Rumour Bevo to stand down or be sacked soon

[SuperMal]

Saints have a +85 free kick differential this season
Swans have a +1 free kick differential this season

C’maan Mike….we can’t have facts interrupting these wonderful delusions!

 

[_Mike_]

C’maan Mike….we can’t have facts interrupting these wonderful delusions!

you know the cliche, dont let the facts get in the way of a good story

 

[Tandy]

If giants win is he gone?

 

[SuperMal]

If giants win is he gone?

Be silly to keep him…he’s nothing ‘speshul’….

 

[Elmer_Judd]

If giants win is he gone?

Dogs cannot afford to pay him out with the soft cap tax apparently.

 

[Tandy]

He's definitely not going to get another senior coaching gig at AFL level. Seems a bit too unstable.

 

[WillHayward]

Dogs cannot afford to pay him out with the soft cap tax apparently.

Isn't he on a 6 month payout clause?

Same deal as Dew was on.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

Isn't he on a 6 month payout clause?

Same deal as Dew was on.

Consensus on the doges board is that it’s not part of his contract

 

[Rod Stroker]

Consensus on the doges board is that it’s not part of his contract

I don't see how it couldn't be. All clubs on the AFL drip - of which the Dogs are one - have to have the 6 month pay out clause.
The AFL aren't going to be happy propping up those clubs, when they make poor business decisions like blowing money on 2 year payouts for coaches that the club leadership signed off on.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

I don't see how it couldn't be. All clubs on the AFL drip - of which the Dogs are one - have to have the 6 month pay out clause.
The AFL aren't going to be happy propping up those clubs, when they make poor business decisions like blowing money on 2 year payouts for coaches that the club leadership signed off on.

It depends on where the AFL draws the line on what constitutes an ‘assisted club’. There’s GC and GWS getting 25 mil, Lions, North and St. Kilda recieving 18-19 mil and the Dees, Dogs, Port and Sydney getting 16 mil. Then the rest 12 million and below.

You’re probably right, maybe a bit of wishful thinking from the Dogs fans thinking they’re not financially grouped with the clubs they actually are. Could work out well for them in this case.

 

[Tandy]

It depends on where the AFL draws the line on what constitutes an ‘assisted club’. There’s GC and GWS getting 25 mil, Lions, North and St. Kilda recieving 18-19 mil and the Dees, Dogs, Port and Sydney getting 16 mil. Then the rest 12 million and below.

You’re probably right, maybe a bit of wishful thinking from the Dogs fans thinking they’re not financially grouped with the clubs they actually are. Could work out well for them in this case.

Crazy that Melbourne gets that much

 

[_Mike_]

Consensus on the doges board is that it’s not part of his contract

Doesnt have to be explicit in the contract, any person in such a role is supported by common law case on notice periods. Same for CEOs & similar

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

Doesnt have to be explicit in the contract, any person in such a role is supported by common law case on notice periods. Same for CEOs & similar

Ta, you could be off the hook then if that’s the move the club decides to make.

 

[_Mike_]

Ta, you could be off the hook then if that’s the move the club decides to make.

not quite, it's the opposite. The Fair Work Act implies minimum notice periods that cannot be shortened, but Rankin v Marine Power Group established case law that persons holding jobs requiring specialised skills/attributes (and on high wages accordingly) are entitled to notice periods beyond the minimum.

He'd still be getting a payout notice period of somewhere around 6 months.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

not quite, it's the opposite. The Fair Work Act implies minimum notice periods that cannot be shortened, but case law such as Rankin v Marine Power Group established case law that persons holding jobs requiring specialised skills/attributes (and on high wages accordingly) are entitled to notice periods beyond the minimum.

He'd still be getting a payout notice period of somewhere around 6 months.

Oh I should’ve phrased it better, I know you won’t be totally off the hook with a 4 week notice period.

 

[owen87]

I don't see how it couldn't be. All clubs on the AFL drip - of which the Dogs are one - have to have the 6 month pay out clause.
The AFL aren't going to be happy propping up those clubs, when they make poor business decisions like blowing money on 2 year payouts for coaches that the club leadership signed off on.

It depends on where the AFL draws the line on what constitutes an ‘assisted club’. There’s GC and GWS getting 25 mil, Lions, North and St. Kilda recieving 18-19 mil and the Dees, Dogs, Port and Sydney getting 16 mil. Then the rest 12 million and below.

You’re probably right, maybe a bit of wishful thinking from the Dogs fans thinking they’re not financially grouped with the clubs they actually are. Could work out well for them in this case.

It was brought in during COVID only for clubs that accepted AFL financial assistance, and wasn't (can't) be backdated in to existing contracts. It's not linked to any other financial payments AFAIK.

So if the Dogs received AFL assistance there's no guarantee the clause exists given Bevo was already there prior and it may not have had to be added to any extensions.

 

[CrazyJoeFevola]

It was brought in during COVID only for clubs that accepted AFL financial assistance, and wasn't (can't) be backdated in to existing contracts. It's not linked to any other financial payments AFAIK.

So if the Dogs received AFL assistance there's no guarantee the clause exists given Bevo was already there prior and it may not have had to be added to any extensions.

Ok, thanks. A lot of articles I’ve had a look at seem to be stating that it is linked to the usual AFL distributions, which is evidently a load of rubbish.

 

[bresker]

Word is Dogs have offered him a $1 million to go , but he’s negotiating for more.

I believe he’s gone , that’s just a personal opinion . I can’t see how a coach can stay when reliable sources say the captain has told him he’s lost the playing group and the board are offering him a severance deal.

Plus we missed finals, you’d think he’d have a performance related clause in the contract .

The clock is ticking

 

[owen87]

Ok, thanks. A lot of articles I’ve had a look at seem to be stating that it is linked to the usual AFL distributions, which is evidently a load of rubbish.

It's difficult to find any real details on it, I imagine some clubs might try to put them in to contracts regardless of whether they had support or not, but I also imagine some more experienced coaches might refuse to sign them. e.g. Brad Scott at Essendon I'd be pretty confident didn't sign a contract with a 6 month payout clause.

 

[WillHayward]

not quite, it's the opposite. The Fair Work Act implies minimum notice periods that cannot be shortened, but Rankin v Marine Power Group established case law that persons holding jobs requiring specialised skills/attributes (and on high wages accordingly) are entitled to notice periods beyond the minimum.

He'd still be getting a payout notice period of somewhere around 6 months.

It's absolutely definitely 6 months in the bulldogs case

 

[WillHayward]

Doesnt have to be explicit in the contract, any person in such a role is supported by common law case on notice periods. Same for CEOs & similar

It's 6 months in his contract.

It would be extremely unlikely a court would give him more than that.

It is interesting that he's digging in though.

Could have gone out in a rose petal shower and a brass band as an absolute god.

Looks like now he's digging in and will need to be blasted out with a bunker bomb.

 

[_Mike_]

It's 6 months in his contract.

It would be extremely unlikely a court would give him more than that.

It is interesting that he's digging in though.

Could have gone out in a rose petal shower and a brass band as an absolute god.

Looks like now he's digging in and will need to be blasted out with a bunker bomb.

Pretty much the case, he seems to have a hall pass for the one lucky flag. The Dogs haven’t finished top 4 under Bev but the problems go beyond just Bevo alone. Covid cuts to staff had them appoint Spangher as forwards coach (wtf) , Webb as midfield coach losing key notable assistants in the process.

The president went public last year with a statement along the lines of anything less than a top 4 finish is a fail. Won’t fall on his sword though and neither will Bevo. It will be status quo next year without addressing the glaring issues with list deficiencies, coaching staff and non existing game plans. Club is on the verge of stagnating and disappearing into oblivion.

 

[_Mike_]

It's absolutely definitely 6 months in the bulldogs case

point was, doesn’t have to be written explicitly and push come shove he can lodge a case with Fair Work. long story short, they pay him out 6 months, but I doubt now that they will move him on. He’ll be coaching next year

 

[WillHayward]

point was, doesn’t have to be written explicitly and push come shove he can lodge a case with Fair Work. long story short, they pay him out 6 months, but I doubt now that they will move him on. He’ll be coaching next year

Death or glory

 

[_Mike_]

Death or glory

rumours circling that he knows his time is up but wants a full 2 year payout.