Game Day Carlton v St Kilda Practice Match Gameday Discussion

[Doro]

No, he can't. We have to accept that Doc, along with Plow and Jones and to a lesser extent Weiters and SPS regularly fluff their kicks and concede goals as a result. My view is changing, and I think it's too costly having so many players back there with inconsistent or unreliable kicks. I reckon we either need positional changes, game plan changes or one of them has to go in an attempt to find a better solution. Same applies to other areas of the ground.

Walsh hit a few flat ones straight to the opposition the other night as well. I'd rather we get it out of the way in the pre -season than round one though. Hopefully just some cobwebs to brush off.

 

[fnm_just a man]

Walsh hit a few flat ones straight to the opposition the other night as well. I'd rather we get it out of the way in the pre -season than round one though. Hopefully just done cobwebs to brush off.

Yeah, I know .. It's a big problem with our starting 22 and beyond .. So much so, that I think we really do have to start thinking about losing a couple of our settled senior players who offer other strengths, for younger guys who possess better kicks. Feel that we risk missing top 4 without it.

Of the regular midfield brigade, none of Cripps, Ed, Dow, Setters or Walsh are elite kicks, and three of them are probably comfortably below average.

 

[RPCB]

”Wake up! Our son just kicked a goal.“

“I become a member of the team of the century while I was still playing.”

 

[windows1]

R

Not going to happen any time soon sorry.

Reckon late in games many times this year we will say “thank God we have Ed”

 

[Neese]

I was yelling at screen......dosn't he have a GREGORY PECK !!!!


In all seriousness D.T. has to highlight this like Clarkson would.
We gotta get him some help.

Great footage Brackets

Yep few well timed bumps on Steele. See what happens round 1 though.

 

[Neese]

Some JSOS love ...

I don't love that Pool Boy mo but he was awesome

 

[Juice030103]

Do we try McGovern as a defender once Curnow comes back to see if we can add even more pace to our backline? They are happening less but out the back goals will hurt us still a bit this year and I reckon having a go with gov at back, especially with sos doing well, would be a good pathway to try

 

[Neese]

Not saying everything he touches turns to gold, but not sure what more he could have done either...

Had a direct hand in two i50s that resulted in Fish kicking a behind and Pitto not scoring.. Kicked two i50s himself .. Kicked a great goal that for some reason is being overlooked for the LOB pass (which for most teams is a pretty regulation pass).. Found himself free on the HFF, which probably would have resulted in another i50 but Fog fluffed a simple kick and it rolled out of bounds .. Would have been involved in a FP pocket contest but LOB's rushed kick floated out on the full .. I think he had a direct impact in 50% of the plays where he lined up in the centre square (2/4) ...

Honestly, I think he's our cleanest player (hands, disposal), best line-breaker and our most influential penetrating kick (along with Gov). The team needs to recognise this and use it for all it's worth. In a team crying out for speed, clean hands and good kicks, he should be in every best 22 and given every opportunity to become a premier midfielder - so far, he's lacked continuity and then gets thrown around in various positions/roles for short periods of time when he is fit. Not a great recipe for player development.

He needs to do it more often, not just as a cameo

 

[footyfan1978]

Do we try McGovern as a defender once Curnow comes back to see if we can add even more pace to our backline? They are happening less but out the back goals will hurt us still a bit this year and I reckon having a go with gov at back, especially with sos doing well, would be a good pathway to try

If Marchbaank not back it worth a try. But he really should just be an emergency if we got a few key backs or key forwards out.

 

[SurreyBlue]

The club needs to fix this issue ASAP.

 

[fnm_just a man]

He needs to do it more often, not just as a cameo

My point is that he doesn't appear to get the opportunities, nor get utilised effectively.

 

[thylacine60]

Carlton star Zac Williams set to ‘almost certainly’ be banned as new info emerges

Blues star’s ‘almost certain’ ban exposes ‘ridiculous’ AFL system

www-foxsports-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[OldBlueFan]

as I said our stoppage set ups are terrible... I literally saw an under twelve smiley face setup at one point and lost my sh*t.

And yet we were 4th in the league for clearances just last year:

Go figure ...

 

[Neese]

I got your point, I don't agree with it

 

[Metalcrusher]

And yet we were 4th in the league for clearances just last year:
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Go figure ...

Correct.

CLEARANCE

Credited to the player who has the first effective disposal in a chain that clears the stoppage area, or an ineffective kick or clanger kick that clears the stoppage area.

First effective disposal OR ineffective kick OR clanger kick ... does not guarantee we retain possession, which often we do not because a lot of our clearance work to date has been HACK kicks ....

I stand by what I have said Our clearance and stoppage work is sub par.

 

[Metalcrusher]

Carlton star Zac Williams set to ‘almost certainly’ be banned as new info emerges

Blues star’s ‘almost certain’ ban exposes ‘ridiculous’ AFL system

www-foxsports-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org

Said from the minute it happened Zac will get a week.

 

[OldBlueFan]

Correct.

CLEARANCE

Credited to the player who has the first effective disposal in a chain that clears the stoppage area, or an ineffective kick or clanger kick that clears the stoppage area.

First effective disposal OR ineffective kick OR clanger kick ... does not guarantee we retain possession, which often we do not because a lot of our clearance work to date has been HACK kicks ....

I stand by what I have said Our clearance and stoppage work is sub par.

Best you adjust your original comment then, eh? You said " our stoppage set ups are terrible ". If they are so terrible, how is it that we're getting " the first effective disposal " more often than 13 other clubs (I note that we tied with WC for clearances last year)?

 

[Metalcrusher]

Best you adjust your original comment then, eh? You said " our stoppage set ups are terrible ". If they are so terrible, how is it that we're getting " the first effective disposal " more often than 13 other clubs (I note that we tied with WC for clearances last year)?

You are missing the 2nd and third component of what constitutes a clearance ...... conveniently ..

 

[egalite]

Can you Blame him, watching that dross.

 

[V_23]

Jo: I'll give you $10, can you go get me some chips?

SOS: Give me $20...and I want a burger...with large chips.

Jo: SOS, this isn't trade week...

SOS: Goddamnit, Jo! Do I look like Dodoro to you?! That's my final offer!

 

[OldBlueFan]

You are missing the 2nd and third component of what constitutes a clearance ...... conveniently ..

Dude, I'm not "missing" anything. There's nothing in the post that I quoted about post-clearance disposal efficiency, or some 2nd or 3rd components of clearances. It only says there's an issue with SETUPS:

as I said our stoppage set ups are terrible... I literally saw an under twelve smiley face setup at one point and lost my sh*t.

Which is patently incorrect, given the clearance statistics from last year.

If you were wanting to criticise some other aspect of our clearance work, why did you only mention setups?

 

[Accidental genius]

watching the game i noticed jsos looks very determined and has a bit of a serious look on his face. he doesn't seem to smile/laugh as much as before. Giving it 110% effort which is great to see.

 

[Arr0w]

Show me wear I called them cheats then , all I said was that they made a few shocking decisions and I think more people on here agree than not .

Where did I mention you, I said others

How would I know what ?

How would you know whether Barker can coach or not unless you are part of the inner sanctum?

 

[Metalcrusher]

Dude, I'm not "missing" anything. There's nothing in the post that I quoted about post-clearance disposal efficiency, or some 2nd or 3rd components of clearances. It only says there's an issue with SETUPS:

Which is patently incorrect, given the clearance statistics from last year.

If you were wanting to criticise some other aspect of our clearance work, why did you only mention setups?

FFS ... do i need to spell everything out ... WE WERE PUMPED IN CLEARANCES OUR SET UP WAS ATROCIOUS! Won the hit outs ... LOST THE CLEARANCES .. ergo our setup were s**t.

 

[branedotorg]

Said from the minute it happened Zac will get a week.

The minute he left the ground and got his head he deserved it, as annoying as it is to lose him.

I hate this outcome based s**t that lets the AFL put its finger on the scale.