's earned it after his nab cup performances.
There is the issue of potentially going too tall in our lineup but if it was Gumbleton coming in most of us would probably be fine with it.