Carlton vs Kangaroo's

[SeymourLions]

Lets look at each's U/23 players, if you were an elite coach, and could pick which team on potential you would like to coach, whom would it be, Kangaroo's or Carlton?

Kangaroo's U/23's - In order of age

Daniel Pratt
Djaran Whyman
Eddie Sansbury
Michael Firrito
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Aaron Edwards
Joshua Gibson
David Hale
Blake Grima
Calum Urch
Hamish McIntosh
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Daniel Wells
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David Trotter
Scott McMahon
Daniel McConnell
Brad Moran
Jesse W. Smith
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Matt Campbell
Andrew Swallow
Ed Lower
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Timothy Hutchison
Lindsay Thomas
Matt Riggio
Leigh Adams
Gavin Urquhart
Todd Goldstein
Lachlan Hansen
Ben Hughes
Ben Ross
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Ben Warren



Carlton U/23's

Sentanta O'hAilpin
Ross Young
Bret Thornton
Andrew Carrazzo
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Bradley Fisher
Kade Simpson
Cameron Cloke
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Adam Bentick
Aisake O'hAilpin
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Adam Hartlett
Andrew Walker
Michael Jamieson
Jordan Russell
Luke Blackwell
Eddie Betts
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Ryan Jackson
Anthony Raso
Marc Murphy
Craig Flint
Joshua Kennedy
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Jake Edwards
Paul Bower
Sean Hampson
Sam Jacobs
Shaun Grigg
Clint Benjamin
Joe Anderson
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Mark Austin
Bryce Gibbs

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

Any team that contains Jordan Russell is going to crap.

So Kangaroos get my tick.

 

[captain subtext]

finally a poll Carlton can win

 

[one_twelve112]

The top 5 U/23's from those lists are;

1. Murphy
2. Gibbs
3. Simpson
4. Walker
5. Thornton/Wells

 

[JerryWexler]

finally a poll Carlton can win

I don't see where.

 

[JerryWexler]

The top 5 U/23's from those lists are;

1. Murphy
2. Gibbs
3. Simpson
4. Walker
5. Thornton/Wells

Hahahahahaha

 

[captain subtext]

The top 5 U/23's from those lists are;

1. Murphy
2. Gibbs
3. Simpson
4. Walker
5. Thornton/Wells

Gibbs hasn't played yet, why do carlton supporters forget this? And Wells is better than Simpson and Walker.

 

[Thrawn]

Gibbs hasn't played yet, why do carlton supporters forget this? And Wells is better than Simpson and Walker.

Simpson has been more solid than Wells so far, including having a better year last year. He's also more consistent.

 

[Pykie]

The top 5 U/23's from those lists are;

1. Murphy
2. Gibbs
3. Simpson
4. Walker
5. Thornton/Wells

Would actually say its something like this:

1. Wells
2. Murphy
3. McIntosh
4. Thornton
5. Jesse W. Smith

 

[one_twelve112]

Gibbs hasn't played yet, why do carlton supporters forget this? And Wells is better than Simpson and Walker.

Maybe 3 times a year he is. A little too inconsistant to be rated any higher unfortunately.

 

[Pykie]

Simpson has been more solid than Wells so far, including having a better year last year. He's also more consistent.

Wells finished second in our best and fairest last year.....

And last year was Kade's breakout year, Daniel has been well known since his very first season.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Would actually say its something like this:

1. Wells
2. Murphy
3. McIntosh
4. Thornton
5. Jesse W. Smith

Swap Murphy with Wells, Replace Mcintosh with Josh Kennedy, and you got my list

 

[mark73]

Swap Murphy with Wells, Replace Mcintosh with Josh Kennedy, and you got my list

Based on what? NAB cup form?

 

[one_twelve112]

Wells finished second in our best and fairest last year.....

And last year was Kade's breakout year, Daniel has been well known since his very first season.

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Wells', however I too have been extremely disappointed with his inconsistancy at AFL level.
Finishing high in the Kangaroos BF is hardly an achievement....I doubt it would be too difficult.

 

[Pykie]

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of Wells', however I too have been extremely disappointed with his inconsistancy at AFL level.
Finishing high in the Kangaroos BF is hardly an achievement....I doubt it would be too difficult.

Well, seeing as Kade had a better season than Daniel last year, and Carlton finished 16th, id expect Kade to have at least finished 1st or 2nd in the Blues b & f?

Didnt think so.

I like Simpson, but i think he is largely overated for the one decent season he has to date.

 

[makethat2]

The top 5 U/23's from those lists are;

1. Murphy
2. Gibbs
3. Simpson
4. Walker
5. Thornton/Wells

Thats just ignorant. Gibbs hasn't played yet and shown stuff all in the NAB cup so far, Walker plays a shut down roll with no creativness and can't kick and you can't tell me any oppisition worrys about the impact the Simpson will have on a game. His a good player that gets alot of it in the back half but Wells is a player teams need to stop. I'l give you Murphy though as equal to Wells but Murph will pass him.

 

[mark73]

Finishing high in the Kangaroos BF is hardly an achievement....I doubt it would be too difficult.

Whats wrong with this statement in relation to this poster?

 

[mark73]

Thats just ignorant. Gibbs hasn't played yet and shown stuff all in the NAB cup so far, Walker plays a shut down roll with no creativness and can't kick and you can't tell me any oppisition worrys about the impact the Simpson will have on a game. His a good player that gets alot of it in the back half but Wells is a player teams need to stop. I'l give you Murphy though as equal to Wells but Murph will pass him.

Most of us stopped taking this guy seriously after his second post.

 

[Pykie]

Swap Murphy with Wells, Replace Mcintosh with Josh Kennedy, and you got my list

A top 5 is hard, a top 10 is easier.


1. Wells
2. Murphy
3. Mcintosh
4. Thornton
5. Jesse W. Smith
6. Josh Kennedy
7. Andrew Swallow
8. David Hale
9. Bryce Gibbs
10. Lachlan Hansen


top 20.

11. Kade Simpson
12. Lindsay Thomas
13. Michael Firrito
14. Andrew Walker
15. Brad Moran
16. Anthony Carrazzo
17. Matt Campbell
18. Sentanta O'hAilpin
19. Matt Riggio
20. Sean Hampson

 

[one_twelve112]

....Well, seeing as Kade had a better season than Daniel last year...

True. Hence I chose Kade well ahead of Daniel.

Also, who is Jesse W. Smith, and what does he have to do with the poll?

 

[one_twelve112]

Most of us stopped taking this guy seriously after his second post.

If you bothered reading the poll you would see it clearly says 'based on potential', thus I picked with that in mind, not simply on face value.
Fool

 

[Thrawn]

Well, seeing as Kade had a better season than Daniel last year, and Carlton finished 16th, id expect Kade to have at least finished 1st or 2nd in the Blues b & f?

Didnt think so.

I like Simpson, but i think he is largely overated for the one decent season he has to date.

Teague won our B&F in 2004 and there were players who had better years than him.

Yours is indicative of a more even spread of performance. Was Wells truly your 2nd best player last year? And how close was the count exactly? You have to realise that B&F are sometimes not the best indicator of player performance because the resutls are just plain strange sometimes.

IMO going on form Kade would've been under Fevola and Whitnall in terms of performance last year. Maybe put Stevens in there too. The difference is that while you probably had the performance shared by several, we've only the few who actually play very well for the whole year. I suspect a more even spread will move us up the ladder this year instead of relying on a few players all the time to get us through.

 

[chickens_law]

This poll is ****ed. Carlton has had way better picks than us in the draft. But our players are still better.

 

[Shakin77]

A top 5 is hard, a top 10 is easier.


1. Wells
2. Murphy
3. Mcintosh
4. Thornton
5. Jesse W. Smith
6. Josh Kennedy
7. Andrew Swallow
8. David Hale
9. Bryce Gibbs
10. Lachlan Hansen


top 20.

11. Kade Simpson
12. Lindsay Thomas
13. Michael Firrito
14. Andrew Walker
15. Brad Moran
16. Anthony Carrazzo
17. Matt Campbell
18. Sentanta O'hAilpin
19. Matt Riggio
20. Sean Hampson

Psst:

Before anyone notices, you have Swallow ahead of Simpson. Kade is the guy that went to Ireland. You have also got Thomas, Campbell and Riggio on your list.

 

[one_twelve112]

....This poll is ****ed...

Still a little angry about the Rawlings and Hay Draft Fiasco's?