Free Agency Brad Crouch [joins St Kilda as a RFA for pick 23]

[calder_daddy]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Well if the deal is 600k surely the compo is pick 39 odd like Ellis

Or the mighty afl just making sh*t up as usual

People still don't get it.

Band 1 = Pick immediately after your first. Could be 2, could be 19 or more.
Band 2= Pick at the end of the first round = 20+
Band 3 = pick immediately after your second could be anything from 20-38+.

So If Ellis had hit band 2 , he would have been almost the same compensation as band 1.
For the Crows Band 3 is no different to band 2.

You should google some shit and read some shit.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I reckon the Crows shot themselves in the foot by threatening to match.

The Saints may have been willing to offer say $750k x 5 if it was as a FA. But, with the Crows threatening to match then the Saints probably thought "well if we have to trade for him (ie if it doesn't hit band 1) then we are only willing to pay $600pa."

In other words, at $600k, I suspect the Saints are happy to trade

At $600K I expect we will keep our best midfielder on less than $650k pa he is currently on & far less than the $750k pa we offered him at the beginning of the year.

 

[PrinceCharles]

Except that before he tested the market it was rumoured that they had $900k on his head. If anything, he should be more appreciative of the offer we originally had on the table. I bet it's nit looking as low bally now.

Hahaha you think the number lodged on the paperwork was a surprise to him?

 

[PrinceCharles]

Well if the deal is 600k surely the compo is pick 39 odd like Ellis

Or the mighty afl just making sh*t up as usual

Oh dear...

 

[Brutalitops]

It might well be that St Kilda and the crows had agreed a salary dump player for the Saints to have raised their offer - and if that offer was still too low for band 1, they ran the risk of paying brad extra and the crows walking away from taking a player or 2 to help relieve some salary cap. Brad might not have had much choice but to sign on at a lower rate considering he had no other contract offer to date

No. This doesnt make sense either. They cant use a salary dump and use that space before that trade happens. The Free Agency offer is measured against their salary cap before the AFL approve the offer.

Theres no "But trust us Gil, we're gonna have the space soon". That would be negligent. And litigious.

 

[Adz2332]

At $600K I expect we will keep our best midfielder on less than $650k pa he is currently on & far less than the $750k pa we offered him at the beginning of the year.

You'll have to ask Brad now if he wants to stay.
Adelaide might all of a sudden be ok with signing him up for 5 years. Doesnt mean Brad wants to stay

 

[SaintsSeptember]

But on less money than he is on now or the $750k pa we offered prior to COVID.

Happy to keep Brouch, but he should get a new manager.

Pretty strange if true. Why would he accept a lower offer than that, unless he really wanted out?

 

[Great8]

Where is every clown that posted 750-800k per year?

The best part of this fiasco is all the media vultures who have got it so damn wrong AGAIN

 

[Carl]

accepts compo pick
Then saints 15 and next years 3rd
For Adelaide's compo and 20

Why would Adelaide do that? Everyone would prefer Adelaide's picks.

 

[StCicatriz]

Except that before he tested the market it was rumoured that they had $900k on his head. If anything, he should be more appreciative of the offer we originally had on the table. I bet it's nit looking as low bally now.

You don't think Adelaide were informed on what the market dictated prior to agreeing to st kildas terms?

 

[Northernsoul74]

But on less money than he is on now or the $750k pa we offered prior to COVID.

Happy to keep Brouch, but he should get a new manager.

The pre COVID deal the Crows pulled you mean?

 

[Great8]

This can’t be a real trade thread without a PSD or ND threat

 

[StCicatriz]

If he accepts he stays if he doesn't he gets traded or goes into a draft if that fails. It's not a state secret or particularly complicated.

So let's talk about the trade. Saints first rounder is off the table. So then what?

 

[calder_daddy]

marty36 lucky you bitched out on the bet that you wouldn’t get pick 2

Your prize, you get to keep your BF account, with extra salt on top

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

That all seems completely consistent. Whats your issue with it?

How are Lycett and Ellis different bands for the exact same contract both after winning premierships

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Buzzasto DaSilva]

Essendon are paying 450K over 4 years which isn't close to St Kilda's reported 600K offer to Crouch. St Kilda's offer to Caldwell was similar to ours.
Caldwell reportedly chose Essendon over St Kilda for more opportunities after Crouch nominated St Kilda.

It's actually very close.

Comparing Caldwell to Crouch is just stupid.

 

[marty36]

marty36 lucky you bitched out on the bet that you wouldn’t get pick 2

Your prize, you get to keep your BF account, with extra salt on top [emoji8]

No one would take it dippy

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[Brutalitops]

Pretty strange if true. Why would he accept a lower offer than that, unless he really wanted out?

Because thats the rule. Theres no more negotiating on that contract. His options are:

1. Get traded.
2. Accept the matched offer
3. Draft

No other options available. The rules are quite clear. For me, Im hoping he chooses draft. He can join Cameron and Saad. They may even televise the PSD this year. And if Dodoro is being Dodoro then Caldwell can come along for the ride. Lets get the party started!

 

[SaintsSeptember]

How are Lycett and Ellis different bands for the exact same contract both after winning premierships

Its based upon the salaries of the top earning afl players that year.

 

[Roby]

Hey Adelaide...

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Because thats the rule. Theres no more negotiating on that contract. His options are:

1. Get traded.
2. Accept the matched offer
3. Draft

No other options available. The rules are quite clear. For me, Im hoping he chooses draft. He can join Cameron and Saad. They may even televise the PSD this year. And if Dodoro is being Dodoro then Caldwell can come along for the ride. Lets get the party started!

True but his original club can take him under free agent if he goes back and says, guys ...sorry, about that offer. Ie simply sign him up again.

Any uncontracted player meeting the criteria is a free agent. All they need to do is sign a contract and they are no longer a free agent.

 

[Tarka_Dal]

Crows should not match the Saints offer and be happy with pick 23. If Crouch was on the open market I couldn't see any club offering more than that in a trade.

 

[StCicatriz]

Because thats the rule. Theres no more negotiating on that contract. His options are:

1. Get traded.
2. Accept the matched offer
3. Draft

No other options available. The rules are quite clear. For me, Im hoping he chooses draft. He can join Cameron and Saad. They may even televise the PSD this year. And if Dodoro is being Dodoro then Caldwell can come along for the ride. Lets get the party started!

Spot on. Saints first rounder is also off the table too. Why risk nothing to get a slight pick upgrade. Makes no sense!