Preview Changes: GRAND FINAL

[mick500]

Apparently Cotchin cleared, but nothing official yet.

How hilarious yet expected would it be if Cotchin gets off but they find a way to rub out Sloane.

 

[CutAboveTheRest]

How hilarious yet expected would it be if Cotchin gets off but they find a way to rub out Sloane.

not one bit hilarious

 

[mick500]

not one bit hilarious

If you don't laugh you will cry. That's my thinking. But I can see them doing that to us is all.

 

[earlsta]

Mackay has actually been pretty decent for 6-8 odd weeks now surprisingly enough, been great to see.

that's the difference between normal people and people like ntrabbit.
Can't admit the truth really

 

[Kerleys Ghost]

Everyone cleared.

Good result, correct decision.

 

[Tex Danger]

The key to handling the dusty fend off is gang tackling. obviously not always possible but when he is fending off one someone else needs to be coming from the there side so that as he is bouncing off and turning away he is collected.

Our group pressure around the ball has been great all year in big games so this should come naturally and help

 

[Alwaysacrow]

I'm glad Cotchin got off, I didn't want any Tigers excuses when we win.

 

[CrowBloke]

...stick Greenwood on Martin and tell him to block and scrap him all day.

Apparently Greenwood doesn't have the engine to do this. Played 59% TOG on Friday and looked cooked in the last quarter. There's been a lot of debate in here about his aerobic fitness, or maybe some kind of niggly injury.

 

[CrowBloke]

If Cotchin gets off, we'll know the fix is on.

LOL
The fix is on.

 

[CrowBloke]

Grab it and yank it or twist it out of his shoulder socket.

Works for me. I'd like to see that.
(who are you irl? Tex, is that you? )

 

[CrowBloke]

My guess - all 3 will be cleared to play this week.

Prescient. Nailed it.

 

[CrowBloke]

The key to handling the dusty fend off is gang tackling.

I think this is the best idea and is consistent with something we do well.
(still love GreyCrow's idea, though )

 

[Tex Danger]

I think this is the best idea and is consistent with something we do well.
(still love GreyCrow's idea, though )

The only issue is dusty isn't a danger who tries to do it all, he's generally pretty good st giving it off when he needs. Still the group pressure will affect this

 

[SydCrow]

Apparently Greenwood doesn't have the engine to do this. Played 59% TOG on Friday and looked cooked in the last quarter. There's been a lot of debate in here about his aerobic fitness, or maybe some kind of niggly injury.

He has admitted he's not a great runner.

 

[CrowBloke]

I would go with sloane to tag Martin.
You know Sloane will be tagged. Try and get Sloane to break his tag by tagging Martin.

I'm not sure (because of oldness, lol@me) if Richmond tagged Sloane in Round 6, but it does seem likely for the GF.
In that case, getting Sloane to tag Martin as you suggest might work.

 

[Coops93]

The key to handling the dusty fend off is gang tackling. obviously not always possible but when he is fending off one someone else needs to be coming from the there side so that as he is bouncing off and turning away he is collected.

Our group pressure around the ball has been great all year in big games so this should come naturally and help

Also get lower and tackle the waste/thighs. The stiff arm works fantastic when you try to tackle the mid riff and arms as you can put the palm right into the sternum, but get lower and he has less power to shove you off. The downfall there is his arms are free and he can handball pretty easily. However I'd rather Martin hand it off then break a tackle and kick a goal/hit a target.

Focussing on gang tackling could be bad, committing 2 or 3 guys in a pack to one bloke leaves runners free everywhere.

 

[CrowBloke]

Cotchin will be buoyed and emboldened by his MRP let-off, plus he's played very well in their two finals. Houli is a dangerous one I'd be tagging as well. He runs all day and plays like Motlop for Geelong.

 

[CrowBloke]

Richmond's biggest problem is that they won't be able to tag all of Sloane, and the Crouch brothers, and Eddie, and Laird, and CC, and Mackay, and Ratkins ...
Also, our bottom 5-6 players are much better than theirs.

 

[Coops93]

Cotchin will be buoyed and emboldened by his MRP let-off, plus he's played very well in their two finals. Houli is a dangerous one I'd be tagging as well. He runs all day and plays like Motlop for Geelong.

Get Charlie on him and burn him the other way. Charlie will kick goals, Houli won't.

 

[CrowBloke]

Fwiw, Douglas has got a steady, calm head on his 200+-game shoulders, he's been playing solidly without starring, and he might see this as his last opportunity to be a Premiership player. He's due for a blinder and what better game than this week?
I'd love to see CC and Betts tear a few strips (stripes? ) off the Richmond backs as well.

 

[Geoffa32]

Apparently Greenwood doesn't have the engine to do this. Played 59% TOG on Friday and looked cooked in the last quarter. There's been a lot of debate in here about his aerobic fitness, or maybe some kind of niggly injury.

That is a good point

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[CrowBloke]

Statements like "it's the Crows flag to lose" are stupid

Yes!
Get this --- our local newspaper is The Advertiser.
Chief footy writer is a Port-Adelaide-loving (and therefore Crow-hating) zoob named Michelangelo Rucci (ironically pronounced Roo-chy) whose first headline after our PF was "Flag now formality" --- yep, without a question mark --- to enrage the Vics and mess with Crows' players heads.
(Wack this in your Google, to view:
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...g/news-story/bf09fc3f6e0d6950d1aa769e49d4c092)
Pyke's steady level-headedness has rubbed off on his team. My worry mid-season was that the Crows got ahead of themselves, became complacent and started playing we-should-win-this football, which is a losing mindset eg vs NM and the Dees.
Looking at their preparation and player management and their QF and PF wins, the Crows-of-2017 now want only to make it happen, at all costs, for each other.

 

[CrowBloke]

Get Charlie on him and burn him the other way. Charlie will kick goals, Houli won't.

Very good idea
(afterthought Edit: but I think Pyke will want CC to roam free and not have the restriction of running with any one player)

 

[CrowBloke]

Why dont we use the good old hip and shoulder on the lad instead of trying to tackle him?

I wish!
However, an effective hip-and-shoulder needs a good few metres run-up and an opponent who doesn't see it coming, generally. A blindside hip-n-shoulder is a beautiful thing unless you're on the receiving end. They're less frequent now because of the rule changes, too.
I'd love to see a Sloane-Paddykins-type collision, say Tex-Martin or Jenkins-Martin even Knight-Martin, with Martin stunned and slowed down afterwards.

 

[CrowBloke]

The downfall there is his arms are free and he can handball pretty easily. However I'd rather Martin hand it off then break a tackle and kick a goal/hit a target.

Yep, me too
I doubt that Martin can be totally nullified, but his effectiveness can be reduced, just as when Sloane gets tagged.