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Based on how the BF phantom draft is going, I will update how I would have drafted given the players that are missing.

1 - Gold Coast - Matt Rowell
2 - Gold Coast -Noah Anderson
3 - Melbourne - Hayden Young
4 - GWS - Tom Green (matched bid)
5 - Adelaide - Sam Flanders
6 - Sydney - Luke Jackson
7 - Fremantle - Dylan Stephens
8 - Melbourne - Caleb Serong
10 Fremantle - Deven Robertson
9 - Carlton - Lachlan Ash
11 Hawthorn - Brodie Kemp
12 Port Adelaide - Fischer McAsey
13 Western Bulldogs - Cody Weightman
14 Fremantle - Liam Henry (Matched Bid)
15 Hawthorn - Finn Maginness (Matched Bid)
16 Geelong - Miles Bergman
17 Gold Coast Suns - Will Gould
18 Brisbane - Trent Rivers
19 Geelong - Cooper Stephens

20 Port Adelaide - Josh Worrell
21 Richmond - Will Day
22 Gold Coast - Trent Bianco



Our Draft Selections
Pick 10 - Ash - I would still select Ash, assuming Fremantle pick Robertson.
Pick 17 - Rivers - I would have picked Rivers here as I feel like he can also play forward
Pick 22 - Elijah Taylor - Small forward with massive amount of upside.
( I would not complain if someone wanted or preferred Dylan Williams.)
Pick 43
Pick 57
Hi LM, there seems to be some noise around Bergman, what's your take on home.

I've been liking Cahill for a late pick for us for a couple of weeks, is he in your sights?
 

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The main area I'd like SOS to tackle is our transition from defence to attack. It's simply far too slow. Draft Prospects such as Trent Bianco, Jeremy Sharp, Lachie Ash and Dylan Stephens help to address this area with speed, acceleration, endurance, accumulation and elite foot skills. The other area I'd like to see SOS address is finding a young ruckman to develop. The fact that Essendon attempted to bring Sandilands out of retirement should indicate that the current batch of backup ruckmen on AFL lists simply don't measure up.

2019 Picks: 9, 43, 57, 70, 85
Future Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th.

Draft Strategy with Pick 9.
SOS can either spend Pick 9 or trade Pick 9, but if he does choose to trade Pick 9 then it will happen on the night. According to rumours I've heard (but unable to confirm) SOS has been approached by three clubs, Gold Coast, Fremantle & Geelong. Interestingly, they're supposedly all after the same draft prospect, Luke Jackson.

Rumoured/Potential Trade Scenarios
Trade 1: Gold Coast
The Suns approached SOS about trading Pick 9 and our Future 2nd for Picks 15 & 20. There will be an Academy Selection and potentially 2 Father/Son Selections as well as an NGA selection so these Picks could end up being 19 & 24. SOS and Brodie have declined this offer, but informed the Suns they open to trading Pick 9 if they consider the offer good enough.​
Trade 2: Fremantle
Freo are very, very keen on Jackson, but are concerned the Cats will beat them to the punch. The Dockers have offered up Picks 10 and 69 for Pick 9. SOS & Brodie are adamant that any deal must include Pick 22. Should it go ahead, the final deal may look something like:​
Picks 10 & 22 to Carlton > Picks 9 & Future 2nd to the Dockers.​
Trade 3: Geelong
Like us, the Cats have issues with their ruck division and have made no secret of their wish to acquire Jackson. SOS is supposedly more open to dealing with Wells due to potential of greater exposure to the 2019 National Draft. While I haven't any details (the mail wasn't that good), potential trades could look like, but not necessarily limited to:​
Pick 9 & Future 1st to Geelong > Picks 14, 17 & 24 to Carlton​
Pick 9 & Future 2nd to Geelong > Picks 14 & 17 to Carlton​

Pick Swaps
Swap 1: Geelong
Despite the potential trade scenarios above, even if they can't get Pick 9, I think Wells and his team may be amenable to orchestrating a Pick swap, because that still gives them plenty of exposure in this years National Draft while potentially improving their position in next years draft. One needs to remember though that Pick 17 may well become Pick 19 or 20 by the time you account for Father/Son, NGA & Academy selections.​
Future 1st to Geelong > Pick 17 & Cats Future 1st to Carlton.​

Ideal Scenario (at least in a perfect world).
Trade 2: Fremantle
Pick 9 & Future 2nd to Fremantle > Picks 10 & 22 to Carlton​
Pick Swap: Geelong
Future 1st to Geelong > Pick 17 & Cats Future 1st to Carlton​
Gives us great selection of Picks in the 2019 National Draft while leaving us with a 1st Rounder in the 2020 National Draft.

Final Draft Position
2019 Picks: 10, 17, 22, 43, 57, 70
2020 Picks: Cats 1st, 3rd, 5th.

Draft Selections - Top Ten
Pick 1: Matthew Rowell - Gold Coast
Well knock me down with a feather....​
Pick 2: Noah Anderson - Gold Coast
De Goey clone. Dunno what they see in him tbh.​
Pick 3: Tom Green - GWS (matching bid from Melbourne)
Fits the Demons MO perfectly, but unfortunately the Giants have first dibs.​
Pick 4: Sam Flanders - Melbourne
Seriously good forward pocket with vice-like hands that is tremendous at finding his own ball inside 50 or through the midfield. Would love him at the Blues.​
Pick 5: Caleb Serong - Adelaide
Will provide a point of difference both up forward and through the middle for the Crows. Great addition to go with Chayce Jones from last year.​
Pick 6: Hayden Young - Sydney
The Swans need a lot of things as they start their rebuild. Don't be surprised if they take Deven Robertson here as their midfield is another area that requires refurbishment.​
Pick 7: Lachie Ash - Fremantle
With an ageing Stephen Hill and after losing Brad Hill, the Dockers will be looking for someone with elite disposal and speed. Ash fits the bill.​
Pick 8: Brodie Kemp - Melbourne
After trading Hogan, Weideman not coming on and McDonald's injury and form issues, the Demons got found out for a lack of tall forwards last year. Kemp's versatility could be exactly what they're looking for......although he's unlikely to be much help next season.​
Pick 9: Luke Jackson - Fremantle (traded from Carlton)
Along with the Cats & Suns, the Dockers are very, very keen on Jackson.​
Pick 10: Dylan Stephens - Carlton (traded from Fremantle)
Speedy outside mid with a huge tank that can accumulate possessions and has a penetrating left foot.​
Our Draft Selections
Pick 10 - Dylan Stephens 183cm, 74kg, 8/1/2001, Outside Midfielder, Norwood SA.
Outside midfielder with pace to burn, good acceleration and has a massive tank. Like many natural lefties Stephens has an accurate, raking kick with good penetration, but tends to be deadliest over longer distances rather than shorter ones. Apart from the U18 Nationals, all of Stephens games have been at SANFL League or Reserves level against men where he averaged 19 disposals/match and 31 disposals/match respectively. One of the issues I tend to have with outside midfielders is their ability to find their own ball. Stephens essentially played an outside role at League level with only 33% of his possessions were contested, but when asked to play a more inside/balanced role at Reserve level over 61% of his possessions were contested......so he can find his own ball when required. The other thing I like about Stephens is his excellent work rate. His defensive running and preparedness to tackle is first rate, which is something many of our current midfielders lack. I think a line-breaking midfielder with excellent disposal and the running power of Walsh would be a fantastic addition to our list. Although only lightly-framed at this stage, I think Stephens has already demonstrated that he's good enough that he'll be pushing for a spot from Round 1.​

Pick 17 - Cooper Stephens 188cm, 83kg, 17/1/2001, Inside Midfielder, Geelong Falcons, Vic Country
I'm one who believes when you see a bargain you take it and that you can never have enough players who know how to get their hands on the ball. Had the Geelong Falcon's Co-Captain not broken his leg in the 3rd Round of the NAB League, I suspect we could be talking about Stephens as a potential Top 10 Pick. His best work is done around the stoppages with clean, sharp hands and short kicks based upon good decisions, however his long kicking when running flat knacker needs work. The traits that typify Stephens are his effort, application, consistency, work ethic and hardness around the contest. Stephens' was held in such high regard that despite being ruled out of the U18 Champs he was still named as Vice-Captain of the Vic Country squad. Although arriving at the Draft Combine with a limited fitness base Stephens still managed to top the demanding Yo-Yo test recording 21.8 and running vertical jump of 83cm. While I would expect Stephens to spend much of his first year at VFL level honing some areas of his game and rebuilding some of his fitness base he's demonstrated that he's already got much of the physical size and endurance he'll require at AFL level. I think it's also important not pigeon-hole players to a certain position as Stephens has also demonstrated his ability to play some good footy across half-back as an underager during the 2018 U18 Nationals against a very powerful SA side.​
*Pick 17 is likely to become Pick 19 or 20 with potential bids on Maginness, Henry and Mead pushing it out.

Pick 22 - Trent Bianco 178cm, 70kg, 20/1/2001, Defender, Oakleigh Chargers, Vic Metro
Bianco is a small running defender, much in the style of Jayden Short or Kade Simpson, but probably a little more capable of finding his own ball when required. Bianco generally plays on the outside where he accelerates down the ground before picking out a team mate with his sublime foot skills. He is an extremely damaging player simply due to sheer amount of metres he takes off the opposition before they can react. The Oakleigh Chargers' skipper had a superb 2019 NAB League season where he averaged almost 27 disposals/match with around two-thirds of those distributed by his lethal kicking. One of the things I really like about Bianco is how good his decision-making and execution is at top speed and as a result he rarely makes mistakes or commits clangers. Other things I like are his effort, application and consistency, so you know exactly what you're going to get from him each time he takes the field. Bianco's strengths can also be his weakness at times and he can find himself caught out of position occasionally, especially if the team mate he's just delivered the ball to turns it over. Bianco is very light-bodied at this stage and will need to hit the gym, but as Simmo and Short have already demonstrated, you don't need to be built like Arnie to play this role.​
*Pick 22 could end up being around Pick 25 or 26.
*I also looked hard at Sharp here, but preferred Dylan Stephens earlier.
Pick 43 - Nick Bryan 202cm, 87kg, 22/10/2001, Ruck, Oakleigh Chargers, Vic Metro
At some point you've got to bite the bullet and develop a ruckman and I won't lie, Bryan will take somewhere in the 2-4 year range to bring up to AFL standard. Not only is he tall, but he runs 20m in 2.91sec, has a standing vertical leap of 69 cm and has very clean hands at ground level. Although he's not Ben King quick, it was quite amazing to watch him run away from the opposition when he decides to use his speed. One area where Bryan has significantly improved this year is his contested marking. At this stage he is obviously still very raw, but I think he's got enormous scope for development and improvement in his game. I see our ruck division as our achilles heal. We have a once-in-a-generation midfielder in Cripps and potentially another one in Walsh, without a quality ruckman to give them a regular first look at the ball. Kreuzer struggles to get off the ground these days and was comfortably pantsed by virtually every quality ruckman he came up against this year. Pittonet's aggression will be more than welcome, but like Kreuzer, he doesn't often get off the ground and he's relatively slow. Anyone who has watched TDK at VFL level will tell you that he's yet to show he's got the tank to be a full-time ruck and Casboult is really a fill-in. As stated earlier, at some point you've got to bite the bullet and develop a ruckman and Nick Bryan would make for an exciting start.​
*Pick 43 may come in to around Pick 41.

Pick 57 - Hugo Ralphsmith 186cm, 77kg, 9/11/2001, Forward, Sandringham Dragons, Vic Metro
Ralphsmith is one of a number of medium X-Factor forwards available for selection in the 2019 National Draft that also includes Elijah Taylor and Miles Bergman. Ralphsmith is capable dragging down spectacular marks, running rings around opponents, bursting away from traffic at break-neck speed and kicking unbelievable goals, but like many X-Factor types he can also go missing for extended periods of time. Where Ralphsmith is different to many X-Factor types is that he's not limited by a lack of endurance and he tested extremely well in the Yo-Yo test and the 2km time trial. While there have been some comparisons with Jaidyn Stephenson and he may look not dissimilar to Stephenson with ball in hand he is not. I watched Stephenson single-handedly rip apart an SA side at U18 National Championship level with 30 disposals and 5 goals from a wing, the most Ralphsmith has achieved is 20 disposals and 1 goal at NAB League level. There's a big difference. Apart from consistency, the other areas of his game he'll need to improve upon is his defensive work-rate and tackling, which is relatively poor given his speed and endurance. Despite his obvious talent and appeal, unlike Bergman, Ralphsmith is yet to demonstrate he can win a game off his own boot and for this reason I think he'll go a little later than many expect.​

Rookie Draft
I'm only looking to take one Rookie, but I'd really like to see SOS get away from these lost souls of dubious character such as Bugg & Fasolo simply because they've got a senior body. Having said that, one player I would potentially look at that's had a couple of cracking years across half-back and through the middle at SANFL level is Jack Trengove. Otherwise I'd be happy to look at a couple kids who know how to get their hands on the ball. Potential prospects to choose from could include:

Option 1 - Cameron Wild 184cm, 80kg, 28/11/2001, Outside Midfielder, Murray Bushrangers.
Wild moved from Northern to Murray this year where he was able to substantially develop his game and improved his average output from 12.8 disposals/match to 23.8 disposals per match over 13 games. He also represented Vic Country for 2 games at 2019 U18 Nationals where he averaged 15 disposals/match on limited game time. While he's not as quick as Trent Bianco or Dylan Stephens, he's still more than quick enough to put himself into space where he can run with ball in hand and cause the opposition headaches if they don't pay him due attention or respect. While only a third of his possessions are contested, Wild still averages over 3 clearances/game proving he's more than capable of finding his own ball when required.​

Option 2 - Zakery Pretty 183cm, 80kg, 27/7/2001, Balanced Midfielder, Eastern Ranges.
Had an excellent year for Eastern averaging 25.2 disposals over 17 games. Plays as a true balanced midfielder with almost a 50/50 split between contested and uncontested possession. Generally plays within his limitations and as a result he prefers to dish off to a player in the clear by hand rather than foot. One area that's not so pretty is his defensive rating and this is another area he'll need to work on to make it at the next level. I suspect he might be just a little too Pretty to make it into the Rookie Draft, but you just never, never know​
This is just outstanding. It is Post of the year stuff. Really put me in the picture. If the draft drops off after 15, and adding all the compromised picks, then isn't pick 9 better than trading for 2 picks in the teens? I know it is simplistic but better safe than sorry
 

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Hi LM, there seems to be some noise around Bergman, what's your take on home.

I've been liking Cahill for a late pick for us for a couple of weeks, is he in your sights?
I really like Bergman, but if you're talking about pick 9 for him, I feel like there may be better options. If we're trading back later in the draft, then he may become a viable option. In the BF draft I had the ability to secure Ash, not sure I would take Bergman over him.

I really like Cahill, I selected him in the BF mock draft a few months ago, nothing has really changed. I am rolling the dice a little in this mock draft and going for other options hoping he will slide a heap. Thinking with the potential of Betts and Martin on our list and maybe still aiming for Paps next year, a small forward is not super high on our list of options.

I would love to boost some of our rebounding defenders and inside midfielders with a slight eye on one late round ruck option.
 

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I really like Bergman, but if you're talking about pick 9 for him, I feel like there may be better options. If we're trading back later in the draft, then he may become a viable option. In the BF draft I had the ability to secure Ash, not sure I would take Bergman over him.

I really like Cahill, I selected him in the BF mock draft a few months ago, nothing has really changed. I am rolling the dice a little in this mock draft and going for other options hoping he will slide a heap. Thinking with the potential of Betts and Martin on our list and maybe still aiming for Paps next year, a small forward is not super high on our list of options.

I would love to boost some of our rebounding defenders and inside midfielders with a slight eye on one late round ruck option.
Thanks LM, appreciate it.

I wasn't thinking Bergman for pick 9, but was thinking all the noise around him going top 15, he may be in contention if we do swap picks.

Cheers
 

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From my viewing, 2 players who i have put in my "don't want" basket are Jack Mahony and Darcy Casser.

The one who has me flumoxed a bit is Harrison Jones. He can play and has the ability/potential quotient, but by god he is ultra thin. Jack Gunston or Jarryd Grant....i just don't know. He looks more Gunston smooth, but damn he's thin for 195cm.
 

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From my viewing, 2 players who i have put in my "don't want" basket are Jack Mahony and Darcy Casser.

The one who has me flumoxed a bit is Harrison Jones. He can play and has the ability/potential quotient, but by god he is ultra thin. Jack Gunston or Jarryd Grant....i just don't know. He looks more Gunston smooth, but damn he's thin for 195cm.
I watched Jones live and he stood out like Dogs balls to me. While he does not have the high production, everything he does screams AFL to me.

He obviously has to work on body size and increased output, but he has many AFL tools. Clean hands, great marking, intelligent delivery into the forward line.
 

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I watched Jones live and he stood out like Dogs balls to me. While he does not have the high production, everything he does screams AFL to me.

He obviously has to work on body size and increased output, but he has many AFL tools. Clean hands, great marking, intelligent delivery into the forward line.
Yeah. He can play. Got easy seperation on the lead a few times too. I suppose how high he eventually goes on draft night will be how the experts think he can build up a little. At KPF height, it's pretty much a must.

If he's got the genetic ability to build strength, not necessarily bulk, he's got backend 1st/2nd rd potential for sure. But he's a real piece of spaghetti at the moment.
 

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I suggest everyone download AFL Draft Central's free Draft Guide


Has some great info, including
  • Detailed profiles on the top 30 prospects
  • Profiles on every kid at the national combine
  • Profiles on every kid from the state combines
  • But wait, there's more...
  • Some extra profiles - coz you can never have enough profiles!
  • Profiles on top 18 AFLW recruits
  • A free set of steak knives - I haven't seen any, but it wouldn't surprise me
You need to enter your email to download the file. But these peeps have made an outstanding effort collating all the info. And I think it's worth handing over your interwebz electronic mail address for it. :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
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Great effort on the ^^^
You may have been through this somewhere else but what’s your thoughts on D. Williams?
Also, would there be enough quality around to swing our 2020 1st for BL’s #16 & 21 along with #9 for GC’s #15 & 20?
Kemp or Jackson if real sliders?
Or D.Williams, C.Stephens, SDK, K.Pickett (or another rated small forward) with Brock Smith @ #43?
Fair haul of forwards, mid, defenders but development paths to be tread.
The last thing we need right now is to wipe out our trade hand next year to load up another 4-5 draftees in the 10-20 range.
 

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From my viewing, 2 players who i have put in my "don't want" basket are Jack Mahony and Darcy Casser.

The one who has me flumoxed a bit is Harrison Jones. He can play and has the ability/potential quotient, but by god he is ultra thin. Jack Gunston or Jarryd Grant....i just don't know. He looks more Gunston smooth, but damn he's thin for 195cm.
I had read plenty about what a good prospect mahony would be later on in the draft.
Watched some NAB league highlights of Mahoney and was left very underwhelmed.


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Freo is a complex one as they are also looking to draft Henry from their academy, so may be hesitant to trade pick 10 until the death, in case Melbourne bid for him at #8, which is highly possible. They may take the lower risk option and select Jackson at #7, then still have #11 available to match Melbourne's bid. If nobody bids for Henry, then they're in a stronger position to use points to secure him, so can keep pick 11 anyway.
If Melbourne are likely to bid on Henry with pick 8, why wouldn't we target Fremantle's pick 10 in exchange for our future first (maybe some shuffling of later picks too)?
Any club that bids on Henry with a Top 10 Pick will be guaranteed to own him. While he's quite a good prospect, he's not Top 10 material. I think people need to take their small forward blinkers off.

The thing that surprises me is that we would be after so many picks this year? Do you know much more on our thoughts on why we are looking at this outside of next year being a compromised draft?I always believed this year and next we were keener to trade our picks away to bring in the experienced talent to finish our list rather than going to the draft to build organically still. The reality is that we're talking 4 years before these draftees are significantly contributing and will have broken into the 22 so just seems inconsistent with messaging from the club. I can see us taking 1 or 2 quality players and some project players for needs but would be really surprised if we traded away picks from next year that we'll need to bring experienced players in with.
The third scenario - pick #9 & future 2nd to Geelong > picks #14 & #17 to Carlton - would be the best result for us...not sure if we'd want to trade our future first if there is the potential to trade for Papley or Wines next year. That gives them #9 and #24, and be in a great position to get Jackson...or if Freo pick him at #7, still gives them access to a top 10 pick.
I think people need to get their heads around the bigger picture for this year and next.
  1. Potentially 13 of the Top 30 picks in the 2020 Draft will be Father/Son, NGA or Northern State Academy selections.
  2. Pick 5 could end up being Pick 8, or Pick 10 could end up being 16, so in a trade sense, how much currency do you really think a 2020 mid 1st Rounder will actually hold???
  3. There will be 10-12 clubs aiming to reduce their exposure to next years draft and looking to top up through Free Agency and OOC players. The increased competition for these players will drive their price up both in terms of salary and the draft selections required to obtain them. If you thought West Coast and St.Kilda paid through the nose for Kelly and Hill, or that Essendon, Sydney and GCS wanted way overs for Daniher, Papley & Martin, then you better brace yourselves as they'll all be like this next year. Do you really want to be forking out $800k/yr for 4 years to a Jack Martin-type player or pay two Top 10 Picks for Papley???
  4. Forget Papley Bamboo Harvester, that boat has sailed IMO. If Pick 9 in a relatively uncompromised draft couldn't get a deal done then I don't know why people think a similar pick in a heavily compromised 2020 draft will.
Great work - Love it!
But, just a quick question - do we have the list space for all of these draft acquisitions?
Out: Pickett, Garlett, Kerr, Phillips, Lobbe, Schumacher, LeBois, Deluca, Fasolo, Thomas
Ten in total, but one could be offset given that Cottrell was brought in for Docherty.​
I would've loved to have seen SOS delist Polson and then bring him back as a Rookie given he already has a contract for next year. Although I suspect that boat may have sailed now. While Jimmae is a bit more knowledgeable in this area than me there are a couple of other clubs that have done this.​
In: Pittonet, Betts, Newnes.
(Martin isn't ours yet)​
So in answer to your question - Yes.

Amazing post The Smoking Gun. Small point: if you’re really wanting to fix transition from defence then PRAY Ash is available and we snap him up immediately. It’s him first and daylight second, third and fourth for speed of transition out of the backline in this draft. The other players you mentioned won’t really help it much. Whereas Ash will transform it.
I've had Ash in around my Top 5 all year so expecting him to be there at Pick 9 or 10 isn't realistic IMO. I don't have an issue with Bianco or Dylan Stephens. They're more than solid enough prospects and should be realistically available at the selections I've taken them with.

I don't think there's a situation, however, where GWS lose their Pick 6 in meeting a bid for Green. They either Pick swap with Melbourne or Adelaide, or if they believe a deal won't get done for Pick 6 they'll try trade out of the first round into next years 1st round and try and accumulate points for Green, maybe with a pick swap of some sorts
  • I watched Tom Green almost single-handedly carry the Allies over the line against a very strong Vic Metro midfield that contained Rowell, Anderson & Maginness. Green was comfortably BOG. Rowell & Anderson have decimated & dominated at NAB League level, but up against the best of the best at the U18 Nationals both Green and Robertson had their measure. IMO Green is the best prospect in this years National Draft, while Robertson is the most under-rated.
  • I can't see anyone entering into a Pick Swap with GWS. They will simply finish too high up the ladder and in a heavily compromised 2020 Draft where Pick 17 could end up being Pick 30, I'm struggling to see how it would make any sense. GWS are not Geelong where I see the potential to slide.
  • GWS have already used Picks 12 & 18 to get themselves up to Pick 6 and they do not have the currency available (in either current or future picks) to make it worthwhile for Melbourne or Adelaide to enter into a trade. (see point 2).
I have a different view on the other two players you have selected with 17 & 22, for myself I'd be going for some forwards who we have none of coming through except Owies who is a catB rookie and did show some good signs in the back half of last year, DylanWilliams ElijahTaylor KossiePickett are the kids i like for these selections.
Of the 3 kids you mentioned the only one I seriously looked at with Pick 22 was Elijah Taylor. Couldn't go with Dylan Williams as stress fractures of the back and young bodies are not a good mix and is a red flag for me. Lastly, I'm not a Pickett fan.
 

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Based on how the BF phantom draft is going, I will update how I would have drafted given the players that are missing.

1 - Gold Coast - Matt Rowell
2 - Gold Coast -Noah Anderson
3 - Melbourne - Hayden Young
4 - GWS - Tom Green (matched bid)
5 - Adelaide - Sam Flanders
6 - Sydney - Luke Jackson
7 - Fremantle - Dylan Stephens
8 - Melbourne - Caleb Serong
10 Fremantle - Deven Robertson
9 - Carlton - Lachlan Ash
11 Hawthorn - Brodie Kemp
12 Port Adelaide - Fischer McAsey
13 Western Bulldogs - Cody Weightman
14 Fremantle - Liam Henry (Matched Bid)
15 Hawthorn - Finn Maginness (Matched Bid)
16 Geelong - Miles Bergman
17 Gold Coast Suns - Will Gould
18 Brisbane - Trent Rivers
19 Geelong - Cooper Stephens

20 Port Adelaide - Josh Worrell
21 Richmond - Will Day
22 Gold Coast - Trent Bianco



Our Draft Selections
Pick 10 - Ash - I would still select Ash, assuming Fremantle pick Robertson.
Pick 17 - Rivers - I would have picked Rivers here as I feel like he can also play forward
Pick 22 - Elijah Taylor - Small forward with massive amount of upside.
( I would not complain if someone wanted or preferred Dylan Williams.)
Pick 43
Pick 57
Cheers LemmingMaster. As you gathered the post was designed to get people to look past Pick 9 and see what tools SOS could potentially use to give us greater exposure to the top end of the Draft. I also wanted people to explore other options other than just small forwards. Glad it piqued your interest.

My post was already a bit of a stretch having SOS pulling off a both an optimum Trade and Pick Swap. I felt that expecting Ash to slide all the way out to Pick 10 was probably just one stretch too far if the post was to maintain at least some credibility. I do think there may be a faint chance of Rivers making it to Pick 19 as he hasn't been given the exposure to senior footy that other kids such as Sharp have. As stated in my previous post, I looked very hard at Elijah Taylor with Pick 22. Will probably end up McGovern size when he's finished growing which would make him a somewhat unique and tantalising prospect.

Just as you like Trey Ruscoe, I've been big on Cooper Stephens all year as you know. Do we really need another inside mid??? Probably not, but he is explosive and I can't just jump off the bandwagon now!!!
 

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