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Definitely Sam MacLure.
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Interesting to see where that places him. Could drift out to pick 15 or so.
Is Bailey Dale worth a shot
Ideally find a club that has some decent Academy player or Father Son pick that taken just around then in predictions and trade them a bunch of later picks that add to what they need to match a bid on their kid and we get a pick in mid 20's somewhere from it. Plenty of ways to engineer these things now but remember other clubs will be trying this stuff too. Well the smart ones will. Still a few dopey list management groups around like Crows etc.If we happen to land Coniglio and Papley, I'd love us to get a pick back into the second round for a chance to grab Dylan Williams if he was available and somehow slipped out to pick 23+ Maybe another live trade possibility...
There's a couple of clubs GWS and WCE that have multiple picks atm that could be looking for deals that would benefit themselves for Academy players- Green and Kelly going back home, the lower Adelaide finish personally i think the more likely that SOS will turn that pick into greater deals for ourselves that will possibly help land players and picks...Ideally find a club that has some decent Academy player or Father Son pick that taken just around then in predictions and trade them a bunch of later picks that add to what they need to match a bid on their kid and we get a pick in mid 20's somewhere from it. Plenty of ways to engineer these things now but remember other clubs will be trying this stuff too. Well the smart ones will. Still a few dopey list management groups around like Crows etc.
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What a sad thread this has become this year. No early picks to discuss.
I haven't followed the underage crop this year at all, but for the little I have seen, there just doesn't seem to be a lot to really get excited about.
Naturally, there will be quality players coming through, but given our situation and the likeliness of not taking Adelaides first to the draft, the interest has vastly diminished.
The question will arise elsewhere and not only on this board, but where would Stocker have slotted into this mix if he was involved?
Would like to hear someone like a Sheehan or even Twomey discuss this.
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What a sad thread this has become this year. No early picks to discuss.
I haven't followed the underage crop this year at all, but for the little I have seen, there just doesn't seem to be a lot to really get excited about.
Naturally, there will be quality players coming through, but given our situation and the likeliness of not taking Adelaides first to the draft, the interest has vastly diminished.
The question will arise elsewhere and not only on this board, but where would Stocker have slotted into this mix if he was involved?
Would like to hear someone like a Sheehan or even Twomey discuss this.
I was really disappointed in the quality of the Championships this year. I am NOT just saying this because we have a minor hand this year but as a genuine assessment. I look at the draft as a holistic enjoyment not just a Carlton exercise. Most of us here in this thread including yourself do likewise.
I thought the midfield crops were ordinary at best. I thought there were zero key forwards which in turn flattered the key defenders. I do like the ruck crop of Jackson, Bryan and Comben though, even though the latter 2 are longtermers.
Kemp and Williams are clearly my favorite prospects, and now Kemps done a knee.
The top players i sort of negatively see as are:
Rowell- gun but only a midget mid. I could never rate McGrath in the Top 5 in his year for the same reason. Rowell is also already muscled up unlike a Walsh. Although that hasn't hurt Worpel. He does seem to have the mindset.
Anderson - Gun but not very contested. Maybe it's memories of his ol man but i can't get enthused about using a Top 3 pick on him.
Serong- gun junior but a midget and a tad slow. Not really keen on that package with a top pick.
Young and Ashe - guns but just back flankers at AFL i think.
Flanders and Gould are questionable re scope.
All in all, not an exciting top crop imo. Personally, i'm probably still having Kemp and Williams up at the top and banking on their talent to be difference makers at AFL level.
This was my list as at July 4 that i posted in this thread. Wouldn't change a lot. Maybe a bit of shuffling. I still think Dylan Williams footy in the TAC finals was better than anything at the Carnival. Not too worried about his slowish year so far this year. Robertson i like. Jackson i like. McAsey i like. Pickett i like. I see these as value picks who i can see being AFL good uns at value from where they look like being ranked..
1. Brodie Kemp
2. Dylan Williams
3. Matt Rowell
4. Deven Robertson
5. Noah Anderson
6. Hayden Young
7. Cam Taheny
8. Luke Jackson
9. Lachie Ashe
10. Fisher McAsey
11. Nick Bryan
12. Elijah Taylor
13. Harry Schoenberg
14. Will Gould
15. Sam Flanders
16. Mal Rosas
17. Charlie Comben
18. Ky Pickett
19. Liam Henry
20. Trent Rivers
21. Mitch O'Neill
22. Jeremy Sharp
23. Tom Green
24. Caleb Serong
25. Sam DeKonning
Little doubt that Rowell & Anderson will be good players, but they just don't scream 1 & 2 to me in most drafts.
Like you, I couldn't wait for the 2018 champs to get up and running and even for the lack of MKing, they were mostly a good spectacle and plenty of players to have gotten excited about. Just didn't feel it this year and therefore didn't watch a lot at all.
Where would you have inserted Stocker into this draft, Terry?
I still think Young will move into the midfield at AFL level and with his kicking skills, marking and contested ability, he is going to be very good.
Ash, could easily rotate between the back flank and wing, another gun with his speed, kicking and game sense.
This draft is lacking tall forwards but have a number of handy defenders. They not exactly players you jump to get.
I think the Dockers scored big time with Henry, he is Walters with more speed in my eyes. He will pinch hit in the midfield and be dangerous around goals, love him as a prospect and would be perfect for Carlton in my eyes.
I think Jones may end up becoming the best hybrid forward from this draft class and he is projected to go in the mid 20's with many rating him even lower.
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What a sad thread this has become this year. No early picks to discuss.
I haven't followed the underage crop this year at all, but for the little I have seen, there just doesn't seem to be a lot to really get excited about.
Naturally, there will be quality players coming through, but given our situation and the likeliness of not taking Adelaides first to the draft, the interest has vastly diminished.
The question will arise elsewhere and not only on this board, but where would Stocker have slotted into this mix if he was involved?
Would like to hear someone like a Sheehan or even Twomey discuss this.
How far will Kemp drop after doing an ACL?
I personally would hate to use a top pick on a kid fresh of an ACL, too much risk. As Kemp can’t test and will miss next season, will it be enough for him to drop to the 2nd round?
Didn't hurt Max King too much.
Kemp is quality, and in a weak draft you'd have to think someone will roll the dice on him with a top 10 pick.